| It’s not the ADHD; men are sort of useless and can’t multitask. Lower the expectations and give him bigger projects he can handle alone while not watching the kids. Why do people force their husbands to do what they do? I just assign mine all the stuff I don’t want to do. He doesn’t even realize what’s going on. Women are smarter-use your intelligence to run an efficient household. |
I'm a DH with ADHD and the only problem I have with some of this is that it is kinda limiting. Like you said with Laundry, I have to develop "systems" to keep myself on track so I can watch the kids while cooking or washing dishes or sweeping the floor. Its been a trial and error thing and I've made my share of mistakes and been distracted a lot, but I have something now that I think works for me, at least at this phase of their lives. One thing you said is that we CANNOT ignore the "mama look" comments. One thing is that I don't necessarily want to ignore those comments because it could be something drastic. Just like I have to remember to look up from doing the dishes to make sure that the kids don't hurt themselves when they're running across the living room and jumping off couches. Part of my system is keeping my body active so I'm not just doing dishes. It may be just some mini jumping jacks, or maybe I'll wash a few dishes and do a lap around the kitchen. But the challenges from ADHD come when I'm busy thinking about say this comment, or something that had my interest at work or a puzzle I was doing earlier or a thousand other things that are more interesting than the dishes. Doing the laps helps me to not think about this stuff, so I think it has helped me to do better around the house. Now, I'm not asking you to get a report from my wife on this because I'm sure I'm not perfect on chores yet, but I think I am getting better since DW and I had a conversation about my being distracted. So I think it can be improved. I'm not saying that my method works for everybody or even anybody other than me, but seeing that I'm getting better and reading your comment starts to put doubt into my mind - maybe I'm not understanding the situation, maybe I'm not doing well, maybe ADHD wasn't what was distracting me, maybe I can't get better. I don't know. But just thought I'd share. |
Nanny again. This is exactly the type of thing I do with kids, and it's the type of things I've done with parents who need/want help. It doesn't have to be physical. It can mean needing the other adult in the room for the first several (months) so that you can run into the other room, breathe, regroup and come back. It can mean doing the chore over and over and over again without children present so that it's completely mindless, then you can focus your mind on children while your hands do something else. ADHD does NOT have to limit you, your child or your partner unless you let it do that. There are pros and cons to everything, including ADHD. |
| I’m a mom who stayed at home, and I struggled with those tasks |
PP here. Just want to say thank you for saying this. It just helps to know there are other folks out there who understand what it's like to be NT with an ADHD spouse. |
without having a husband with ADHD, this would be my answer. I mean, I mowed the grass ONCE. he was ill and just couldn't do it. That was enough - he does it or it doesn't get done. but I do the laundry 95% of the time, so that evens out. And in your case he will do both things, just not at once. Which means that later, when kids are in bed, he folds laundry, or whatever. Does that work? |
| I’m a SAHM switch 3 kids and don’t have ADHD. Doing house chores (well) and taking care of kids at the same time is a challenge for me and probably most parents. |
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I can't cook and have a conversation with my husband or guests. I need to 100% focus on cooking. I cannot imagine cooking and caring for the kids. I CAN get breakfast on the table, because that's open cereal box, pour cereal, set the table. get our fruit, pour fruit into bowls, blah blah.
