How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN

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Anonymous wrote:It's odd to me that the pediatric hospitalizations are being touted as a reason to close schools since

1) school spread isn't leading to these cases (since the kids aren't in school), and
2) the thing that IS leading to these cases -- parents not being vaccinated -- is completely ignored.

It's like the drive should be squarely aimed at parental vaccinations, but instead we throw up our hands and say "oh obviously anti-vaxxers gonna be anti-vaxxers, so let's just destroy all kids' education instead."

exactly

Sometimes you need to advocate for fire retardants and sometimes you need to advocate for fire extinguishing.
Right now there are fires to put out. DCPS starts in 2 weeks, and there is a raging covid fire. We are an area of high covid transmission of a very high transmission variant, the school-age population is either unvacc'ed or undervacc'ed, and we've been told there will be fewer mitigation measures than last year.

Yes, let's vaccinate adults, but no, I don't think we should ignore the skyrocketing pediatric hospitalizations, and I don't think we should throw up our hands and say "oh, covid's gonna covid and let's just let all kids get it anyway at the same time."

Pediatric hospitalizations aren’t skyrocketing in this area, despite kids having been in camps all summer.

That’s nice. Most camps have been largely or completely outdoors, and the indoors camps have taken more mitigation measures than schools plan to.

I see that you’re desperately hoping for a huge wave of pediatric covid hospitalizations to materialize, and you keep throwing out excuse after excuse for why it hasn’t happened yet but is definitely imminent any second now. It’s not going to happen, and you need to find a new target fixation for your uncontrolled anxiety.

[Anonymous]

Then stop pushing back on mask wearing. Vaccines, testing. We wouldn't be in this position if not for the mindless politicizing of this virus. Work to end the virus, not to stamp back responsible parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then stop pushing back on mask wearing. Vaccines, testing. We wouldn't be in this position if not for the mindless politicizing of this virus. Work to end the virus, not to stamp back responsible parents.

Well hello strawman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's odd to me that the pediatric hospitalizations are being touted as a reason to close schools since

1) school spread isn't leading to these cases (since the kids aren't in school), and
2) the thing that IS leading to these cases -- parents not being vaccinated -- is completely ignored.

It's like the drive should be squarely aimed at parental vaccinations, but instead we throw up our hands and say "oh obviously anti-vaxxers gonna be anti-vaxxers, so let's just destroy all kids' education instead."

exactly

Sometimes you need to advocate for fire retardants and sometimes you need to advocate for fire extinguishing.
Right now there are fires to put out. DCPS starts in 2 weeks, and there is a raging covid fire. We are an area of high covid transmission of a very high transmission variant, the school-age population is either unvacc'ed or undervacc'ed, and we've been told there will be fewer mitigation measures than last year.

Yes, let's vaccinate adults, but no, I don't think we should ignore the skyrocketing pediatric hospitalizations, and I don't think we should throw up our hands and say "oh, covid's gonna covid and let's just let all kids get it anyway at the same time."

Pediatric hospitalizations aren’t skyrocketing in this area, despite kids having been in camps all summer.

That’s nice. Most camps have been largely or completely outdoors, and the indoors camps have taken more mitigation measures than schools plan to.

I see that you’re desperately hoping for a huge wave of pediatric covid hospitalizations to materialize, and you keep throwing out excuse after excuse for why it hasn’t happened yet but is definitely imminent any second now. It’s not going to happen, and you need to find a new target fixation for your uncontrolled anxiety.

I’m immediate PP, but not the earlier PP.

You make spurious arguments then claim others have dramatic motives? There was no significant spread during the first half of the summer, and now no “wishes” are need to expect a wave. It’s the likely forecast based on the data.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/coronavirus-us-cases-deaths/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's odd to me that the pediatric hospitalizations are being touted as a reason to close schools since

1) school spread isn't leading to these cases (since the kids aren't in school), and
2) the thing that IS leading to these cases -- parents not being vaccinated -- is completely ignored.

It's like the drive should be squarely aimed at parental vaccinations, but instead we throw up our hands and say "oh obviously anti-vaxxers gonna be anti-vaxxers, so let's just destroy all kids' education instead."

exactly

Sometimes you need to advocate for fire retardants and sometimes you need to advocate for fire extinguishing.
Right now there are fires to put out. DCPS starts in 2 weeks, and there is a raging covid fire. We are an area of high covid transmission of a very high transmission variant, the school-age population is either unvacc'ed or undervacc'ed, and we've been told there will be fewer mitigation measures than last year.

Yes, let's vaccinate adults, but no, I don't think we should ignore the skyrocketing pediatric hospitalizations, and I don't think we should throw up our hands and say "oh, covid's gonna covid and let's just let all kids get it anyway at the same time."

Pediatric hospitalizations aren’t skyrocketing in this area, despite kids having been in camps all summer.

That’s nice. Most camps have been largely or completely outdoors, and the indoors camps have taken more mitigation measures than schools plan to.

I see that you’re desperately hoping for a huge wave of pediatric covid hospitalizations to materialize, and you keep throwing out excuse after excuse for why it hasn’t happened yet but is definitely imminent any second now. It’s not going to happen, and you need to find a new target fixation for your uncontrolled anxiety.

