What is point of not opening Colleges in Fall?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


Because to date, without mitigation, there is no sign of it abating.

Maybe the other viruses you reference abated because the human race was smarter then than it seems to be right now, in terms of how to isolate and let the virus die out before spreading more, like they did in New Zealand.


There is mitigation, as there was in past pandemics. And there are definitely signs of it abating, even in countries with minimal mitigation. Some people just refuse to understand science and see potential.

+1. Radio silence in the US on ivermectin, among other things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


In the history of pandemics, it is the second wave that hits the hardest and it is frequently in the fall/winter of the second year. WHich would be this fall/winter for us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


In the history of pandemics, it is the second wave that hits the hardest and it is frequently in the fall/winter of the second year. WHich would be this fall/winter for us.


We are still in the first year.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP, ina world where Memorial Day 2020 looks like this, I’m sure you are not the only one.

https://www.kmov.com/news/watch-packed-pool-party-at-lake-of-the-ozarks-shows-crowd-ignoring-social-distancing-guidelines/article_5de50ce8-9dbb-11ea-bd46-6b8e99107093.html

But most people understand in person college comes with increased risk. This issue is, is the risk worth the pay off?


OP - my point is it is less risk. My daughter would be limited to roommates and class. As opposed to 20 supermarkets a week and her Mall job when reopens. The kids are all working now. At school at least limited


And the dining hall, grocery stores and/or restaurants. Is your daughter never going to go into to for a trip to CVS?


Our mall reopened in our Maryland county and is slammed.

I don't understand why endless teens can hang out on the boardwalk unmasked but can't go to school.

The teen stores (individual brick and mortar) have lines of teens outside of them to enter.
Anonymous
My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


In the history of pandemics, it is the second wave that hits the hardest and it is frequently in the fall/winter of the second year. WHich would be this fall/winter for us.


We are still in the first year.
Fall/Winter/Spring 2019-2020 is the first year, Fall/Winter/Spring 2020/2021 is the second year. Pandemics are worldwide- you count when they start- where ever it’s world that is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


In the history of pandemics, it is the second wave that hits the hardest and it is frequently in the fall/winter of the second year. WHich would be this fall/winter for us.


We are still in the first year.
Fall/Winter/Spring 2019-2020 is the first year, Fall/Winter/Spring 2020/2021 is the second year. Pandemics are worldwide- you count when they start- where ever it’s world that is.


that might make sense if it started more than 6 months ago
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You only get Covid once. My older daughters school has hardly any breaks. She is planning on coming home for first time at thanksgiving and school starts at end of August.

Her school is trying to offer zero days off and have a longer Xmas break starting at thanksgiving.

By thanksgiving kids are gone three months and the wave is over


This is not a likely scenario. How do you know the second wave won’t hit sooner... like in September or October?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.


Statistics say that 240 of them will die.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel like half of you were born yesterday. It’s like you think our current situation has always been and will always be completely unchanged. There has never in the history of the world been a virus that continued on with the same fury for an entire year or more. Why do you think this one will be different? Why are you so absolutely convinced that it will never abate?


In the history of pandemics, it is the second wave that hits the hardest and it is frequently in the fall/winter of the second year. WHich would be this fall/winter for us.


We are still in the first year.
Fall/Winter/Spring 2019-2020 is the first year, Fall/Winter/Spring 2020/2021 is the second year. Pandemics are worldwide- you count when they start- where ever it’s world that is.


that might make sense if it started more than 6 months ago


It started in Oct/Nov 2019. Do the math.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.


Statistics say that 240 of them will die.


Cite please, moron. A death rate of 1% of the entire population, not an infected subset?

Serology studies suggest a mortality rate of 0.1% of all infected people, heavily skewed to an older population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.


Statistics say that 240 of them will die.


Cite please, moron. A death rate of 1% of the entire population, not an infected subset?

Serology studies suggest a mortality rate of 0.1% of all infected people, heavily skewed to an older population.


Citation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.


Statistics say that 240 of them will die.


Cite please, moron. A death rate of 1% of the entire population, not an infected subset?

Serology studies suggest a mortality rate of 0.1% of all infected people, heavily skewed to an older population.


Citation?


For example, https://news.usc.edu/170565/covid-19-antibody-study-coronavirus-infections-los-angeles-county/
It's really unfortunate when science gets infected by politics. Don't think one side has the monopoly on scientific truth. Even better, just ignore people claiming it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My local SEC college just brought back 24,000 workers back on campus to work. This includes cleaners, landscapers, security, professors and admin.


Statistics say that 240 of them will die.


Cite please, moron. A death rate of 1% of the entire population, not an infected subset?

Serology studies suggest a mortality rate of 0.1% of all infected people, heavily skewed to an older population.


Citation?


DP. Yeah I'm not sure those serology studies can be trusted, considering the issue of false positives. The true mortality rate could be much higher than .1% if a significant proportion of the people with positive antibody tests came up positive due to having had a coronavirus other than SARS-CoV-2. Between issues with testing for the virus itself and with the antibody testing, I don't trust anyone who claims we know the true mortality rate.
Anonymous
Fine. Debate the issue on the merits of the science. I was responding to the poster who "knew" the virus would kill 1% of the entire population of returning workers, a figure not envisioned in any of the worse case models.

But, you know, the "party of science" and all that happy horseshit.
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