New Jay Matthew's op ed on TJ

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

Ahhh, so you ARE racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

Ahhh, so you ARE racist.

You are so weird. Why should everything in this country be about race? Why do you even combine people who came from China and India under the same race named “Asian”? Do they look alike to you?

[Anonymous]

I suggest that we classify Indian people as black because they look more black than Asian. This will resolve the imbalance of Asian vs. black students at TJ in one minute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

Really??? The new standards are race neutral but you are vehemently complaining about them because you think they will impact the number of Asians admitted. There are no race quotas under the new system, so Asians can apply and be admitted like everyone else. There will be a broader cross section of kids admitted because it promotes geographic diversity across the county. The geographic diversity also means there will be more SES diversity. But you only care that one group retains all the spots. I think you are the one focused on race, not the government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

Ahhh, so you ARE racist.

You are so weird. Why should everything in this country be about race? Why do you even combine people who came from China and India under the same race named “Asian”? Do they look alike to you?

Again, we definitely need to disaggregate these numbers by East and South Asian. Not just at TJ but within the general population. If you do that, you'll see that it's actually the South Asians who are far more over-represented at TJ than the East Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TJ should be closed and let the money be spent on improving lower income schools.

- said the anti-Asian racist.

How do you bigots live with yourselves?

DP. What? There are lots of Asian kids of lower income schools. I don't have a problem with TJ staying open, but I have a problem with the total pushback from current beneficiaries to any change that might bring in a broader group of kids. What do you think happens to the thousands of high performing kids who were rejected by TJ each year under the old system? I'm guessing most of them ended up at an equal or better school than if they had gone to TJ. The kids rejected under the new system will also do well.

+1 FCPS is one of the best school systems in the country. It’s not like the TJ is the end all be all. In fact, it’s become more difficult to get into top universities as a TJ student so it’s more of a detriment if that is the ultimate goal you have for your children.

Honestly, people who are against any change to the admissions process are just racist and classist and don’t want their kids to go to school with poor kids or Black and brown kids. They’re not fooling anyone.

And I think that people who pay any attention to race during the admission process are racists.

DP. So you're admitting you're racist then? The admissions standards are race neutral and your only concern is whether the number of Asian kids will be impacted.

No. I want the government and everybody else to stop grouping/dividing people by races. I don’t want to know how many students of each color any school has.

Ahhh, so you ARE racist.

You are so weird. Why should everything in this country be about race? Why do you even combine people who came from China and India under the same race named “Asian”? Do they look alike to you?

Again, we definitely need to disaggregate these numbers by East and South Asian. Not just at TJ but within the general population. If you do that, you'll see that it's actually the South Asians who are far more over-represented at TJ than the East Asians.

+1

Not all parts of the Asian community in FCPS are represented at TJ, and that is also a problem. So yes, we *should* disaggregate those numbers. Being colorblind is not a solution since we don't live in a utopian society where there is no racism or implicit bias.

[Anonymous]

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Ok. Where to start? First, your English is perfect. If your kids had a hard time learning English, which I doubt, it's because you chose to speak a different language at home. It wasn't because you didn't understand/speak English like many poor immigrants. My DC's best friend's parents have a hard time communicating with me and can't help their kids at all. They also don't have the financial means for tutors. Those kids deserve equity points. Your kids, not so much. My friends are from Sweden, they chose not to speak English at home, their kids do extremely well in school because the parents are well educated...Do you really think their kids are much more deserving of equity points because they speak another language at home?

Thank you for complimenting my English. When I came to the US, I didn't understand what people were saying. In the car, I started listening to NPR because they talk non-stop and do so clearly. I borrowed audio books from the library and listened to them at home. Why can't poor immigrants that you refer to listen to NPR and audio books and take free English courses? There are plenty of them online and on the CDs that can be borrowed from the library. Pre-COVID, they used to have free in-person English classes in the libraries. When the resources are readily available, it's a personal choice what to learn or not to learn.

Well that means that the “experience “points that your kids deserve are because you have to renew your visas and driver license yearly? Oh and no extended family or relatives? Give me a break. Ok who is next, who struggle more? Probably the family without cleaning person, or the kid that have to go grocery shopping after school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ok. Where to start? First, your English is perfect. If your kids had a hard time learning English, which I doubt, it's because you chose to speak a different language at home. It wasn't because you didn't understand/speak English like many poor immigrants. My DC's best friend's parents have a hard time communicating with me and can't help their kids at all. They also don't have the financial means for tutors. Those kids deserve equity points. Your kids, not so much. My friends are from Sweden, they chose not to speak English at home, their kids do extremely well in school because the parents are well educated...Do you really think their kids are much more deserving of equity points because they speak another language at home?

Thank you for complimenting my English. When I came to the US, I didn't understand what people were saying. In the car, I started listening to NPR because they talk non-stop and do so clearly. I borrowed audio books from the library and listened to them at home. Why can't poor immigrants that you refer to listen to NPR and audio books and take free English courses? There are plenty of them online and on the CDs that can be borrowed from the library. Pre-COVID, they used to have free in-person English classes in the libraries. When the resources are readily available, it's a personal choice what to learn or not to learn.

