No one is saying Mary is not also an Irish Catholic thing (I have multiples in the family). But Mary + mom's maiden name/family name is very much a Southern thing. Hell, all the ones I know were Chi Os at Ole Miss, to further stereotype. |
"You are obviously not from the south" PP (not OP) is citing "Mary Katherine" and "Mary Grace" as typically Southern names, not Mary + mom's maiden name. Those are Catholic names, not Southern. Irish Catholic communities are strongly associated with northeastern and Rust Belt areas, not the South. OP's example of Mary Campbell is more southern, as I said in the post you're replying to, but Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not "Southern" names. |
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Southerners consider Texas to be Texas - not the South. The accent sounds Texan to them not Southern.
Mary is traditionally used in the South as part of double names by Protestants - it is not considered a Catholic name by Southern Protestants (although, of course, Southern Catholics use it as well). |
Mary Grace and Mary Katherine are not, but that PP also included an Anna + name as an example. And while Mary Katherine is certainly a Catholic name, I know a half dozen double-named women from the South for every Catholic one I know from elsewhere. In my experience, it's far more commonly done there, and I think that was her point. |
All double-barreled names are not the same, which is the theme of this subthread. Mary Campbell is qualitatively different from Mary Katherine. OP holding up Mary Campbell as a Southern name was correct; PP saying Mary Katherine is Southern not so much. Anna Elizabeth reads southern; Mary Elizabeth reads Catholic. Double-barreled for the sake of double-barreled is Southern. Double-barreled Saints' names/graces, particularly with Mary as the first, is Catholic. You seem to recognize the difference in some posts but then elide it in others. |
This! Mary is a southern and also worldwide classic name. |
This! |
Love name Mary Jane. |
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I agree that names like Mary Elizabeth are used by Catholics, but they are also used by Southern Protestants. Even Mary Margaret (a classic Catholic name) has traditionally been used in the South by Protestants as well. I strongly suspect some of these experts commenting on this thread haven’t spent much time in the South (sorry - soap operas about Dallas don’t count).
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Ding ding ding. It's clear who the real southerners on this thread are. 1. Texas ain't the south 2. Mary is an extremely southern name 3. The names OP listed are as posh as they come. If you think rich southerners are naming their kid "Jayden" you've never met a rich southerner 4. Example names: Wilkes, Wright, Carter, Banks, Hutton, Mary James, Anna Lee, Willingham, Palmer etc etc |
So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what? |
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So are the Southern protestant Mary Graces supposed to convert to Catholicism in order to be correct in this worldview, or what? Ha ha yes! I know many nonCatholic Southerners named Mary Grace! |
My guess is PP thinks Florida is the South and doesn't actually know anyone from the South outside of Gone with the Wind. |
Nope I'm an actual Catholic who grew up in the South (though not Deep South, thank g-d). |
Uh huh. Alexandria? |