Hot-mic moment captures how some educators really feel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.

The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.

Plus as someone in government I’d face pressure to resign. This is a no-brainer. I’m completely lost as to why everyone in education gets a pass for things no one else can do without repercussions.

+1

It's shocking they haven't all resigned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.

The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.

Plus as someone in government I’d face pressure to resign. This is a no-brainer. I’m completely lost as to why everyone in education gets a pass for things no one else can do without repercussions.

These people aren't in government or education. They're school board members.

Seriously, they happen to be school board members in the worst time in living memory to be school board members. Unfortunately, they're not rising to the occasion.

At least one of them was a long-time teacher in the district.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm a parent, and also someone who has a job. If I ever got caught talking this poorly about clients, I'd be fired.

The rest of you almost certainly would too. And it's deserved.

Plus as someone in government I’d face pressure to resign. This is a no-brainer. I’m completely lost as to why everyone in education gets a pass for things no one else can do without repercussions.

These people aren't in government or education. They're school board members.

Seriously, they happen to be school board members in the worst time in living memory to be school board members. Unfortunately, they're not rising to the occasion.

So? Anyone in any official position shouldn't be talking like this and should expect to be fired or "asked" to resign.

[Anonymous]

Truly amazing that a public official, or anyone in a taxpayer-funded position, is referring to school as "free" babysitting.

I am about as far left as they come and that makes even me twitchy. There is nothing "free" about public school, and I am exhausted by the continued argument that childcare is not one of the stated purposes and goals of public education. It is.

It's not free, and it's not "babysitting". It is paid for by taxes and it is a necessary public function, as essential to society as running water or hospitals. All these people calling parents entitled because they are struggling to get by without an essential public utility are really showing their a$$es.

[Anonymous]

I don't feel any sympathy for anyone who is having an "extra hard" time because of the pandemic. The rest of us are too. It's not unique.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

MY GOD HAS ANYONE HEARD OF A NON-REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLE? ANYONE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shameful for these school officials to mock their own constituents like that. They have lost all moral authority in my eyes. Good luck getting me to vote for another school bond proposal!

I think school bond proposals will be failing all over this country in the coming years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

Why do you think your single example is representative? Do you disagree that teachers unions are around 80% white women? White women are dominating this discussion and speaking for non-white families on both sides of this.

The fact is, the woman who resigned here and talked about "babysitting" is a white teacher, speaking about a Latino-majority school district. It's reprehensible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The entitlement is mind blowing.

Like it's soooooooo outrageous for taxpayers to expect school teachers to either actually do their jobs or to quit and stop getting money for nothing.

Teachers are doing their jobs. They are not getting "money for nothing." But you already knew that.

This is what public schools are offering during a pandemic? Don't like it? There's the door. Enjoy paying out the nose for private, if you can even get into one.

The bolded is the unions talking. It should never have been up to the unions. It should be up to the taxpayers. We're the ones paying for the service, so we should be the ones to decide what we're willing to pay for.

We should fire all the teachers and start again. Hire new teachers (or the good ones back), actually pay teachers based on performance, and start spending the vast majority of the money on teachers and kids rather than paper pushers sitting behind desks doing nothing for students.

Or just do away with large districts by approving more and more charter schools. They achieve the same outcomes or better for far less money. And they can operate independently and make the best decisions for students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Truly amazing that a public official, or anyone in a taxpayer-funded position, is referring to school as "free" babysitting.

I am about as far left as they come and that makes even me twitchy. There is nothing "free" about public school, and I am exhausted by the continued argument that childcare is not one of the stated purposes and goals of public education. It is.

It's not free, and it's not "babysitting". It is paid for by taxes and it is a necessary public function, as essential to society as running water or hospitals. All these people calling parents entitled because they are struggling to get by without an essential public utility are really showing their a$$es.

+1

Unbelievable. Except, unfortunately, totally believable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shameful for these school officials to mock their own constituents like that. They have lost all moral authority in my eyes. Good luck getting me to vote for another school bond proposal!

I think school bond proposals will be failing all over this country in the coming years.

I sure hope so. These people need to be schooled about who employs whom and for what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

...do you really teach them and call them "low-income Hispanics"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

...do you really teach them and call them "low-income Hispanics"?

Yes. I say that to them. Do people understand who school board members are? In many cases, they are not teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's funny because it is the wealthy white parents who seem to want their babysitting back more than the low income Hispanics.

No. Thar is just the rhetoric the unions are putting forth, but as you can see from this example, Latino parents are extremely concerned about the total loss of education as well.

That having been said, I do think white voices are dominating the conversation. They dominate the union rhetoric too.

No, it is not. I teach low-income Hispanics and a very small minority of them are returning to school. My son goes to school with most wealthy white students and nearly all of his classmates want to return,

...do you really teach them and call them "low-income Hispanics"?

Yes. I say that to them. Do people understand who school board members are? In many cases, they are not teachers.

Well, in this case it was a teacher.