If you believe in hell

Anonymous
If you don’t believe in god, you don’t believe in hell, so none of this matters.
Anonymous
I do t believe in hell but when I see some of the things people do to other people, children and animals I sure hope there is one for them.
Anonymous
Nope. Read the conversations with god books. Or John Edwards.
Anonymous
There are so many things to worry about in life, you'd be better off not worrying about hell.

It was probably made up centuries ago to scare people into being good -- or into giving money to the church (for indulgences to get you out of purgatory, i.e., temporary hell.)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There are so many things to worry about in life, you'd be better off not worrying about hell.

It was probably made up centuries ago to scare people into being good -- or into giving money to the church (for indulgences to get you out of purgatory, i.e., temporary hell.)


I don't believe in hell, but I think that your point about having other things to worry about only applies if there is no chance that hell exists. The consequences of anything else happening in this life - even the worst possible thing - will not last forever. The consequences of hell would. Fortunately, neither of us believe in it.
Anonymous
As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


And you believe your pastor? Maybe it's because his/her version of hell is nicer than the one in the bible or as taught by many Christian sects.

The rest of your post sounds like Pascal's wager -- if you're wrong, you suffer in hell, so while alive, just say you believe Christian teachings about hell even if you really don't (as if God can't spot a phony!)
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.


I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.


I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?


A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.

Yeah, definitely preferred.

Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.

Yeah, definitely preferred.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.


I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?


A body of atoms going back to the universe as atoms vs eternity in a very bad place called Hell.

Yeah, definitely preferred.

Or reincarnation vs a very bad place called Hell.

Yeah, definitely preferred.



So chilling in paradise with your loved ones for eternity is second to going back to atoms in the universe?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.


I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?


It's not a matter of preference -- it's about biology. Humans have no problem thinking that plants and other animals (except, maybe for pets) disappear into nothingness, but some humans like to think that they will not.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:As a Christian, I believe in hell. My pastor described hell not as the traditional fiery pit of torture and physical agony, but as a place of absolute isolation of a human soul from love and peace and everything they love, all goodness and light, because of the willful rejection of God. I guess if my religion is wrong and I die and disappear into nothingness, ok. If people who willfully reject God are wrong, the afterlife for them will be pretty bad, for eternity, as pp states above.


Love this.

If I’m wrong, nothing will happen.
If they’re wrong, they’ll have to suffer for eternity.

Crazy how people can’t recognize how damaged their minds have become.


This is called “Pascal’s Wager”, and it is fallacious thinking because it assumes a binary choice is between your god and no god.

What if the Scientologists are the one’s who are right? Or some religion you haven’t discovered?

At least we agree with your last point.


We are in agreement. My sarcasm didn’t come through.

The original pp stated with such arrogance about the version of hell she believes in, like it’s supposed to convey some sort of humanity.
Then basically admits that their religion confirms people to an eternity of “pretty bad” happenings if their religion is right. But if other people’s beliefs are right, nothing happens them.

Which actually conveys love and humanity? Which prefers a rather sadistic punishment?

I loved the irony.


I don’t think a human soul disappearing into nothingness is good. An absolute extinction everyone who ever lived, is preferred?


It's not a matter of preference -- it's about biology. Humans have no problem thinking that plants and other animals (except, maybe for pets) disappear into nothingness, but some humans like to think that they will not.


Because humans have souls. Plants don’t have souls and neither do animals.
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