New Jay Matthew's op ed on TJ

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-school-admissions-debate/2021/03/26/e730baf6-8c30-11eb-a730-1b4ed9656258_story.html

Jackson said I am overlooking the fact that the portion of admitted students who are designated gifted will be less. That percentage “will decrease from the 90 percent who are in current classes under the merit-test admissions process to an estimated 60 percent under the new ‘holistic’ plan,” he said, “and it will racially discriminate against Asian Americans because school officials feel that they are overrepresented.”

He (similar to many others) doesn't even address this issue. It's like, oh they will be fine in other programs....

It was really weird Jay Mathews did not address the discrimination against Asian Americans in his very long column.

Maybe because there isn’t any when it comes to TJ admissions?

Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

73% of any one group of people being admitted to a public school is not fair. This does need to be addressed. However, excluding that community from future admissions in that school using some non-transparent methods is not fair either. After all, they also pay the same taxes that everyone else does..

Then look at the demographics for Langley High.

Shush. Langley is different. It’s OK to keep it economically segregated. Just ask Elaine Tholen.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

Because they have adopted admissions changes including per school quotas with an eye on reducing this high number of Asians.
The same thing happened 100 years ago, with Ivy League colleges adopting geographic diversity to reduce gthe number of Jews.

It's a per SCHOOL quota. It broadens the economic diversity of the school across Fairfax County. Believe it or not, there are Asians who attend Luther Jackson and Glasgow.

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Anonymous wrote:Have at it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-school-admissions-debate/2021/03/26/e730baf6-8c30-11eb-a730-1b4ed9656258_story.html

Jackson said I am overlooking the fact that the portion of admitted students who are designated gifted will be less. That percentage “will decrease from the 90 percent who are in current classes under the merit-test admissions process to an estimated 60 percent under the new ‘holistic’ plan,” he said, “and it will racially discriminate against Asian Americans because school officials feel that they are overrepresented.”

He (similar to many others) doesn't even address this issue. It's like, oh they will be fine in other programs....

It was really weird Jay Mathews did not address the discrimination against Asian Americans in his very long column.

Maybe because there isn’t any when it comes to TJ admissions?

Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

73% of any one group of people being admitted to a public school is not fair. This does need to be addressed. However, excluding that community from future admissions in that school using some non-transparent methods is not fair either. After all, they also pay the same taxes that everyone else does..

How are Asians "excluded" from future admissions? And as far as the "they pay taxes argument," other groups can say they pay taxes just like Asians so why is TJ currently 73 percent Asian. See how that works? I'm happy lower SES Asian kids in Eastern Fairfax will have a better chance of getting admitted to TJ under the new system. FCPS has decided that TJ, a public school, should serve the entire county based on population. Seems fair to me.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-school-admissions-debate/2021/03/26/e730baf6-8c30-11eb-a730-1b4ed9656258_story.html

Jackson said I am overlooking the fact that the portion of admitted students who are designated gifted will be less. That percentage “will decrease from the 90 percent who are in current classes under the merit-test admissions process to an estimated 60 percent under the new ‘holistic’ plan,” he said, “and it will racially discriminate against Asian Americans because school officials feel that they are overrepresented.”

He (similar to many others) doesn't even address this issue. It's like, oh they will be fine in other programs....

It was really weird Jay Mathews did not address the discrimination against Asian Americans in his very long column.

Maybe because there isn’t any when it comes to TJ admissions?

Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

73% of any one group of people being admitted to a public school is not fair. This does need to be addressed. However, excluding that community from future admissions in that school using some non-transparent methods is not fair either. After all, they also pay the same taxes that everyone else does..

Then look at the demographics for Langley High.

Langley's admission rules are simple... Live within the school's boundary. TJ's rules are different. Are you new to this area?

Then please tell your kids to work harder, TJ will be a school for them. It is a school for advanced kids and races should NOT be a factor here. You belong to where you should belong.

Race isn't a part of the new admissions criteria. And you belong where FCPS says you belong if you choose to live in Fairfax County. It's a public school and they have chosen to allocate spots based on geography. Why is this so hard to understand?

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

Because they have adopted admissions changes including per school quotas with an eye on reducing this high number of Asians.
The same thing happened 100 years ago, with Ivy League colleges adopting geographic diversity to reduce gthe number of Jews.

It's a per SCHOOL quota. It broadens the economic diversity of the school across Fairfax County. Believe it or not, there are Asians who attend Luther Jackson and Glasgow.

There will be more as people try to grab those quota seats. I have seen this happening in Loudoun.

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“ Jay Matthews is basically phoning it in at this point”
+1 cannot recall the last good piece by him I have read. He is like Petula for education.

+1,000
As lazy as they come. Hasn't written a well-rounded, well-researched piece in years.

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How are Asians "excluded" from future admissions?

Asians are more likely to be at certain schools, which got many more admissions to TJ.
Now those schools have had their admissions reduced to a certain number, lowering the number of Asians who will get in.

This might get offset by Asians in other schools getting in with the per school quotas at other schools in Fairfax. Some of the
Asians in the former schools will also be moving to the latter schools to take advantage of the quotas.

