What is point of not opening Colleges in Fall?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Personally I think it's a money grab from the colleges, nothing more. It costs far more to have students on campus.

Incorrect. University I work at is losing oodles of money from having students at home. Dorms, dining halls, rec center were built using bonds that can't be paid if the students aren't paying for dorms and food (all were refunded). All contracts continue even though no students are there. So distributors, cleaning staff, and landscaping have to be paid. This is not saving our school money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact is, students came back to college campuses from across the country, Europe, and China after Christmas break, when clearly the virus was already circulating, and were there for 2 and a half months and there isn't one report of transmission on a college campus. The risk is just very low not only to get ill from contracting the virus, but even for spreading it, among this age group.

We did actually have a case and transmission on our college campus (in March). However, like most places the health department/school will not release information like that for privacy reasons. The only reason I know about it is because the student involved talked about it with friends and classmates. If you look at the outbreaks tab on the VDH website: https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/ you can see that there have been 8 outbreaks in educational settings. Yes, the numbers are very low, but most VA schools have been closed since the 1st or 2nd week of march.

This is just to say that there are reports of it and you're not going to know where - they won't release that info.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

OP - it's simple. Colleges choosing against on-campus Fall sessions contributes to the liberal media hysteria over this virus during a presidential election year. The media's hope is that the continued hysteria will vote the current president out of office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

OP - it's simple. Colleges choosing against on-campus Fall sessions contributes to the liberal media hysteria over this virus during a presidential election year. The media's hope is that the continued hysteria will vote the current president out of office.

Oh yes, they're willing to shut their universities just to get Trump defeated. Mmmhmm.

[Anonymous]

You all sure are convinced that intl students are the problem. Even if they were, we are clearly past that point.

No one should be allowing US residents into their countries for a good long while.

Colleges don’t want to be the next cruise ships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You only get Covid once. My older daughters school has hardly any breaks. She is planning on coming home for first time at thanksgiving and school starts at end of August.

Her school is trying to offer zero days off and have a longer Xmas break starting at thanksgiving.

By thanksgiving kids are gone three months and the wave is over

Nope.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857379338/5-uss-roosevelt-sailors-test-positive-for-covid-19-again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You only get Covid once. My older daughters school has hardly any breaks. She is planning on coming home for first time at thanksgiving and school starts at end of August.

Her school is trying to offer zero days off and have a longer Xmas break starting at thanksgiving.

By thanksgiving kids are gone three months and the wave is over

how is the wave over without a vaccine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

That small college town that and zero cases back in the spring probably doesn’t have adequate medical facilities to deal with a massive outbreak. Thousands of college students flooding back from all over the country/world is practically guaranteed to spread it like wildfire.

Just like that massive spike we were supposed to see two weeks after Spring Break?

We saw a spike, but it was mostly mitigated because people started social distancing and governors closed down many retail and social gathering activities, college sports shut down, the NBA, NHL and MLB all shut down too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who should be going back to college in Fall. If anything them going back to college is far safer than being home virus wise. I say that as both daughters now have lost their summer jobs. Both are doing Instcart and Doordash. It seems all their friends are in gig economy. So they are in multiple supermarkets and restaurants every day. My one daughter is Mall opens will go back.

On top of that majority of older daughters friends including her are going back to college in Fall if virtual or not. My older daughter has three roomates and a lease. The school nearly all Juniors and Seniors live off campus and apartments are not refunding if no school.

So exactly how does not having a Fall session in person help? My older daughter her small college town had zero cases of COVID when she left to head back to DC area with a lot of cases. I dont see point.

Am I only one?

OP - it's simple. Colleges choosing against on-campus Fall sessions contributes to the liberal media hysteria over this virus during a presidential election year. The media's hope is that the continued hysteria will vote the current president out of office.

So Vladimir Putin cancelled MayDay and Fox News has their employees working from home. Are they in on the hysteria?

[Anonymous]

By and large the point is for the college to avoid having liability for illness and death. If your daughter gets sick and dies from going to the mall while living at home, it’s a tragedy. If she dies at college, it’s a multimillion dollar case of negligence. Better that be on your shoulders than theirs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You only get Covid once. My older daughters school has hardly any breaks. She is planning on coming home for first time at thanksgiving and school starts at end of August.

Her school is trying to offer zero days off and have a longer Xmas break starting at thanksgiving.

By thanksgiving kids are gone three months and the wave is over

Nope.

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/16/857379338/5-uss-roosevelt-sailors-test-positive-for-covid-19-again

Please continue to dig deeper into your research before more fear-mongering:

https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-patients-tested-positive-twice-181548781.html

"Some coronavirus patients have tested positive again up to 82 days after becoming infected, but the South Korean lab found that people who tested "re-positive" were not found to have spread any lingering infection.

Virus samples collected from them could not be grown in culture in the lab, indicating that they were shedding non-infectious or dead virus particles."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No one is forced to have an international room mate. If that is issue just dont allow international students to mix dorm rooms

My daughter has a three female roomates, MD, one NJ, one LI and one in MA. None are international and all live at home. All our between 19-21

They have a four bedroom apt

This virus is everywhere. And there is no solid proof yet that you can't get it more than once. The risk isn't from international students any moreso than from your neighbors. UMCP is in PG county, where we have an arguable hotspot.

[Anonymous]

I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?

Because to date, without mitigation, there is no sign of it abating.

Maybe the other viruses you reference abated because the human race was smarter then than it seems to be right now, in terms of how to isolate and let the virus die out before spreading more, like they did in New Zealand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?

Because to date, without mitigation, there is no sign of it abating.

Maybe the other viruses you reference abated because the human race was smarter then than it seems to be right now, in terms of how to isolate and let the virus die out before spreading more, like they did in New Zealand.

There is mitigation, as there was in past pandemics. And there are definitely signs of it abating, even in countries with minimal mitigation. Some people just refuse to understand science and see potential.