I don't tip and I'm proud of it

[Anonymous]

Don't feed the troll.

[Anonymous]

What an odd thing to be proud of, OP. Is this an AMA post, I have more questions starting with are you this cheap in other aspects of your life? The whole point of tipping is it incentivizes servers to give you good service. That's what we all want. In Europe, the restaurant service is not nearly as good according to many different anecdotes I've heard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Servers in many, many places make $2.13 an hour.

That's right. TWO DOLLARS AND THIRTEEN CENTS for a whole hour of work.

Restaurants can get away with this because they say that with tips they can make minimum wage. Sadly, sometimes you don't end up making minimum wage because of assholes like you.

Especially during COVID. This is the time to tip more, not less!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When in Rome, do as the Romans.

Now if you are a provocateur, you do you.

This is dcum, after all. The land of provocateurs!

[Anonymous]

I tip, and usually heavily. That said, the restaurant industry is an abusive disaster, and I would welcome ground level change.

[Anonymous]

Trollllllllll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do what you want, but having been a server in restaurants all through college, we didn't even make minimum wage. If you want to take up the cause to eliminate tipping, personally I'd find another way to do it rather than denying tips to people who rely on the income (especially during covid).

Having been a server in restaurants all through college, I have a hard time believing you. I agree that there are much better ways to make your point than taking tips away from servers, but where were you waiting on tables that you didn't make minimum wage?

Waitstaff in DC and many other places don’t get paid minimum wage. Google it.

I don't think you understood what I said. I have a hard time believing that she didn't make it up to minimum wage when she was a server in college. Not that she wasn't paid minimum wage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do what you want, but having been a server in restaurants all through college, we didn't even make minimum wage. If you want to take up the cause to eliminate tipping, personally I'd find another way to do it rather than denying tips to people who rely on the income (especially during covid).

Having been a server in restaurants all through college, I have a hard time believing you. I agree that there are much better ways to make your point than taking tips away from servers, but where were you waiting on tables that you didn't make minimum wage?

You were a waiter and never realized that in many states, the "tipped minimum" is less than minimum wage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do what you want, but having been a server in restaurants all through college, we didn't even make minimum wage. If you want to take up the cause to eliminate tipping, personally I'd find another way to do it rather than denying tips to people who rely on the income (especially during covid).

Having been a server in restaurants all through college, I have a hard time believing you. I agree that there are much better ways to make your point than taking tips away from servers, but where were you waiting on tables that you didn't make minimum wage?

Um ,what? I waited tables for ten years and 2.13 or thereabouts is standard industry practice. Maybe franchises or chains do it differently.

Good grief. No kidding. And you didn't make enough in tips to bridge the gap between that and the $5/hr or $7/hr or whatever minimum wage was at the time? Get it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do what you want, but having been a server in restaurants all through college, we didn't even make minimum wage. If you want to take up the cause to eliminate tipping, personally I'd find another way to do it rather than denying tips to people who rely on the income (especially during covid).

Having been a server in restaurants all through college, I have a hard time believing you. I agree that there are much better ways to make your point than taking tips away from servers, but where were you waiting on tables that you didn't make minimum wage?

You were a waiter and never realized that in many states, the "tipped minimum" is less than minimum wage?

JFC. How dim are all of you?

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Anonymous wrote:I do tip, but I think tipping is out of control. I say this as someone who has worked service jobs that rely on it, as a server and bartender.

I particularly feel its absurd to base the tip on the amount of spending (although I always did). It's actually easier working at an expensive restaurant than a cheaper one, but you make tons more. THere's no logic to it. Probably the same for hair salons--does anyone assume a $100 haircut with a $20-$25 tip means more work than a $50 one? Takes the same amount of time.

I'm starting to come around to this too. If it's a really expensive restaurant I'll tip more traditionally in line with the amount, i.e. 18%. But hell, IHOP or Waffle House, I tip more like 50 or 60%. It's not their fault the food is cheap is hell. They're running their a$$es off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do what you want, but having been a server in restaurants all through college, we didn't even make minimum wage. If you want to take up the cause to eliminate tipping, personally I'd find another way to do it rather than denying tips to people who rely on the income (especially during covid).

Having been a server in restaurants all through college, I have a hard time believing you. I agree that there are much better ways to make your point than taking tips away from servers, but where were you waiting on tables that you didn't make minimum wage?

Dp here. I absolutely believe PP. I worked the 2-10 pm shift at a regional chain similar to Denny's one summer. Our base wage was sub-minimum. Breakfast (which I missed) was the busiest time, lunch (which I missed) was pretty busy, dinner less so, especially on weekdays. We would have a few come in for coffee in the afternoons, but that doesn't equate to large tips. Sometimes groups would come in and just want dessert (which the servers had to assemble), a lot of work for a small charge (and tip), and the customers would be impatient because they'd only ordered dessert. Entrees were modestly priced, and while most people gave reasonable tips, they weren't likely to be big tippers - and 15% was considered standard, not 20% like I've seen referenced on DCUM. I've had a variety of jobs over the years, but that job was absolutely the hardest I've ever worked and the lowest I've ever been paid.

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Anonymous wrote:What an odd thing to be proud of, OP. Is this an AMA post, I have more questions starting with are you this cheap in other aspects of your life? The whole point of tipping is it incentivizes servers to give you good service. That's what we all want. In Europe, the restaurant service is not nearly as good according to many different anecdotes I've heard.

NP. Restaurant service in European countries where tipping isn’t expected is great. Had zero issues on my most recent prepandemic trips in Ireland and Spain. Servers are paid a living wage to do their jobs, and they do them well. I would much rather have the cost of the meal reflect the actual price of serving it. If a waiter in Europe went above and beyond with recommendations, etc., I’d leave a few coins/change. That’s it. It’s lovely.

I like not having to do calculations at the end of a nice meal, too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What an odd thing to be proud of, OP. Is this an AMA post, I have more questions starting with are you this cheap in other aspects of your life? The whole point of tipping is it incentivizes servers to give you good service. That's what we all want. In Europe, the restaurant service is not nearly as good according to many different anecdotes I've heard.

LOL. I've actually travelled in multiple countries in "Europe" and the service is always just as good as in the US. Sometimes okay, sometimes really good, sometimes outstanding.

And the incentive for waitstaff to give good service is that they would like to keep their jobs and because they take pride in doing good work, just like every other job in the world. Tipping enables a lot of abuse of waitstaff by customers -- sexual harassment, being a giant PITA, unreasonable demands -- that waitstaff have to put up with because they are hoping for rely on tips.

[Anonymous]

So the poor server gets stiffed so you can make a point?