How to push back against people who want to close schools AGAIN

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?

Cleveland!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?

Cleveland!

Well, I hid the Facebook post so I dunno, but it seems like just Becky being Becky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can you name your school?

Cleveland!

Well, I hid the Facebook post so I dunno, but it seems like just Becky being Becky.

It seems like Cleveland did open since they sent notification that a cohort had to quarantine? https://45biv636w8lm1agg3ozqtqg1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/2021.03.30_ClevelandES_Community_Notification.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
No one wants schools closed.


We want to keep schools open at all costs, and to that end, we want:

1. Updated information from schools and workplaces regarding masking, type of masks allowed, vaccine requirements, distancing, opening windows, outdoor lunch, etc.

2. Contingency planning when students or staff are positive. Information on contact tracing, quarantines, etc.


As much as we don't want to have to think about it, we recognize that the devil is in the details, and we need to be extremely careful how we implement which precautions, because Delta can infect unmasked individuals in a few minutes. Cloth masks are not very protective. Under 12s are not vaccinated. We need to increase all our precautions otherwise schools will close.


If you don't want to help plan, get out of the way, otherwise it will be YOUR fault that schools close.

if you’re proposing to hold schools hostage until you get all that information, then you’re exactly who OP is talking about. because of course, you’ll move the goalposts once you get whatever information you’re demanding.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

I would SO take a virtual year at this point. It's not ideal. but its safest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find it outrageous that we are thinking of putting students in close proximity indoors while eating lunch. So no, not on your side here at all.

Same. This is absolutely ridiculous. We should all be pressuring schools to find other options so we have a prayer of safely reopening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

+1. In the fall, lots of areas are going to have open schools, and they are going to do it largely without those things.

In DC, we are also largely not going to have those things. We can not have those things and be open or we can not have those things and be closed. If you only support schools being open with some preconditions that are not going to be met here and also not going to be met in a lot of places where schools will be open, then you don't support schools being open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

The default should be open. But If you would like your child IN SCHOOL for longer than a couple of weeks, people need to continue to advocating for outdoor lunch

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

Maybe you missed OSSE’s definition of close contact. You should be advocating more than just saying it’s a fixation.

Close contact definition:
- clarified that this is only for K-12 students (not pre-K, adults or staff)
- Close contact if < 3 ft distance
- Close contact if share lunch room (b/c not all wearing masks)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

See, that's why we can't have a rational discussion. If you deny other people's needs and push for the one and only solution that works for you, you're selfish and shortsighted.

We all want schools to open. There isn't one parent on the face of this earth who wants schools closed. Indeed, a lot of parents are concerned that schools are not making the maximum effort to STAY open! If you want open, you're going to have to push for outdoor lunches and quality disposable masks. Schools can and should invest in outdoor lunch spaces, bulk buy KF94s, be more rigorous in their staff's attention to Covid precautions. But they're not, and this will cause major disruption in the fall, because Delta will spread and classes will have to go into quarantine. Therefore, mature people are calling for contingency planning, such as preparing virtual schooling options for those who don't wish to subject their families to continual disruption. Year-long virtual AND ad hoc virtual when a class needs to quarantine for 2 weeks.

All this has to be prepared in advance. I am sure families will use at least one of these options in the coming year. Having multiple back-up plans is how we will keep kids educated NO MATTER WHAT.

nope, nope nope. the default is open schools. I don’t have to advocate for a lunch tent or whatever your fixation du juor is.

Maybe you missed OSSE’s definition of close contact. You should be advocating more than just saying it’s a fixation.

Close contact definition:
- clarified that this is only for K-12 students (not pre-K, adults or staff)
- Close contact if < 3 ft distance
- Close contact if share lunch room (b/c not all wearing masks)

Show me where in OSSE's guidance there is mention of close contacts and lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not about pushing back against people who don't agree with what you want.
It's about making the wisest choice for the greatest number of people. Decisions must change as circumstances do.

FYI My school is offering in person AND virtual and I think that's the way to go.

No. You’re setting up a solution that will work for some rich kids snd punish everyone else.

Thank you. I was abandoned last year with small children (one with special needs) and no childcare. It is not reasonable or equitable to close public schools.

[Anonymous]

I'm personally happy that my charter will be cohorted by class, will have lunch outside when weather permits, and has enough space that kids can distance during lunch.