I'm just saying if I had to cook pancakes (measuring! remembering! steps!) while kids were racing under my feet and saying "look, look!" every 2 minutes, I, too would look like a 'cartoon robot with smoke coming out of my ears!" and I'm as NT as they come. I really, really appreciate the husband with ADHD and the wife with ADHD who posted the long message - those were amazingly helpful for me to understand this thing called ADHD and executive function. (and to know that taking a lap around the kitchen, or doing 3 jumping jacks then continuing on with the dishes would help to focus is amazing! As an educator, I am always trying to learn more about executive functioning skills and deficits) |
Hey, PP, I'm the one to whom you were responding, and I'm genuinely sorry if I triggered feelings of insecurity for you! As a person with ADHD, I also have Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria: https://www.additudemag.com/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria-and-adhd/ You sound like you're doing very well and have found something that works for you. Honestly, the sort of remedial advice I was giving was more for the OP, whose husband seems to be at a more remedial level than you or I appear to be. Perhaps more importantly, I didn't mean to be THAT discouraging! People with ADHD can get to be quite awesome at things like this at times, with a lot of thought and practice-- and especially if it comes to interest us to have a system. Then, woohoo-- hyperfocus! For example, I've been the most successful among my (NT) friends at the KonMari method, which has made everything downstream easier. But what I did mean to get across is that it takes work, it doesn't come naturally, we can't just "suck it up" and "stop being lazy" or "just ignore" XYZ or "do what I (NT) do"-- or whatever. It's important for NT people to understand where we're coming from and what *effective* support might actually look like. |
I am the PP to whom you're responding. With sincere respect, I disagree. Sorry this is another info dump-- it's hard to have a real back-and-forth in shorter comments on DCUM. There's sort of a constellation of interrelated issues I have with your comment. First, much of what you describe are more... household management activities, or activities of daily living (laundry! chores!) They are greater when you live with another human, and then exponentially greater when you have small humans to take care of in your household, as well, but they are not exclusive to parenting. You are correct in a general sense that these always come harder to people with ADHD almost by definition-- most require a fair bit of consistent executive function. But what you're describing is a lot like anything that is exaggerated/exacerbated/brought into stark relief when people become parents... but always existed beforehand. It's important! It ends up being a lot of the extra work that comes with parenting, so it's a very fair point. But it's not IMO even the majority of the work of parenting, itself. Maybe it seems like a semantic quibble, but I don't think so, because there are important parts of parenting that are exclusive to parenting that people with ADHD are more likely to excel at. For example, in teaching your child-- which is, in fact, exclusive to parenting-- being willing to admit when you're wrong, to see things from your child's perspective, to open up worlds for them, come up with creative activities, and so on. Again, not everyone with ADHD is awesome in all these ways, but not everyone with ADHD is near-useless at managing a household or setting boundaries. Especially more likely that moms with ADHD are halfway decent at those household management things. I have ADHD. My husband also has ADHD. We are pretty equal parents, though I'd say it's leans more like 55-60% me*, when it comes to time and energy spent, especially if you include all the household/scheduling stuff. I am... a woman. I have female friends with ADHD who are married to NT men, and most of them do even more of the "work of parenting" than I do. So the gender imbalance may be a bigger factor than the ADHD IMO... Intersecting with the fact that women with ADHD feel more obligated to compensate for their shortcomings. If you want to say it's very likely that a man with ADHD is not going to equally co-parent-- both including and excluding chores/household management-- I'd agree that's very very very likely true, at least on a population level. But then, your comment in general seems almost tautological (maybe not the word I want). "Yes, people with ADHD are more likely to have gifts, but some people have those gifts without the accompanying deficits." I mean, sure. And some people have, for practical purposes, the approximate deficits of ADHD and don't have the attendant gifts. But, sure, it's undeniably true that there exist people who are excellent at all aspects of parenting. I'm sure they make amazing coparents. But most people are just adequate (+/-) at most/all aspects. I'm just not sure I buy that this makes overall-adequate per se better parents than people who have some great gifts and some significant deficits. Probably easier for a lot of people to coparent with! (Including you, I'd guess.) But I'm not sure qualitatively better. If you want to say that people whose skills used in parenting are all-around-awesome make better parents than both "average" parents and ADHD parents, sure, of course. But that awesome group is small. Just because there exist some exceptional, doubly-gifted people doesn't mean that anyone not in that group is inadequate as a rule, though. Individuals, sure, but I don't think I agree parents with ADHD are inadequately equal coparents as a rule. It sounds like that's true in your household (no shade)-- and probably in a lot of ADHD man/NT woman households-- but I'm not sure why it would have to be among all ADHD parents. *A real 55-60%, if you actually take out a spreadsheet-- not the 55-60% a lot of women claim because the DH does more than their fathers, but is actually like 75-80%. |
Previous DH here, and I just wanted to focus on this part because I didn't know this was true and as an ADHD parent, I have notice it with my relationship with my kids. I will try to read up on this more. I have always thought of myself as creative but not in a drawing or a writing type of creative, more of a you put me in the middle of a maze and I'll get home somehow. |
| I'd just say have him do one thing or the other. Its not really that big of a deal. I'd also say worry less about the housework. If the counters don't get wiped down today they will get wiped down tomorrow. Spend you energy on things that matter and ask for and make compromises in your marriage for things that matter. |
Why does your husband have to do housework AND tend to the kid at the same time? Why can't he do one thing at a time? Or just let some housework go? Does the laundry HAVE to be folded? Why can't he just dump it in a drawer and call it a day? |
+1! What does "making breakfast" mean? When my kids were really young, making breakfast meant throwing some eggo waffles into a toaster. If you expected me to make eggs and pancakes from scratch, I'd calling you unrealistic. |
| It’s a man thing. Doesn’t everyone know this? They cannot multi task. |