Wash Post - Stop vaccinating teachers if they won’t go back in person

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Anonymous wrote:Yawn. No teacher is actually getting the vaccine and then balking. Made up drama .

This isn’t true. There are teachers in APS who got the shot and are now saying 1) they aren’t comfortable going back until either all family members have the shot because they are afraid they will bring the virus back home or 2) all kids have the shot. (Different people, different positions.)

That sounds reasonable to me. I wouldn't want to bring the virus home to my family, either.

Experts are saying that's highly unlikely that vaccinated people still spread, but they make that caveat just because they are not 100% sure. In any case, if that's how teacher feel then they didn't need to be first to get vaccinated.

As long as the teacher has a choice. The problem is that most people posting here think they can strong-arm teachers into the classroom and I don't think that is going to work. Teachers have legitimate concerns. If I ignored legitimate concerns of my employees then I deserve the push back I get. The same situation exists here. Employees are pushing back for legitimate reasons and no one is listening to them and managing the situation to address the concerns.

Uh, it's January. Obviously the schools are listening to their employees concerns.

Yes, parents would prefer that teachers quit and their kids be in the building being taught by bus drivers. School boards aren't listening to parents.

I think we aren't open in buildings b/c we haven't met the public health metrics.

You think wrong. The health metrics were good in the fall and we weren’t in school.

Fall doesn't matter. The metrics right now matter.

[Anonymous]

A certain contingent is committed to taking down this country... whatever it takes. Beware.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

It really is affecting me, I must say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The angriest person I know wrt the current situation regarding teachers and DL is an ER nurse with two ES children. And I don’t blame her.

No kidding. That’s gross.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

Thank you so much. I needed an adult to intervene. I am being perfectly sincere, btw. I get so upset by all this back and forth viciousness and it starts to buzz in my head.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

We don’t have any guarantee yet for 5 days a week in the fall. I don’t think we can let up till we have that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The angriest person I know wrt the current situation regarding teachers and DL is an ER nurse with two ES children. And I don’t blame her.

No kidding. That’s gross.

Gross? Oh, she is the one who hates teachers so much and says really awful stuff. I don’t blame her for being angry either and I am so sorry about her kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

We don’t have any guarantee yet for 5 days a week in the fall. I don’t think we can let up till we have that.

I am going to say this once more. Get the teachers vaccinated, muzzle the FEA lady - problem solved. Kids who don’t want to come in can get DL from a very select group of teachers, but the VAST majority of teachers come back to the building and teach in person. Maybe people need to sign liability waivers if we can’t do the correct distancing, I don’t know, but I just don’t think it is THAT complicated at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

We don’t have any guarantee yet for 5 days a week in the fall. I don’t think we can let up till we have that.

I am going to say this once more. Get the teachers vaccinated, muzzle the FEA lady - problem solved. Kids who don’t want to come in can get DL from a very select group of teachers, but the VAST majority of teachers come back to the building and teach in person. Maybe people need to sign liability waivers if we can’t do the correct distancing, I don’t know, but I just don’t think it is THAT complicated at this point.

DP, and the FCPS school board (at least) can find a way to make ANYTHING complicated. They spend their entire 7+ hour meetings talking in circles.

[Anonymous]

Most of my teacher friends in Prince William County Public Schools are not getting the vaccine, especially the younger ones as well as the TA's. They are citing that they are worried it could cause problems for them later on with unknown side effects or fertility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

We don’t have any guarantee yet for 5 days a week in the fall. I don’t think we can let up till we have that.

I am going to say this once more. Get the teachers vaccinated, muzzle the FEA lady - problem solved. Kids who don’t want to come in can get DL from a very select group of teachers, but the VAST majority of teachers come back to the building and teach in person. Maybe people need to sign liability waivers if we can’t do the correct distancing, I don’t know, but I just don’t think it is THAT complicated at this point.

DP, and the FCPS school board (at least) can find a way to make ANYTHING complicated. They spend their entire 7+ hour meetings talking in circles.

I think Braband isn’t helping. We need a stronger leader who is not trying to please all stakeholders (thereby making everyone unhappy - you think he is making teachers happy? No, I am not happy. Anyone whom wants to teach cannot be happy with this.). He also can’t come up with a decent and organized plan. It is always some confusing slideshow with so many problems, it just invites our conversation happy SB with all sorts of different holes to point out. I swear to God, my students could come up with a better slideshow and “plan” than he has.

[Anonymous]

I hope all those people that worked so hard to "make Virginia blue" realize that all those moderates in the middle are going to vote red in the next election unless they get their act together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve exercised my opinion by moving three kids to private. I’m unlike teachers I’m motivated to help kids.


If I relied on public tax dollars for my crappy salary and summers off I’d be concerned with the public’s opinion- but maybe this inability to foresee consequences is why you teach instead of do.

This is also deeply unhealthy.
Some of you are just so far gone. It is really sad to think about people existing and thinking this way and thinking it’s okay to talk about human beings like this.

What’s sad is people thinking children, their lives, education and mental health matter so little, if at all. Especially those in a chosen career that is supposedly dedicated to children.

Remote learning is ending soon. You meanwhile have squandered the last year festering in this kind of anger. It’s corrosive . You’re going to still be miserable when this ends because it’s what you’ve gotten used to clearly.

We don’t have any guarantee yet for 5 days a week in the fall. I don’t think we can let up till we have that.

I am going to say this once more. Get the teachers vaccinated, muzzle the FEA lady - problem solved. Kids who don’t want to come in can get DL from a very select group of teachers, but the VAST majority of teachers come back to the building and teach in person. Maybe people need to sign liability waivers if we can’t do the correct distancing, I don’t know, but I just don’t think it is THAT complicated at this point.

DP, and the FCPS school board (at least) can find a way to make ANYTHING complicated. They spend their entire 7+ hour meetings talking in circles.

I think Braband isn’t helping. We need a stronger leader who is not trying to please all stakeholders (thereby making everyone unhappy - you think he is making teachers happy? No, I am not happy. Anyone whom wants to teach cannot be happy with this.). He also can’t come up with a decent and organized plan. It is always some confusing slideshow with so many problems, it just invites our conversation happy SB with all sorts of different holes to point out. I swear to God, my students could come up with a better slideshow and “plan” than he has.

This exercise has to meet many (all?) of the FCPS portrait of a graduate skills - communicator, check; collaborator, check; ethical & global citizen, check; creative & critical thinker, check; goal-directed individual, check (not so sure about resilient...maybe resilient during negotiations with classmates?) . Please go for it. I would love if my kids had this assignment, but my 1st grader's plan (she's shared it with me) is "Have everyone wear masks and do school like normal." Not quite sure if my 3rd grader could get more in depth.

[Anonymous]

Well - one positive aspect of the pandemic and the shut downs.........

The NEA and AFT have revealed themselves for who they are...... concerned about teachers and don't give a crap about students.
Remember this moving forward.