Wash Post - Stop vaccinating teachers if they won’t go back in person

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


I don’t have a union rep. About 3 percent of the faculty belong to FEA.


Well then I would suggest you join FEA and run for a leadership position.

Like it or not FEA is where the county, the school board and the community look at get teachers input. If you aren’t willing to make them change their agenda then you are beholden to it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe an aide to a virulent anti-labor conservative would hold such a position.



hard to believe that the teachers unions abhorrent behavior has made me, a die-hard liberal, align with an Eric Cantor aide.


It would be great if we actually had unions in Northern Virginia, but we don’t. You think teachers are on strike or something? Idiot.


I think 20% of teacher submitted ADA requests and overwhelmed the system because they were egged on by the unions. And that made reopening this fall while numbers were low possible. So, not exactly a strike. But, definitely a sick out type job action. I can’t imagine how bad it would have been if bargaining rights had actually gone through.


This will get us a Republican Governor next fall. It would be my first Republican vote ever. But, NoVA has always cared more about education than any other issue. And if a Republican Governor Union busting is what it takes to get 5 days a week of school for my kid, I’m in.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


I don’t have a union rep. About 3 percent of the faculty belong to FEA.


Well, then the other 97% of you need to stop letting FEA give the impression that they speak for you. You preach to kids about not giving into peer pressure and standing up for their beliefs. Time to walk the walk. When you keep your head down and stay quiet, the FEA is the only voice parents hear. And frankly, the FEA is noxious and making parents despise teachers.


Yeah, looks like we have to unionize so the fake union leader will stop spouting BS at school board meetings. We didn’t take her seriously because we assumed people didn’t listen to her. To tell you the truth, I don’t think they are listening to her. Teachers are just a convenient scapegoat for whatever is holding up schools opening and Kim is making that very nice and easy for them. Maybe that’s why she gets to speak and the other two fake unions don’t.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


For some reason Kimberly Adams thinks she represents you. Because someone joined her union and voted for her. Then she mad big news getting vaccinated. Does she even teach BTW? If she doesn’t represent you, for the love of God choose someone else. And no, saying: she doesn’t represent me, but I’m being peer pressured into not contradicting her doesn’t make you anything but a coward. Put up. Or STFU.


I didn’t want to be part of a union for God’s sake. And now I have to organize a union to combat a pretend union? I so don’t have the time or energy for this. I hear you. She needs to STFU. i just can’t do this signature gathering letter writing campaign thing. I am depressed enough as it is.


Well then congrats. Kimberly Adam’s speaks for you in most parents minds.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


For some reason Kimberly Adams thinks she represents you. Because someone joined her union and voted for her. Then she mad big news getting vaccinated. Does she even teach BTW? If she doesn’t represent you, for the love of God choose someone else. And no, saying: she doesn’t represent me, but I’m being peer pressured into not contradicting her doesn’t make you anything but a coward. Put up. Or STFU.


What, exactly, do you want someone who is not an FEA member to do? I cannot contact her to disagree, as I am not a member of FEA.

Every time I get a survey or my admin asks, I say I’m ready to go back as soon as I’m vaccinated, but that I’ll go back before it I have to. I don’t have time or energy or desire to fight a few super vocal people on either side. It’s also not my job to. I personally don’t really care where I teach, I’ll do it anywhere the best I can.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop vaccinating them altogether for now if they are not currently in person.

There are high risk groups not getting vaccinated, there are front facing employees of various industries not getting vaccinated, there are people aged 75+ that are not getting vaccinated because there aren't enough vaccines.

Everyone that absolutely need the vaccine *right now* because of those factors should be getting the vaccine right now. Not teachers that are distance learning and not for future needs of *possible* in person teaching who knows how far down the line that the can keeps getting kicked down.

Everyone working at in person jobs should be getting vaccinated not the maybe I'll be working in person later people.



Great idea. I am sure you now favor pausing the return since INOVA canceled the teacher appointments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe an aide to a virulent anti-labor conservative would hold such a position.



hard to believe that the teachers unions abhorrent behavior has made me, a die-hard liberal, align with an Eric Cantor aide.


It would be great if we actually had unions in Northern Virginia, but we don’t. You think teachers are on strike or something? Idiot.


I think 20% of teacher submitted ADA requests and overwhelmed the system because they were egged on by the unions. And that made reopening this fall while numbers were low possible. So, not exactly a strike. But, definitely a sick out type job action. I can’t imagine how bad it would have been if bargaining rights had actually gone through.


This will get us a Republican Governor next fall. It would be my first Republican vote ever. But, NoVA has always cared more about education than any other issue. And if a Republican Governor Union busting is what it takes to get 5 days a week of school for my kid, I’m in.


I’m 40 and have voted in every single primary and election since I turned 18, all straight Dem.

I’ll be voting straight GOP in every local election moving toward, and plan on Max donating to multiple school board races.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hard to believe an aide to a virulent anti-labor conservative would hold such a position.



hard to believe that the teachers unions abhorrent behavior has made me, a die-hard liberal, align with an Eric Cantor aide.


It would be great if we actually had unions in Northern Virginia, but we don’t. You think teachers are on strike or something? Idiot.


I think 20% of teacher submitted ADA requests and overwhelmed the system because they were egged on by the unions. And that made reopening this fall while numbers were low possible. So, not exactly a strike. But, definitely a sick out type job action. I can’t imagine how bad it would have been if bargaining rights had actually gone through.


This will get us a Republican Governor next fall. It would be my first Republican vote ever. But, NoVA has always cared more about education than any other issue. And if a Republican Governor Union busting is what it takes to get 5 days a week of school for my kid, I’m in.


