Off-Campus Apartments Leases especially College Park

[Anonymous]

Also, what if we find a renter who wants to move in, but they can't because the apartment is designated to college students only? Does Maryland law have any thing regarding this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your child isn’t being forced to live at home. Why can’t they stay in the apartment?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I understand and sympathize with your brother's situation, but he should be complaining and so should we. Massive companies are getting 0% interest loans (which they use to pay their high-interest loans so basically free money), small companies get free money to pay rent and employees. Out of tax dollars we pay.

I think you're on that other thread too with a similar argument. To whom does he complain? The landlord and the mortgage company both have rights to their money. He got one of the new payroll protection loans to help pay his employees and I think it helps with the rent somewhat too. So...his is one of those small companies getting what you call "free money" that comes "out of tax dollars we pay." Do you object to the PPP for ALL sizes of firms, then? It's sickening that big companies got federal dollars, I totally agree, but at least now that's all becoming public knowledge.

But if you're also mad about legit small, local companies getting that money too--your priorities are screwed up.

I'm fine with small companies getting help. My problem is regular families not getting any help.

Sure they are - they get $1200 per person!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are paying over $1000 rent for DS's unoccupied room in a 4-bedroom apartment in College Park. Why would we expect not to have to pay out the remainder of our lease? We signed a contract and we will fulfill our legal obligation.

Good, this thread is not for you.

Why isn't it? I'm in the same situation as the OP, but I'm not looking for an excuse to not pay!

This thread is for people that are looking for remedies, not people that are happy to pay.

Remedies is the wrong word. A predicate for a remedy is some sort of wrongdoing, and there's none of that here. You're looking for relief.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Offer to find a new tenant to take over the lease. If you can find someone that will pass the credit check, etc then the landlord might release you from the contract. Alternatively, you can request that they find a new tenant and pay the rent until they find someone new. Until you talk to the landlord you will not know what they are willing to do with regard to negotiating. I am a landlord and have worked with tenants in 3 of my properties regarding the need to leave the lease early. I let one group go one month early (lost that month), offered to find a new tenant for another (they lost their security deposit to pay the last month, but got out of 4 additional months) and gave 1/2 rent for 2 months to the other group. I worked with the tenants to find solutions after they came to me asking for help. Talk to your landlord, be polite and reasonable.

Bottom line, YOU signed the contract for your kid to live off-campus so you signed into an obligation. It is not the landlord's fault this happened and, truthfully, your kid could live in the apartment. UMD did not require off-campus students to leave their properties. You are simply choosing for them not live there. That is your choice, not a requirement.
However, reasonable people respond to requests for assistance. Calling into question the validity of a contract or the fairness will not get you anywhere. Working toward a solution will, but remember you have a contract which is an obligation. Has your employer stopped paying their rent/mortgage on the space even though they are shut down? Of course not....

Employers are getting either free grants and interest-free loans in order to pay for their rent, so not sure what point you are making. I would happily pay the $1000/month if the government was paying it for me.

The landlord is a apartment building company, not an individual person. As a landlord, what would you do if a renter simply moved out and stopped paying rent?

DP, but I would sue. And win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand and sympathize with your brother's situation, but he should be complaining and so should we. Massive companies are getting 0% interest loans (which they use to pay their high-interest loans so basically free money), small companies get free money to pay rent and employees. Out of tax dollars we pay.

I think you're on that other thread too with a similar argument. To whom does he complain? The landlord and the mortgage company both have rights to their money. He got one of the new payroll protection loans to help pay his employees and I think it helps with the rent somewhat too. So...his is one of those small companies getting what you call "free money" that comes "out of tax dollars we pay." Do you object to the PPP for ALL sizes of firms, then? It's sickening that big companies got federal dollars, I totally agree, but at least now that's all becoming public knowledge.

But if you're also mad about legit small, local companies getting that money too--your priorities are screwed up.

I'm fine with small companies getting help. My problem is regular families not getting any help.

Sure they are - they get $1200 per person!

