How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN

[Anonymous]

Also, frankly, closing schools throws women who work under the bus. I get that as mothers we are supposed to just say "I will endlessly martyr myself" but come on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

Maybe you missed OSSE’s definition of close contact. You should be advocating more than just saying it’s a fixation.

Close contact definition:
- clarified that this is only for K-12 students (not pre-K, adults or staff)
- Close contact if < 3 ft distance
- Close contact if share lunch room (b/c not all wearing masks)

Show me where in OSSE's guidance there is mention of close contacts and lunch.

It was on the Monday phone call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, frankly, closing schools throws women who work under the bus. I get that as mothers we are supposed to just say "I will endlessly martyr myself" but come on.

Yeah, I’ll take the hit so my kids don’t get a novel deadly disease.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

The default should be open. But If you would like your child IN SCHOOL for longer than a couple of weeks, people need to continue to advocating for outdoor lunch

No, sorry. I’m not fixating on whatever issue has floated to the top of your worry list based on random factors.

[Anonymous]

Stop blaming foster kids and homeless and make this about you as that is what it is about. We want our kids safe. Those kids are in foster care to keep them safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

The default should be open. But If you would like your child IN SCHOOL for longer than a couple of weeks, people need to continue to advocating for outdoor lunch

No, sorry. I’m not fixating on whatever issue has floated to the top of your worry list based on random factors.

https://twitter.com/wperkinsdc/status/1425508531957010440?s=21


Since you don’t care about much about lunch…good luck to you. Please make sure to remember you didn’t care when your kid is at home because of indoor lunch

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

Maybe you missed OSSE’s definition of close contact. You should be advocating more than just saying it’s a fixation.

Close contact definition:
- clarified that this is only for K-12 students (not pre-K, adults or staff)
- Close contact if < 3 ft distance
- Close contact if share lunch room (b/c not all wearing masks)

Show me where in OSSE's guidance there is mention of close contacts and lunch.

It was on the Monday phone call.

Yeah it's interesting that this issue about close contacts and lunch isn't in formal written guidance. I expect based on the swirling questions it will become so, but I would caution about running with some assumption that isn't clear.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Also, frankly, closing schools throws women who work under the bus. I get that as mothers we are supposed to just say "I will endlessly martyr myself" but come on.

Yeah, I’ll take the hit so my kids don’t get a novel deadly disease.

Here's your trophy.

[Anonymous]

Curious. Are there people here who are advocating for their own public DC schools to do all virtual in two weeks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year our child's Title 1 DCPS elementary did not open at all thanks to a small group of parents and teachers who claimed they were worried about kids. We have homeless kids at the school, kids in foster care and kids across the spectrum who would have been better off in school. But parents who wanted school to be in person had no voice in the matter. The most vocal parents keeping schools closed are high-income and have the means to pay for learning pods or stay at home with their kids. I am beyond outraged that they are attempting this coup for another year. Delta should raise everyone's vigilance, but with vaccines or weekly testing now mandated for all DC govt. staff, including all those who work at schools, there should not be any more roadblocks to safe in-person school for every child.

Here's an article by respected journalist and advocate Judd Legum that you can share in your communities to push back:

https://popular.info/p/how-to-keep-kids-in-school

You don’t push back. They are right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year our child's Title 1 DCPS elementary did not open at all thanks to a small group of parents and teachers who claimed they were worried about kids. We have homeless kids at the school, kids in foster care and kids across the spectrum who would have been better off in school. But parents who wanted school to be in person had no voice in the matter. The most vocal parents keeping schools closed are high-income and have the means to pay for learning pods or stay at home with their kids. I am beyond outraged that they are attempting this coup for another year. Delta should raise everyone's vigilance, but with vaccines or weekly testing now mandated for all DC govt. staff, including all those who work at schools, there should not be any more roadblocks to safe in-person school for every child.

Here's an article by respected journalist and advocate Judd Legum that you can share in your communities to push back:

https://popular.info/p/how-to-keep-kids-in-school

You don’t push back. They are right.

PP are you pushing for your DC public school to be fully virtual in two weeks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

The default should be open. But If you would like your child IN SCHOOL for longer than a couple of weeks, people need to continue to advocating for outdoor lunch

No, sorry. I’m not fixating on whatever issue has floated to the top of your worry list based on random factors.

Random factors being … science? Common sense?

[Anonymous]

OP, I would ask to see what happened to test scores of kids as a whole or see analysis of other relevant education assessments taken by the school. Particularly broken down by at-risk or not kids. I would ask whether the school had attendance issues last year in relation to prior years, and how those differ according to children's at-risk status. I would ask what the admin and teachers thought of the prior years' issues with children's engagement and emotional state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

The default should be open. But If you would like your child IN SCHOOL for longer than a couple of weeks, people need to continue to advocating for outdoor lunch

No, sorry. I’m not fixating on whatever issue has floated to the top of your worry list based on random factors.

Random factors being … science? Common sense?

random factors, hysteria, and “common sense” are what led to schools being closed for 18 months despite demonstrable safety.

[Anonymous]

Florida pediatric hospitalization figures are soaring
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/566536-flori...-pediatric-covid-19-cases-soar

"In our previous iteration of the pandemic, it was more they’re positive but they’re not sick or minimally sick,” he explained. “This is different. ... There’s a much higher percentage of pediatric patients becoming infected and symptomatic.”