PSA: Fairfax County Parks, Pools and School Facility Status Recap

[Anonymous]

And yet, no one can explain why authorities refuse to enforce the rule. If authorities refuse to enforce it, you people complain about the rule beings broken, please STFU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As of 05/22: https://fairfaxcountyemergency.wpcomstaging.com/2020/05/22/parks-pools-and-school-facility-status-recap/

High school tracks and tennis courts at Fairfax County Public Schools are now open, however playgrounds, basketball courts and athletic fields will remain closed.

However, I've checked with multiple high schools maintenance crews and even the police department located in Dolley Madison and Great Falls yesterday and they confirmed that the football field is part of the high school track. As long as there are less than 10 people playing soccer within a group, that will not be an issue. Please take your kids out to play pick up soccer game with other kids.

I did see people practice on both the softball and baseball fields and the school security patrols said nothing other than "enjoy the nice weather".

I really have no idea why athletic fields are closed and so many other things are open. There are two turf fields located right next to a golf course and driving range. The golf is open but fields are closed. Why?

Why are you looking for answers? There's no good rhyme nor reason for any of this.

CDC have just basically admitted that this thing is not much worse than the 'flu at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html, where they show current best estimate at 0.4% fatality for symptomatic and 35% asymptomatic = 0.26% infection fatality rate compared to bad 'flu year of 0.2%.

So right now all these restrictions are just politicians trying not to look stupid for what they've already done.

But I agree it's very frustrating.

Just take the CDC estimates with a grain of salt. Looking at flu deaths for last 10 years https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html, we are already well past the estimated high of 61,000, so not just your average flu. Especially by the time all is said and done.

Also regarding the CDC estimates:

"As I see it, the 'best estimate' is extremely optimistic, and the 'worst case' scenario is fairly optimistic even as a best estimate. One certainly wants to consider worse scenarios," biologist Carl Bergstrom of the University of Washington told CNN. "By introducing these as the official parameter sets for modeling efforts, CDC is influencing the models produced by federal agencies, but also the broader scientific discourse because there will be some pressure to use the CDC standard parameter sets in modeling papers going forward," he said. "Given that these parameter sets underestimate fatality by a substantial margin compared to current scientific consensus, this is deeply problematic."

Peoples levels of risk tolerance are different. Expecting consistency from our government is foolish. Be informed, be safe

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As of 05/22: https://fairfaxcountyemergency.wpcomstaging.com/2020/05/22/parks-pools-and-school-facility-status-recap/

High school tracks and tennis courts at Fairfax County Public Schools are now open, however playgrounds, basketball courts and athletic fields will remain closed.

However, I've checked with multiple high schools maintenance crews and even the police department located in Dolley Madison and Great Falls yesterday and they confirmed that the football field is part of the high school track. As long as there are less than 10 people playing soccer within a group, that will not be an issue. Please take your kids out to play pick up soccer game with other kids.

I did see people practice on both the softball and baseball fields and the school security patrols said nothing other than "enjoy the nice weather".

I really have no idea why athletic fields are closed and so many other things are open. There are two turf fields located right next to a golf course and driving range. The golf is open but fields are closed. Why?

Why are you looking for answers? There's no good rhyme nor reason for any of this.

CDC have just basically admitted that this thing is not much worse than the 'flu at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html, where they show current best estimate at 0.4% fatality for symptomatic and 35% asymptomatic = 0.26% infection fatality rate compared to bad 'flu year of 0.2%.

So right now all these restrictions are just politicians trying not to look stupid for what they've already done.

But I agree it's very frustrating.

Just take the CDC estimates with a grain of salt. Looking at flu deaths for last 10 years https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html, we are already well past the estimated high of 61,000, so not just your average flu. Especially by the time all is said and done.