Well, it is always easy to blame the low man on the totem pole. Go ahead and become Republican. It sounds like you are already there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


I don’t have a union rep. About 3 percent of the faculty belong to FEA.


Well, then the other 97% of you need to stop letting FEA give the impression that they speak for you. You preach to kids about not giving into peer pressure and standing up for their beliefs. Time to walk the walk. When you keep your head down and stay quiet, the FEA is the only voice parents hear. And frankly, the FEA is noxious and making parents despise teachers.


Yeah, looks like we have to unionize so the fake union leader will stop spouting BS at school board meetings. We didn’t take her seriously because we assumed people didn’t listen to her. To tell you the truth, I don’t think they are listening to her. Teachers are just a convenient scapegoat for whatever is holding up schools opening and Kim is making that very nice and easy for them. Maybe that’s why she gets to speak and the other two fake unions don’t.


I’m informed enough about education in FCPS to have kids in both pupil placement IB and TJ. And I have always thought she speaks for you. She’s the only voice talking about what teachers want. And as a parent, I’m not going to go digging for which association represents which portion of teachers. She says she the teachers Union. The SB treats her like the teachers Union. So, I try to keep 2 teens and 2 teleworkers above water and think: this is what teachers want.

Kimberly Adam’s clearly has further political aspirations. Although I doubt she gets far since she cannot read the room. I’m sure if thousands of teachers told her to STFU, she would.
Anonymous
I haven’t signed up to take any vaccine and do not plan on doing so unless I have a gun to my head. That being said I have zero problems teaching in person and I’m looking forward to it.
Anonymous
How did Adams get her vaccine two days before teachers were even slated to get them?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


For some reason Kimberly Adams thinks she represents you. Because someone joined her union and voted for her. Then she mad big news getting vaccinated. Does she even teach BTW? If she doesn’t represent you, for the love of God choose someone else. And no, saying: she doesn’t represent me, but I’m being peer pressured into not contradicting her doesn’t make you anything but a coward. Put up. Or STFU.


I didn’t want to be part of a union for God’s sake. And now I have to organize a union to combat a pretend union? I so don’t have the time or energy for this. I hear you. She needs to STFU. i just can’t do this signature gathering letter writing campaign thing. I am depressed enough as it is.


Well then congrats. Kimberly Adam’s speaks for you in most parents minds.


Well, at least the ones who are eager to scapegoat someone for schools closing - those who choose the peons as the culprits, well, what can I say? I wish I was as powerful, conniving, and self serving as you think I am. I would probably be better off. Instead, I am poor and, right now, miserable,
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


For some reason Kimberly Adams thinks she represents you. Because someone joined her union and voted for her. Then she mad big news getting vaccinated. Does she even teach BTW? If she doesn’t represent you, for the love of God choose someone else. And no, saying: she doesn’t represent me, but I’m being peer pressured into not contradicting her doesn’t make you anything but a coward. Put up. Or STFU.


What, exactly, do you want someone who is not an FEA member to do? I cannot contact her to disagree, as I am not a member of FEA.

Every time I get a survey or my admin asks, I say I’m ready to go back as soon as I’m vaccinated, but that I’ll go back before it I have to. I don’t have time or energy or desire to fight a few super vocal people on either side. It’s also not my job to. I personally don’t really care where I teach, I’ll do it anywhere the best I can.


I too am a Union member (ALPA). A few years ago we elected a new rep who I disagreed with on almost every issue. I felt the things he was pushing for did not represent myself or my fellow union members.

So even though I hate the work I ran against him and won.

It would have been easy to sit back and let it slide, but I refused to allow my profession be denigrated by this guy so I did what needed to be done to fix it.

It’s pretty sad that a bunch of teachers who are supposed to be educating students about things like peer pressure, civics, and self worth are unable to understand this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stop vaccinating them altogether for now if they are not currently in person.

There are high risk groups not getting vaccinated, there are front facing employees of various industries not getting vaccinated, there are people aged 75+ that are not getting vaccinated because there aren't enough vaccines.

Everyone that absolutely need the vaccine *right now* because of those factors should be getting the vaccine right now. Not teachers that are distance learning and not for future needs of *possible* in person teaching who knows how far down the line that the can keeps getting kicked down.

Everyone working at in person jobs should be getting vaccinated not the maybe I'll be working in person later people.


+10000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think I can take much more teacher hate right now. It is awful being accused of things I never did and have no control over.


tell it to your union rep


I don’t have a union rep. About 3 percent of the faculty belong to FEA.


Well, then the other 97% of you need to stop letting FEA give the impression that they speak for you. You preach to kids about not giving into peer pressure and standing up for their beliefs. Time to walk the walk. When you keep your head down and stay quiet, the FEA is the only voice parents hear. And frankly, the FEA is noxious and making parents despise teachers.


Yeah, looks like we have to unionize so the fake union leader will stop spouting BS at school board meetings. We didn’t take her seriously because we assumed people didn’t listen to her. To tell you the truth, I don’t think they are listening to her. Teachers are just a convenient scapegoat for whatever is holding up schools opening and Kim is making that very nice and easy for them. Maybe that’s why she gets to speak and the other two fake unions don’t.


I’m informed enough about education in FCPS to have kids in both pupil placement IB and TJ. And I have always thought she speaks for you. She’s the only voice talking about what teachers want. And as a parent, I’m not going to go digging for which association represents which portion of teachers. She says she the teachers Union. The SB treats her like the teachers Union. So, I try to keep 2 teens and 2 teleworkers above water and think: this is what teachers want.

Kimberly Adam’s clearly has further political aspirations. Although I doubt she gets far since she cannot read the room. I’m sure if thousands of teachers told her to STFU, she would.


I just moved here in 2019. I have no idea. I can’t deal. This is too much.
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