Kid sentenced to 24 years in prison for killing a mother and child while drag racing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For people who think prisons are the best solution to the issues of public safety and justice, I recommend the work of Angela Davis. There are better and more effective solutions than prisons.

https://level.medium.com/why-arguments-against-abolition-inevitably-fail-991342b8d042

I would click that link but I remember the outpouring of fury a month ago when two D.C. teens killed a man while trying to steal his car. Where was the 'prisons aren't the best solution' logic then?

It was there, you just didn’t see it. I mean, maybe not fury (I don’t feel furious), but prison abolition is a concept that has been around for decades.

Yeah, sorry I don't agree. Murderers, rapists, and child pedophiles need to be locked away from everyone else. You don't rehabilitate that.

And this kid was warned before about his driving speeds. He chose to drag race on a crowded thoroughfare in Tampa.

This woman and her child are gone forever.

Nobody is denying the reprehensibility of his conduct. Also I don’t see that you have an interest about learning about prison reform. Which is a bummer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's the whole sentencing. The judge explains why he makes this ruling. The defendant will get out at the age of 45 if he serves the whole sentence. 40 if he serves 85%.

I have no idea what his lawyers were thinking.

Trying to watch but just irritated by the judges inability to wear a mask with a nose clip and positioned under his glasses so we don’t have to watch his touching and repositioning his mask over and over and over and over and over and over and over . . .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh he should not be sentenced for that long. It’s unforgivable what he did but putting him in prison for that long does the world no good.

He took two lives directly because of his selfishness. He shouldn't be allowed any more freedom for the remainder of his own life.

I agree. Driving like he did was no different than shooting a gun into a crowd. You know there's a high likelihood somebody is likely going to end up dead even if you can say "but I didn't mean to hit anyone." The surviving members of the victim's family deserve to know they don't have to see that guy going about his day for 24 years while they'll never see the victims again.

+1. Well said.

+1. I see the argument against 24 years and I do think that is long, but it's hard to get too upset about it.

If we want to have a conversation about incarceration reform, we can have it, but this is someone who absolutely got what was coming to him.

[Anonymous]

Agreed. Crimes committed in cars are too often treated as if somehow they are less serious - because “stuff happens” with cars. This is a welcome change. Despite the complacency and familiarity many feel - a car is a potential killing machine - using it recklessly should be punished accordingly. This was reckless indifference to human life - he murdered those people - and now will be treated like the murderer he is.

Also - I’d also treat repeat DUI offenders the same as someone who shot a gun into a crowd without hitting anyone - reckless endangerment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh he should not be sentenced for that long. It’s unforgivable what he did but putting him in prison for that long does the world no good.

DCUM when the criminal is black: This is disgusting, where are the parents? Lock the parents up too! What's wrong with their community!?

DCUM when the criminal is white: Poor BB, this is unfair.

This. Notice how he is juvenilized while DCUM clamors for much younger AA males to be charged as adults.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed. Crimes committed in cars are too often treated as if somehow they are less serious - because “stuff happens” with cars. This is a welcome change. Despite the complacency and familiarity many feel - a car is a potential killing machine - using it recklessly should be punished accordingly. This was reckless indifference to human life - he murdered those people - and now will be treated like the murderer he is.

Also - I’d also treat repeat DUI offenders the same as someone who shot a gun into a crowd without hitting anyone - reckless endangerment.

Agree. In this case we aren’t talking to someone who accidentally killed someone in their blind spot. He knowingly and was recklessly speeding. Awful. Completely foreseeable that he would kill someone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watch his eyes as the sentence is announced

He’s 21. Why was he a “kid” while black and brown boys under 18 are not given that courtesy on DCUM. Years ago, I used to regularly confront reporters over this. One reporter described a black 17 year old and her mom as “two women” while describing a white 23 year old and her mother as “girl and her mom”. This was in the same story!

Oh please. Just a couple weeks ago on DCUM, posters were calling a 22 year old black sexual assaulter/attempted kidnapper a "young child."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh he should not be sentenced for that long. It’s unforgivable what he did but putting him in prison for that long does the world no good.

DCUM when the criminal is black: This is disgusting, where are the parents? Lock the parents up too! What's wrong with their community!?

DCUM when the criminal is white: Poor BB, this is unfair.

This. Notice how he is juvenilized while DCUM clamors for much younger AA males to be charged as adults.

Not just on DCUM - but, yes, if this kid was black there would be zero discussion of how 24 years was too long.

[Anonymous]

Only 24 years? It should be life without parole

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Anonymous wrote:He had a chance to agree to a plea deal like his fellow driver who got 6 years. He decided to go to trial in a state where all prisoners are required to finish a minimum of 85% of their sentence.

wow. why?

I’m confused why you are confused. Look at him. It’s very clear why he decided to go to trial.

I mean not really - the facts were terrible and a young white mother and baby were killed. He got terrible legal advice somewhere along the way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He had a chance to agree to a plea deal like his fellow driver who got 6 years. He decided to go to trial in a state where all prisoners are required to finish a minimum of 85% of their sentence.

wow. why?

I’m confused why you are confused. Look at him. It’s very clear why he decided to go to trial.

I mean not really - the facts were terrible and a young white mother and baby were killed. He got terrible legal advice somewhere along the way.

Agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ugh he should not be sentenced for that long. It’s unforgivable what he did but putting him in prison for that long does the world no good.

DCUM when the criminal is black: This is disgusting, where are the parents? Lock the parents up too! What's wrong with their community!?

DCUM when the criminal is white: Poor BB, this is unfair.

if you can’t understand prison abolition arguments that’s really your issue. get off social media and do some reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had a chance to agree to a plea deal like his fellow driver who got 6 years. He decided to go to trial in a state where all prisoners are required to finish a minimum of 85% of their sentence.

wow. why?

I’m confused why you are confused. Look at him. It’s very clear why he decided to go to trial.

I mean not really - the facts were terrible and a young white mother and baby were killed. He got terrible legal advice somewhere along the way.

He’s a young rich white male. Why would he ever think he would go to jail for 24 years. I’m sure it was just terrible legal advice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He had a chance to agree to a plea deal like his fellow driver who got 6 years. He decided to go to trial in a state where all prisoners are required to finish a minimum of 85% of their sentence.

wow. why?

I’m confused why you are confused. Look at him. It’s very clear why he decided to go to trial.

I mean not really - the facts were terrible and a young white mother and baby were killed. He got terrible legal advice somewhere along the way.

Agree.

He didn’t go to trial, he pled guilty. He rejected whatever sentence the DA was offering and chose instead to let the judge decide. Bad choice, judging by the look in his eyes. Or maybe that’s what the DA was offering and he didn’t believe the judge would go as hard as well.

Children are a crap shoot but giving muscle cars to teenagers is never wise. His parents had to sell their home and move into a smaller one to meet their obligations under the civil judgment to the victims’ families. His mother was a high powered insurance executive retires early and father was Mr. Mom. SAHD. Oh well at least now they’ll save on his college tuition.

I have little sympathy. Racing on the highway is bad enough but it takes massive disregard for human life to race at speeds in excess of 100mph on surface streets in a busy city. I read a piece where his friends describe him as a very conscientious kid who was anti abortion and understood the value of human life. Oh really?

We can only hope it happened so fast that beautiful mommy and baby never knew what hit them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh he should not be sentenced for that long. It’s unforgivable what he did but putting him in prison for that long does the world no good.

You’re right, old sparky would be a much better solution for this monster

Ok, I should not laugh at the gallows humor, but I did!!