College Recruiting - Girls 22s and 23?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone willing to share insights about how things are going for 22 and 23 girls, especially after summer ID camps? It looks like recruiting is waning for D1-focused 22s and picking up for 23s, but you know how people are cagey about this stuff until there’s actually a verbal commitment. Hoping that anonymity is helpful in getting some useful info here.

Depends what level of of play within D1 you are looking at. On the girls side, most of your power 5 schools have been done with 2022s. Your top power 5 schools like UNC, UVA, FSU, etc. are basically done with their 2023 class too. Committments from 2023s have picked up recently, so expect a wave of committments over the next couple months. As is the case every year, the tier that includes CAA and A10 schools will see a wave of comittments after spots on power 5 rosters start evaporating. There number of players transferrring is at an all time high, so not sure how big an impact this is having on recruiting.

Very informative

This is not accurate at all. Power 5 (although a less relevant category for soccer) schools are not basically done with 23s. On the girls side, most top soccer programs are wrapping up 22s and the academic/ivy schools are just now solidifying their commitments. For the boys the 22s have really just started to get offers and make commitments, but that process will continue through the fall. For the girls 23s, you’ll see an early wave of commitments for a small set of players now, the bulk will come in late winter/spring after the fall college season and the winter ID camps. For the boys, only the exceptional player that is choosing college over pros will be making any sort of commitment. The 23s should focus on their target schools and have honest discussions with the college coaches about feasibility. The 22s may need to look at programs that they had not originally considered, still lots of options out there…

DD's club has completely underprepared DD for college. Reading these posts can be so upsetting

Most clubs don't help much at all. It is up to the players (families) to figure out their own journey.

If this is the case, then why do we as parents chase the soccer clubs when our children are 9 yo if we're going to have e to carve out our own path anyway?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone willing to share insights about how things are going for 22 and 23 girls, especially after summer ID camps? It looks like recruiting is waning for D1-focused 22s and picking up for 23s, but you know how people are cagey about this stuff until there’s actually a verbal commitment. Hoping that anonymity is helpful in getting some useful info here.

Depends what level of of play within D1 you are looking at. On the girls side, most of your power 5 schools have been done with 2022s. Your top power 5 schools like UNC, UVA, FSU, etc. are basically done with their 2023 class too. Committments from 2023s have picked up recently, so expect a wave of committments over the next couple months. As is the case every year, the tier that includes CAA and A10 schools will see a wave of comittments after spots on power 5 rosters start evaporating. There number of players transferrring is at an all time high, so not sure how big an impact this is having on recruiting.

Very informative

This is not accurate at all. Power 5 (although a less relevant category for soccer) schools are not basically done with 23s. On the girls side, most top soccer programs are wrapping up 22s and the academic/ivy schools are just now solidifying their commitments. For the boys the 22s have really just started to get offers and make commitments, but that process will continue through the fall. For the girls 23s, you’ll see an early wave of commitments for a small set of players now, the bulk will come in late winter/spring after the fall college season and the winter ID camps. For the boys, only the exceptional player that is choosing college over pros will be making any sort of commitment. The 23s should focus on their target schools and have honest discussions with the college coaches about feasibility. The 22s may need to look at programs that they had not originally considered, still lots of options out there…

DD's club has completely underprepared DD for college. Reading these posts can be so upsetting

Most clubs don't help much at all. It is up to the players (families) to figure out their own journey.

If this is the case, then why do we as parents chase the soccer clubs when our children are 9 yo if we're going to have e to carve out our own path anyway?

Fear of missing out - FOMO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Show me the money. I don’t care about the who, what, when or where. For me, a parent of several children, college is seen as a family sacrifice. I have an athlete with several offers. And let me tell you, once you crunch the numbers, not all offers are the same.

For example, a 60 percent scholarship at an in-state may make the cost to obtain a degree 48,000. The same percent scholarship for an out of state makes the cost to obtain a degree 87,000.

If you take out a loan and pay it off in 4 years before interest kicks in, you will pay 800 dollars a Month more for the out of state school…..for the next four years. To me, the decision is easy. Save 800 a month for the other kids.

And for those of you who are not aware, starting in 2023, you will no longer get a financial break for having multiple kids in college at the same time.

Many of you posting haven’t crunched the numbers. You should do it. A sense of reality will set in. It will narrow down choices expeditiously.

For those with deep pockets, go ahead and chase that Power 5 dream. Be prepared to walk on or take a 25 percent.

Remember, some very good players take the money over the prestige of the program. Very very few players can pull off the big scholarships at big schools.

And yes, need based money and academic scholarships are there. Lots of thing to consider. But remember, people in the DMV have high salaries because of cost of living….and the calculations don’t take into account where you live. We all know that 100,000 in DC is not the same as 100,000 in Utah….but they don’t care. The vast majority of you will not be getting need based money.

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The majority of people on this board were not looking for need based money. ✌🏼

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Show me the money. I don’t care about the who, what, when or where. For me, a parent of several children, college is seen as a family sacrifice. I have an athlete with several offers. And let me tell you, once you crunch the numbers, not all offers are the same.

For example, a 60 percent scholarship at an in-state may make the cost to obtain a degree 48,000. The same percent scholarship for an out of state makes the cost to obtain a degree 87,000.

If you take out a loan and pay it off in 4 years before interest kicks in, you will pay 800 dollars a Month more for the out of state school…..for the next four years. To me, the decision is easy. Save 800 a month for the other kids.

And for those of you who are not aware, starting in 2023, you will no longer get a financial break for having multiple kids in college at the same time.

Many of you posting haven’t crunched the numbers. You should do it. A sense of reality will set in. It will narrow down choices expeditiously.