Also regarding the CDC estimates:

"As I see it, the 'best estimate' is extremely optimistic, and the 'worst case' scenario is fairly optimistic even as a best estimate. One certainly wants to consider worse scenarios," biologist Carl Bergstrom of the University of Washington told CNN. "By introducing these as the official parameter sets for modeling efforts, CDC is influencing the models produced by federal agencies, but also the broader scientific discourse because there will be some pressure to use the CDC standard parameter sets in modeling papers going forward," he said. "Given that these parameter sets underestimate fatality by a substantial margin compared to current scientific consensus, this is deeply problematic."

Peoples levels of risk tolerance are different. Expecting consistency from our government is foolish. Be informed, be safe

Think the 0.26% is likely in the ballpark, and is in line with what many scientists and universities are suggesting and have been suggesting for a while. Fatalities would still appear higher than the flu because it's more contagious so people are getting it faster. If twice as many people catch it, and its twice as dangerous, then four times as many people will die. However, this would suggest that fatalities in subsequent years would be lower as immunity would have built faster because more people got it quicker. And certainly true that for people in nursing homes the risk is much larger than for the 'flu, whereas for the rest of the population the risk (once caught) seems about 50% worse (so maybe 100-150% worse overall given you are more likely to catch it).

[Anonymous]

Will everything be unlocked/open on Friday?

[Anonymous]

Remember one reason Covid has more fatalities than the flu is no vaccine. If nobody got the flu vaccine each year the numbers of fatalities would be just as high as covid-19.

[Anonymous]

For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

Everybody feels differently, and each should be allowed to make their own decision. I do not think the virus is especially dangerous, but I also think you are perfectly entitled to your view and to act accordingly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

Everybody feels differently, and each should be allowed to make their own decision. I do not think the virus is especially dangerous, but I also think you are perfectly entitled to your view and to act accordingly.

Agreed. Please stay at home if you think you should. Peer pressure is dumb and irrelevant regardless of source. Do what you like and try to tolerate the decisions of others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

Everybody feels differently, and each should be allowed to make their own decision. I do not think the virus is especially dangerous, but I also think you are perfectly entitled to your view and to act accordingly.

Agreed. Please stay at home if you think you should. Peer pressure is dumb and irrelevant regardless of source. Do what you like and try to tolerate the decisions of others.

Yeah, I think peer pressure or "keeping up with the Jones" mentality will be a big part of this. I think a lot of people are going to want to keep their kid home but other kids will find training groups or something and people will not want their kid to fall behind, so they will send their kid out too. There are going to be very difficult decisions for some people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[quote=Anon

The fields are closed for health reason. Obey the spirit of the law for everyone else and be a team player for once in your life.

Why do you feel that obeying senseless laws enacted by panicking fools is being a team player? The fields are closed for a political reason. Obey the spirit of resistance to the tyranny of fools and ignore the laws.

You have posted hundreds of times over the past several weeks, yet your propaganda still has no effect on the virus.

1. I haven't posted hundreds of times. I have posted four times (five if you count this response) on this subject, and only to object in response to other people posting either misleading information or expressing the sentiment that all rules must be followed blindly. You may think I have posted hundreds of times but, while it's possible that all the other messages are posted by a single poster who feels as I do and who has posted hundreds of times, I suspect there are actually rather a lot of people who feel the same way.

2. I have not posted any propaganda.

Believe someone called the police on DC at Thomas Jefferson yesterday. Cop told him he could be on field even though nobody was there. Crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As of 05/22: https://fairfaxcountyemergency.wpcomstaging.com/2020/05/22/parks-pools-and-school-facility-status-recap/

High school tracks and tennis courts at Fairfax County Public Schools are now open, however playgrounds, basketball courts and athletic fields will remain closed.

However, I've checked with multiple high schools maintenance crews and even the police department located in Dolley Madison and Great Falls yesterday and they confirmed that the football field is part of the high school track. As long as there are less than 10 people playing soccer within a group, that will not be an issue. Please take your kids out to play pick up soccer game with other kids.

I did see people practice on both the softball and baseball fields and the school security patrols said nothing other than "enjoy the nice weather".