Well that means that the “experience “points that your kids deserve are because you have to renew your visas and driver license yearly? Oh and no extended family or relatives? Give me a break. Ok who is next, who struggle more? Probably the family without cleaning person, or the kid that have to go grocery shopping after school?

I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ok. Where to start? First, your English is perfect. If your kids had a hard time learning English, which I doubt, it's because you chose to speak a different language at home. It wasn't because you didn't understand/speak English like many poor immigrants. My DC's best friend's parents have a hard time communicating with me and can't help their kids at all. They also don't have the financial means for tutors. Those kids deserve equity points. Your kids, not so much. My friends are from Sweden, they chose not to speak English at home, their kids do extremely well in school because the parents are well educated...Do you really think their kids are much more deserving of equity points because they speak another language at home?

Thank you for complimenting my English. When I came to the US, I didn't understand what people were saying. In the car, I started listening to NPR because they talk non-stop and do so clearly. I borrowed audio books from the library and listened to them at home. Why can't poor immigrants that you refer to listen to NPR and audio books and take free English courses? There are plenty of them online and on the CDs that can be borrowed from the library. Pre-COVID, they used to have free in-person English classes in the libraries. When the resources are readily available, it's a personal choice what to learn or not to learn.

Well that means that the “experience “points that your kids deserve are because you have to renew your visas and driver license yearly? Oh and no extended family or relatives? Give me a break. Ok who is next, who struggle more? Probably the family without cleaning person, or the kid that have to go grocery shopping after school?

These points are irrelevant to my kids. I’m just saying that an immigrant who had no support system and English language skills deserves more points than a person whose parents and grandparents were born in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Really??? The new standards are race neutral but you are vehemently complaining about them because you think they will impact the number of Asians admitted. There are no race quotas under the new system, so Asians can apply and be admitted like everyone else. There will be a broader cross section of kids admitted because it promotes geographic diversity across the county. The geographic diversity also means there will be more SES diversity. But you only care that one group retains all the spots. I think you are the one focused on race, not the government.

The new standards were implemented with a goal of changing the racial makeup of TJ. Just as the new admissions standards for ACL were implemented with a goal of bringing in more 'black and brown people', where brown people does not mean South Asian.
Tests where Asians do well were deweighted or removed in favor of geographic diversity(which was used by the Ivy Leagues a century ago to reduce the number of Jews).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Really??? The new standards are race neutral but you are vehemently complaining about them because you think they will impact the number of Asians admitted. There are no race quotas under the new system, so Asians can apply and be admitted like everyone else. There will be a broader cross section of kids admitted because it promotes geographic diversity across the county. The geographic diversity also means there will be more SES diversity. But you only care that one group retains all the spots. I think you are the one focused on race, not the government.

The new standards were implemented with a goal of changing the racial makeup of TJ. Just as the new admissions standards for ACL were implemented with a goal of bringing in more 'black and brown people', where brown people does not mean South Asian.
Tests where Asians do well were deweighted or removed in favor of geographic diversity(which was used by the Ivy Leagues a century ago to reduce the number of Jews).

+1. They initiated the admission changes when the BLM movement was in full force, motivated by the desire to please the BLM supporters. This year, the general public seems to understand that Asian lives matter too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Ok. Where to start? First, your English is perfect. If your kids had a hard time learning English, which I doubt, it's because you chose to speak a different language at home. It wasn't because you didn't understand/speak English like many poor immigrants. My DC's best friend's parents have a hard time communicating with me and can't help their kids at all. They also don't have the financial means for tutors. Those kids deserve equity points. Your kids, not so much. My friends are from Sweden, they chose not to speak English at home, their kids do extremely well in school because the parents are well educated...Do you really think their kids are much more deserving of equity points because they speak another language at home?

Thank you for complimenting my English. When I came to the US, I didn't understand what people were saying. In the car, I started listening to NPR because they talk non-stop and do so clearly. I borrowed audio books from the library and listened to them at home. Why can't poor immigrants that you refer to listen to NPR and audio books and take free English courses? There are plenty of them online and on the CDs that can be borrowed from the library. Pre-COVID, they used to have free in-person English classes in the libraries. When the resources are readily available, it's a personal choice what to learn or not to learn.

Well that means that the “experience “points that your kids deserve are because you have to renew your visas and driver license yearly? Oh and no extended family or relatives? Give me a break. Ok who is next, who struggle more? Probably the family without cleaning person, or the kid that have to go grocery shopping after school?

These points are irrelevant to my kids. I’m just saying that an immigrant who had no support system and English language skills deserves more points than a person whose parents and grandparents were born in the US.

As a immigrant myself and my kids without any Family around and tight budget I completely disagree with you. I decided to come to this country and immerse in it and be part of it without any special treatment of any kind, because I truly believe in meritocracy and in my abilities and capacity and above all it was my decision.