For those with deep pockets, go ahead and chase that Power 5 dream. Be prepared to walk on or take a 25 percent.

Remember, some very good players take the money over the prestige of the program. Very very few players can pull off the big scholarships at big schools.

And yes, need based money and academic scholarships are there. Lots of thing to consider. But remember, people in the DMV have high salaries because of cost of living….and the calculations don’t take into account where you live. We all know that 100,000 in DC is not the same as 100,000 in Utah….but they don’t care. The vast majority of you will not be getting need based money.

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The majority of people on this board were not looking for need based money. ✌🏼

Well then the majority on the board can go pay 150,000 for a degree.
High level soccer will cost about 50,000 from beginning to end. If your player is not recouping that on athletic scholarship then they are shooting to high.

A good player can walk on or get a 25 percent at a big time program. Same player can increase scholarship to 50-80 percent by aiming lower.. This is why I laugh 😂 when I read comments about how average a player is when they commit to a mid-tier or below program but praising those with walk on status at a big program.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Show me the money. I don’t care about the who, what, when or where. For me, a parent of several children, college is seen as a family sacrifice. I have an athlete with several offers. And let me tell you, once you crunch the numbers, not all offers are the same.

For example, a 60 percent scholarship at an in-state may make the cost to obtain a degree 48,000. The same percent scholarship for an out of state makes the cost to obtain a degree 87,000.

If you take out a loan and pay it off in 4 years before interest kicks in, you will pay 800 dollars a Month more for the out of state school…..for the next four years. To me, the decision is easy. Save 800 a month for the other kids.

And for those of you who are not aware, starting in 2023, you will no longer get a financial break for having multiple kids in college at the same time.

Many of you posting haven’t crunched the numbers. You should do it. A sense of reality will set in. It will narrow down choices expeditiously.

For those with deep pockets, go ahead and chase that Power 5 dream. Be prepared to walk on or take a 25 percent.

Remember, some very good players take the money over the prestige of the program. Very very few players can pull off the big scholarships at big schools.

And yes, need based money and academic scholarships are there. Lots of thing to consider. But remember, people in the DMV have high salaries because of cost of living….and the calculations don’t take into account where you live. We all know that 100,000 in DC is not the same as 100,000 in Utah….but they don’t care. The vast majority of you will not be getting need based money.

✌️

The majority of people on this board were not looking for need based money. ✌🏼

Well then the majority on the board can go pay 150,000 for a degree.
High level soccer will cost about 50,000 from beginning to end. If your player is not recouping that on athletic scholarship then they are shooting to high.

A good player can walk on or get a 25 percent at a big time program. Same player can increase scholarship to 50-80 percent by aiming lower.. This is why I laugh 😂 when I read comments about how average a player is when they commit to a mid-tier or below program but praising those with walk on status at a big program.

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Can you break out your $50k figure? I don't get anywhere near $50k from U9 to U17. I'm also including travel, gas, uniforms, additional summer and winter training.

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Forget about u9. You will spend tens of thousands just on the 5 or 6 years of ecnl. This league is not for families without a lot of disposable income. The fees and uniforms may be only 3k but the real cost is in the travel burden.

[Anonymous]

Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

Ok but how rich are you? If all the costs are nothing to you, then why would you care? Buy them pricey soccer and camp and family vactions, etc. For some games it is nothing and for some it is a sacrifice and difficult.

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For some families*...

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

Ok but how rich are you? If all the costs are nothing to you, then why would you care? Buy them pricey soccer and camp and family vactions, etc. For some games it is nothing and for some it is a sacrifice and difficult.

Ok, but as far as investments go you’d be better off putting the 50k into a 529 plan and letting it grow over 18 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

No.

No one thinks that way at U9. They start thinking that way at U15-16. Then at U17 they start reflecting when crunching the numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

Ok but how rich are you? If all the costs are nothing to you, then why would you care? Buy them pricey soccer and camp and family vactions, etc. For some games it is nothing and for some it is a sacrifice and difficult.

Ok, but as far as investments go you’d be better off putting the 50k into a 529 plan and letting it grow over 18 years.

529 plans are awful and will not yield the return a 60- 80 percent scholarship will

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

Ok but how rich are you? If all the costs are nothing to you, then why would you care? Buy them pricey soccer and camp and family vactions, etc. For some games it is nothing and for some it is a sacrifice and difficult.

Ok, but as far as investments go you’d be better off putting the 50k into a 529 plan and letting it grow over 18 years.

Ok but playing soccer is a blast. Why do you think it is popular? The youth soccer industry is doing everything they can to suck the fun out of the sport and yet the kids still want to play because it is really fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Do people really consider money spent on u9-u17 soccer as an investment to be recouped by college scholarships? I never considered the money an investment. Just an activity that my kids enjoyed doing. Like sleep away camps and family vacations. I don’t expect my kids will play in college. Is scholarship money the reason for playing soccer?

Ok but how rich are you? If all the costs are nothing to you, then why would you care? Buy them pricey soccer and camp and family vactions, etc. For some games it is nothing and for some it is a sacrifice and difficult.

Ok, but as far as investments go you’d be better off putting the 50k into a 529 plan and letting it grow over 18 years.

Ok but playing soccer is a blast. Why do you think it is popular? The youth soccer industry is doing everything they can to suck the fun out of the sport and yet the kids still want to play because it is really fun.

This is not what the thread is about. It’s about 2022 and 2023 recruiting

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I did not ask the question about why not just let you player open statements form an investment account every month instead of participating in a sport...I just gave and answer to it.

You can do the same Karen. Let's hear your opinion about soccer and recruiting and why do it instead of your opinion about what comments are and are not permissible in this thread.