I really have no idea why athletic fields are closed and so many other things are open. There are two turf fields located right next to a golf course and driving range. The golf is open but fields are closed. Why?

Why are you looking for answers? There's no good rhyme nor reason for any of this.

CDC have just basically admitted that this thing is not much worse than the 'flu at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html, where they show current best estimate at 0.4% fatality for symptomatic and 35% asymptomatic = 0.26% infection fatality rate compared to bad 'flu year of 0.2%.

So right now all these restrictions are just politicians trying not to look stupid for what they've already done.

But I agree it's very frustrating.

Just take the CDC estimates with a grain of salt. Looking at flu deaths for last 10 years https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/past-seasons.html, we are already well past the estimated high of 61,000, so not just your average flu. Especially by the time all is said and done.

Also regarding the CDC estimates:

"As I see it, the 'best estimate' is extremely optimistic, and the 'worst case' scenario is fairly optimistic even as a best estimate. One certainly wants to consider worse scenarios," biologist Carl Bergstrom of the University of Washington told CNN. "By introducing these as the official parameter sets for modeling efforts, CDC is influencing the models produced by federal agencies, but also the broader scientific discourse because there will be some pressure to use the CDC standard parameter sets in modeling papers going forward," he said. "Given that these parameter sets underestimate fatality by a substantial margin compared to current scientific consensus, this is deeply problematic."

Peoples levels of risk tolerance are different. Expecting consistency from our government is foolish. Be informed, be safe

Think the 0.26% is likely in the ballpark, and is in line with what many scientists and universities are suggesting and have been suggesting for a while. Fatalities would still appear higher than the flu because it's more contagious so people are getting it faster. If twice as many people catch it, and its twice as dangerous, then four times as many people will die. However, this would suggest that fatalities in subsequent years would be lower as immunity would have built faster because more people got it quicker. And certainly true that for people in nursing homes the risk is much larger than for the 'flu, whereas for the rest of the population the risk (once caught) seems about 50% worse (so maybe 100-150% worse overall given you are more likely to catch it).

Also, less than 1% of the population is in nursing homes but that is accounting for close to a majority of the deaths. Protect nursing homes and elderly people and you eliminate most of the people getting seriously ill and dying. That's the best you can do. You can't stop people from getting a virus unless you lockdown everything. And that's not feasible long-term. Look at how people are going out now that restrictions are loosening. Sadly, there's a balance between lockdown and fully open that needs to be followed and people need to be responsible. It's not going to stop people from dying. But every single public policy ... driving age, drinking age, speed limits, etc. has a cost-benefit analysis. But we're only counting the coronavirus deaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

You realize your child has greater chance of dying in car accident or lightning strike than covid? Would you stop them from driving or going out in the rain?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will everything be unlocked/open on Friday?

Fields at schools are already unlocked for track use. Field use can start Friday in groups of 10 or fewer. Will be interesting to see how that is enforced. Guessing it will be more than 10 at a lot of places.
https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-reopens-outdoor-athletic-fields-public-use

Phase 2 will allow for permit use on field which would mean some form of practices. Guessing that will be in two weeks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

You realize your child has greater chance of dying in car accident or lightning strike than covid? Would you stop them from driving or going out in the rain?

Next up will be forcing everyone to wear a mask in stores.

If they get away with that then we will all have to install the contact tracing app in order to work / travel / shop etc. and the government will be able to see everywhere you have ever been and everyone you have met.

In order to get away with this, you must all be terrified first.

Don't be terrified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For all you people wanting to go out must have death wish this virus is very real indeed. Soccer is not worth your life or your child's life

You realize your child has greater chance of dying in car accident or lightning strike than covid? Would you stop them from driving or going out in the rain?

Next up will be forcing everyone to wear a mask in stores.

If they get away with that then we will all have to install the contact tracing app in order to work / travel / shop etc. and the government will be able to see everywhere you have ever been and everyone you have met.

In order to get away with this, you must all be terrified first.

Don't be terrified.

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