Well hello gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

In so many ways, faux concern can be even more dangerous because you end up advocating for things that YOU think are better for "poor and underprivileged children," instead of what the community actually wants and needs. Unless that is the point and you definitely know better - that's always a good look /s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

In so many ways, faux concern can be even more dangerous because you end up advocating for things that YOU think are better for "poor and underprivileged children," instead of what the community actually wants and needs. Unless that is the point and you definitely know better - that's always a good look /s

All the families with FARMS kids I know (which is many, our school is 90% FARMS) want schools open 5 days a week and as normal a school year as their kids can get.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

In so many ways, faux concern can be even more dangerous because you end up advocating for things that YOU think are better for "poor and underprivileged children," instead of what the community actually wants and needs. Unless that is the point and you definitely know better - that's always a good look /s

I mean, the people that are pushing for a virtual option at every school (see those other threads) are literally saying to take away money currently going to homeless shelters for families in order to fund the virtual options. So.....they don't seem to have the best interest of the neediest kids in mind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

In so many ways, faux concern can be even more dangerous because you end up advocating for things that YOU think are better for "poor and underprivileged children," instead of what the community actually wants and needs. Unless that is the point and you definitely know better - that's always a good look /s

I mean, the people that are pushing for a virtual option at every school (see those other threads) are literally saying to take away money currently going to homeless shelters for families in order to fund the virtual options. So.....they don't seem to have the best interest of the neediest kids in mind.

The messed up part is that they'll argue that using the shelter funds for virtual schools is somehow EQUITY because then these homeless kids could have the option to do virtual! Out of their homes...oh...wait...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then stop pushing back on mask wearing. Vaccines, testing. We wouldn't be in this position if not for the mindless politicizing of this virus. Work to end the virus, not to stamp back responsible parents.

Masks are great. You do realize they just give folks an out on getting vaccines, right? That is the ancillary effect. Sorry. We need to have a conversation about what health risks are driving folks - younger ones -into hospitals. Nobody wants to say it / but obesity is a huge problem in this country. And 70% of people hospitalized with Covid are obese.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then stop pushing back on mask wearing. Vaccines, testing. We wouldn't be in this position if not for the mindless politicizing of this virus. Work to end the virus, not to stamp back responsible parents.

Masks are great. You do realize they just give folks an out on getting vaccines, right? That is the ancillary effect. Sorry. We need to have a conversation about what health risks are driving folks - younger ones -into hospitals. Nobody wants to say it / but obesity is a huge problem in this country. And 70% of people hospitalized with Covid are obese.

uh what? i think you are in the wrong place

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plus a million. Closing schools was and is distratous for poor and underprivileged children particularly (it is for everyone, but at least wealthy people can mitigate somewhat).

I want schools to be open 5 days per week as well. But please stop with the faux concern for the poor and underprivileged bc it’s trendy. I bet you’re one of those with the Black Lives Matter sign in your yard.

I prefer faux concern to actual lack of concern.

In so many ways, faux concern can be even more dangerous because you end up advocating for things that YOU think are better for "poor and underprivileged children," instead of what the community actually wants and needs. Unless that is the point and you definitely know better - that's always a good look /s

All the families with FARMS kids I know (which is many, our school is 90% FARMS) want schools open 5 days a week and as normal a school year as their kids can get.

Yes, same here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last year our child's Title 1 DCPS elementary did not open at all thanks to a small group of parents and teachers who claimed they were worried about kids. We have homeless kids at the school, kids in foster care and kids across the spectrum who would have been better off in school. But parents who wanted school to be in person had no voice in the matter. The most vocal parents keeping schools closed are high-income and have the means to pay for learning pods or stay at home with their kids. I am beyond outraged that they are attempting this coup for another year. Delta should raise everyone's vigilance, but with vaccines or weekly testing now mandated for all DC govt. staff, including all those who work at schools, there should not be any more roadblocks to safe in-person school for every child.

Here's an article by respected journalist and advocate Judd Legum that you can share in your communities to push back:

https://popular.info/p/how-to-keep-kids-in-school

I could be wrong, but I thought the DCPS survey actually showed the opposite. That it was actually trending towards lower income parents wanting schools closed last year and higher income parents wanting schools open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year our child's Title 1 DCPS elementary did not open at all thanks to a small group of parents and teachers who claimed they were worried about kids. We have homeless kids at the school, kids in foster care and kids across the spectrum who would have been better off in school. But parents who wanted school to be in person had no voice in the matter. The most vocal parents keeping schools closed are high-income and have the means to pay for learning pods or stay at home with their kids. I am beyond outraged that they are attempting this coup for another year. Delta should raise everyone's vigilance, but with vaccines or weekly testing now mandated for all DC govt. staff, including all those who work at schools, there should not be any more roadblocks to safe in-person school for every child.

Here's an article by respected journalist and advocate Judd Legum that you can share in your communities to push back:

https://popular.info/p/how-to-keep-kids-in-school

I could be wrong, but I thought the DCPS survey actually showed the opposite. That it was actually trending towards lower income parents wanting schools closed last year and higher income parents wanting schools open.

Key words: last year.