Unpopular Opinion: Posh Southern Named are very cute

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP on some level I agree with you, as a cute kid with a mouthful of a name always delights me.

However, as someone born in the US, some of those names will always have the whiff of the Confederacy to me. White Southern culture in the US can be hard to stomach at times. I think about little Campbell and Gentry getting married on a plantation, going to Atlanta Braves games and doing the “Tomahawk Chop”, and perpetuating a history of Southern gentility that is inescapably rooted in slavery. It takes the blush of the rose a bit.

I wonder if Northerners know they view the south like the UK views America?

As the epitome of racism while absolutely obvious to the deep rooted racism in their own soil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In the book "The help" which takes place in Mississippi, one of the (white) characters has a toddler daughter named "Mae Mobely."
What the heck kind of name is Mobely?

Sigh, it’s a very common southern surname. In both black and white southern families.

Just because you aren’t familiar with it, doesn’t give you permission to mock it. I did the same thing when I was an ignorant 18 year old who encountered common Jewish surnames in college. You aren’t being clever, you just aren’t familiar with what is a very common name in a culture you don’t know.

I don't need "permission" to have an opinion. I've never met a Jewish person that uses a surname as a first name, and if you consider that character to be "clever" I will gladly accept that I do not meet your definition of "clever."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the Mary + family name Mary’s I know are from South Carolina and Georgia.

No one is disagreeing that Mary Surname Surname is Southern. It was the person citing Mary Katherine/Mary Grace as quintessentially Southern names that took the thread off the rails.

[Anonymous]

Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

Texas may consider Texas the south but those of us in South Carolina don't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

https://graceandjameskids.com/pages/about-us

LOL at their website "About Us" mentioning that the founders were Delta Gammas at Ole Miss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

Texas may consider Texas the south but those of us in South Carolina don't.

No one cares what S. Carolinians think. The entire state is less than 6 million people.

[Anonymous]

I'm from the South and considered Texas just "Texas." They weren't the South. I think that's changed a bit now with Texas A&M in the SEC. A lot of people go by the states in the SEC conference when they're discussing the south.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

https://graceandjameskids.com/pages/about-us

I’ll file that as “still a no”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

https://graceandjameskids.com/pages/about-us

I’ll file that as “still a no”.

Is there a particular reason you're discounting the examples people are giving you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

Texas may consider Texas the south but those of us in South Carolina don't.

I don't consider South Carolina the south - I grew up going to Hilton Head and it's east coast to me. Maybe west SC? I do of course consider Texas the south.

But +1 to the earlier PP about this being so silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

Texas may consider Texas the south but those of us in South Carolina don't.

I don't consider South Carolina the south - I grew up going to Hilton Head and it's east coast to me. Maybe west SC? I do of course consider Texas the south.

But +1 to the earlier PP about this being so silly.

You don't consider Hilton Head SC The South. Uh. Whut.
Google Fort Sumter then come back and tell me if coastal SC is the South.
And just because you went to a tourist destination/resort doesn't mean you understand a place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can somebody name an actual southern woman named Mary? A real person.

Not famous people and I won’t give last names b/c don’t have permission, but here are two of many from my world. Both were Presbyterians.

Mary Virginia - a woman who mentored me as well as my husband when we were in our twenties and thirties. I won’t say in what capacity she mentored us as that might give her identity away (although she is only well known in a very narrow area).

Mary Grace - a rugby playing student at Agnes Scott College, a surprising hotbed of Southern lesbians. This was quite a few years ago.

So your answer is no.

NP- one of the women who started this very popular smocked clothing company is names MARY AGNES. They are from Mississippi. Why don't you call em up and ask if they're Catholic.

https://graceandjameskids.com/pages/about-us

I’ll file that as “still a no”.

How do you file the fact that Alabama and Mississippi are the only two states in which Mary was in the top 10 baby names last year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NP. Do women with “double barreled” names get called by both names in every day conversation? Even in professional settings?

What kind of insensitive question is this? If a woman had a hyphenated surname you wouldn’t ask if she “goes by both.” Use the name people prefer you to use and don’t be a dick about it.

No, not everyone with a double barreled name uses both. My MIL is Mary Pamela and goes just by Pam. It’s not a stupid question.

+1

- daughter of Mary Monica who just goes by Monica

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woof.

As someone who was born and raised in Dallas this thread was... entertaining.

1.The names OP listed are very Dallas. Dallas is very Catholic, especially in wealthy neighborhoods like University Park or Highland Park. There are dozens of exclusive private Catholic schools in the areas (and Preston Hollow).

Names I hear in Dallas;
- A lot of mothers maiden for boys (and some girls). Alder, Banks, Campbell, Daugherty, Ellis, Farrell, Wellington, etc along with traditional names like William, Henry, John or Jack.
- Surnames for girls are popular as well. Unisex names or masculine names paired with Roman Catholic names like Mary or Elizabeth. Yep. I know George Elizabeth who went by Georgie Elizabeth. Never Georgie or Elizabeth. Mary is common, Mary Claire or Mary Kyle. Sometimes girls will take on Grandmothers name paired with dads middle name.

Then of course you’ll have tons of Olivias and Liams as well.

2. Dallas is completely different from rural Texas. Names are different and culture is different. Rural Texas (I can speak for East Texas) is definitely southern culture. Lots of Paisley/Pazleighs or Braxtons or Zaydens or Oakland or Kinsleys. You get it.

3. Texas is absolutely the south. Any Texan east of 35 will tell you Texas is the south. It’s odd to me when folks from New England will argue with me that it’s not. East Texas is regionally, geographically, religiously, politically, culturally southern. I’d argue that West Texas is the Southwest and that East Texas is the Deep South. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio and Houston are just their own cities that are deeply different from one another. El Paso, sure, Southwest. Tyler, Texas? The south. Deeply southern.

But also yes, Texans also just see Texas as Texas.

This is also the silliest argument I’ve ever seen. Texas is massive and full of many many many cultures.

Texas may consider Texas the south but those of us in South Carolina don't.

We don’t consider y’all to be the south either, really. East Coaster, sure. Southern light I guess. What on earth do you consider Texas outside itself? Southwest? The majority of Texas is so drastically different from New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado etc... is Oklahoma the South? But the state
Below it isn’t?