However, if Asians take all the seats in the other schools, the people who instituted the plan will not be happy.
Their goal is more black and brown people. If there is an essay requirement, that will be graded with an eye on getting more minorities(non-Asian) admitted.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

Because they have adopted admissions changes including per school quotas with an eye on reducing this high number of Asians.
The same thing happened 100 years ago, with Ivy League colleges adopting geographic diversity to reduce gthe number of Jews.

It's a per SCHOOL quota. It broadens the economic diversity of the school across Fairfax County. Believe it or not, there are Asians who attend Luther Jackson and Glasgow.

There will be more as people try to grab those quota seats. I have seen this happening in Loudoun.

so the low performing schools will pick up high performing students and become better schools? Sounds like a win/win.

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Race isn't a part of the new admissions criteria.

That's a nice claim, but it is. Their goal in making the changes is to change the racial makeup of the school.
Perhaps they won't have specific quotas or weighting factors, but essays will be graded with race in mind.
This was said explicitly by the person explaining the changes to Academy of Loudoun admissions,
and Farifax and Loudoun equity groups are working closely together. It's not a coincidence that
per school quotas were implemented at both magnet schools simultaneously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Have at it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-school-admissions-debate/2021/03/26/e730baf6-8c30-11eb-a730-1b4ed9656258_story.html

Jackson said I am overlooking the fact that the portion of admitted students who are designated gifted will be less. That percentage “will decrease from the 90 percent who are in current classes under the merit-test admissions process to an estimated 60 percent under the new ‘holistic’ plan,” he said, “and it will racially discriminate against Asian Americans because school officials feel that they are overrepresented.”

He (similar to many others) doesn't even address this issue. It's like, oh they will be fine in other programs....

It was really weird Jay Mathews did not address the discrimination against Asian Americans in his very long column.

Maybe because there isn’t any when it comes to TJ admissions?

Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

73% of any one group of people being admitted to a public school is not fair. This does need to be addressed. However, excluding that community from future admissions in that school using some non-transparent methods is not fair either. After all, they also pay the same taxes that everyone else does..

Then look at the demographics for Langley High.

Langley's admission rules are simple... Live within the school's boundary. TJ's rules are different. Are you new to this area?

Change the boundaries in the name of equity. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Race isn't a part of the new admissions criteria.

That's a nice claim, but it is. Their goal in making the changes is to change the racial makeup of the school.
Perhaps they won't have specific quotas or weighting factors, but essays will be graded with race in mind.
This was said explicitly by the person explaining the changes to Academy of Loudoun admissions,
and Farifax and Loudoun equity groups are working closely together. It's not a coincidence that
per school quotas were implemented at both magnet schools simultaneously.

is desegregation a bad thing now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

Because they have adopted admissions changes including per school quotas with an eye on reducing this high number of Asians.
The same thing happened 100 years ago, with Ivy League colleges adopting geographic diversity to reduce gthe number of Jews.

Not to reduce the number of Asian students. To proportionately reflect race, ethnicity, and SES across the county. But it’s cute how (largely) white parents are using anti-Asian discrimination as a means to maintain gatekeeping. It’s also cute how they are using it as a means to vocally question critical race theory, which is neither a new nor a complicated concept — just the latest conservation bogeyman.

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Anonymous wrote:Have at it...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/thomas-jefferson-high-school-admissions-debate/2021/03/26/e730baf6-8c30-11eb-a730-1b4ed9656258_story.html

Jackson said I am overlooking the fact that the portion of admitted students who are designated gifted will be less. That percentage “will decrease from the 90 percent who are in current classes under the merit-test admissions process to an estimated 60 percent under the new ‘holistic’ plan,” he said, “and it will racially discriminate against Asian Americans because school officials feel that they are overrepresented.”

He (similar to many others) doesn't even address this issue. It's like, oh they will be fine in other programs....

It was really weird Jay Mathews did not address the discrimination against Asian Americans in his very long column.

Maybe because there isn’t any when it comes to TJ admissions?

Will TJ’s new equity in recruitment/admissions/attendance address FARMs students? Accommodations and IEPs? Differently-abled students? Those deemed at risk? What about previous disciplinary actions? ESL students?

I know firsthand all about the gaming and prepping for admittance to the Almighty AAP program and the Holy Grail of school choice granted to those who are accepted and AAP has never, ever been fair or equitable and is pretty much de facto segregation.
Seriously. How can a school with 73% Asian-American students be discriminating against them?

73% of any one group of people being admitted to a public school is not fair. This does need to be addressed. However, excluding that community from future admissions in that school using some non-transparent methods is not fair either. After all, they also pay the same taxes that everyone else does..

Then look at the demographics for Langley High.

Langley's admission rules are simple... Live within the school's boundary. TJ's rules are different. Are you new to this area?

Change the boundaries in the name of equity. Problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Will TJ’s new equity in recruitment/admissions/attendance address FARMs students? Accommodations and IEPs? Differently-abled students? Those deemed at risk? What about previous disciplinary actions? ESL students?

I know firsthand all about the gaming and prepping for admittance to the Almighty AAP program and the Holy Grail of school choice granted to those who are accepted and AAP has never, ever been fair or equitable and is pretty much de facto segregation.

I start the popcorn.

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is desegregation a bad thing now?

The previous admissions criteria were race neutral.