College students don't get the $1200 for independents nor do they get the $500 for under-18 dependents,

[Anonymous]

I did not let my child live off campus. Obviously I had no idea of Coronas but would rather deal with a dorm housing agreement then a lease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are paying over $1000 rent for DS's unoccupied room in a 4-bedroom apartment in College Park. Why would we expect not to have to pay out the remainder of our lease? We signed a contract and we will fulfill our legal obligation.

Good, this thread is not for you.

Why isn't it? I'm in the same situation as the OP, but I'm not looking for an excuse to not pay!

This thread is for people that are looking for remedies, not people that are happy to pay.

Remedies is the wrong word. A predicate for a remedy is some sort of wrongdoing, and there's none of that here. You're looking for relief.

The wrongdoing is the government shutting off schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Offer to find a new tenant to take over the lease. If you can find someone that will pass the credit check, etc then the landlord might release you from the contract. Alternatively, you can request that they find a new tenant and pay the rent until they find someone new. Until you talk to the landlord you will not know what they are willing to do with regard to negotiating. I am a landlord and have worked with tenants in 3 of my properties regarding the need to leave the lease early. I let one group go one month early (lost that month), offered to find a new tenant for another (they lost their security deposit to pay the last month, but got out of 4 additional months) and gave 1/2 rent for 2 months to the other group. I worked with the tenants to find solutions after they came to me asking for help. Talk to your landlord, be polite and reasonable.

Bottom line, YOU signed the contract for your kid to live off-campus so you signed into an obligation. It is not the landlord's fault this happened and, truthfully, your kid could live in the apartment. UMD did not require off-campus students to leave their properties. You are simply choosing for them not live there. That is your choice, not a requirement.
However, reasonable people respond to requests for assistance. Calling into question the validity of a contract or the fairness will not get you anywhere. Working toward a solution will, but remember you have a contract which is an obligation. Has your employer stopped paying their rent/mortgage on the space even though they are shut down? Of course not....

Employers are getting either free grants and interest-free loans in order to pay for their rent, so not sure what point you are making. I would happily pay the $1000/month if the government was paying it for me.

The landlord is a apartment building company, not an individual person. As a landlord, what would you do if a renter simply moved out and stopped paying rent?

DP, but I would sue. And win.

Heavily doubt it, you'd lose more on attorney costs than the winnings and most juries would be far more sympathetic to the renter considering the current conditions.

Most likely you'd settle for half the owed amount to avoid going to court.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand and sympathize with your brother's situation, but he should be complaining and so should we. Massive companies are getting 0% interest loans (which they use to pay their high-interest loans so basically free money), small companies get free money to pay rent and employees. Out of tax dollars we pay.

I think you're on that other thread too with a similar argument. To whom does he complain? The landlord and the mortgage company both have rights to their money. He got one of the new payroll protection loans to help pay his employees and I think it helps with the rent somewhat too. So...his is one of those small companies getting what you call "free money" that comes "out of tax dollars we pay." Do you object to the PPP for ALL sizes of firms, then? It's sickening that big companies got federal dollars, I totally agree, but at least now that's all becoming public knowledge.

But if you're also mad about legit small, local companies getting that money too--your priorities are screwed up.

I'm fine with small companies getting help. My problem is regular families not getting any help.

Sure they are - they get $1200 per person!

College students don't get the $1200 for independents nor do they get the $500 for under-18 dependents,

But the parents do, and they're on the hook for the lease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are paying over $1000 rent for DS's unoccupied room in a 4-bedroom apartment in College Park. Why would we expect not to have to pay out the remainder of our lease? We signed a contract and we will fulfill our legal obligation.

Good, this thread is not for you.

Why isn't it? I'm in the same situation as the OP, but I'm not looking for an excuse to not pay!

This thread is for people that are looking for remedies, not people that are happy to pay.

Remedies is the wrong word. A predicate for a remedy is some sort of wrongdoing, and there's none of that here. You're looking for relief.

The wrongdoing is the government shutting off schools

That has nothing to do with OP's obligation to pay the lease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Offer to find a new tenant to take over the lease. If you can find someone that will pass the credit check, etc then the landlord might release you from the contract. Alternatively, you can request that they find a new tenant and pay the rent until they find someone new. Until you talk to the landlord you will not know what they are willing to do with regard to negotiating. I am a landlord and have worked with tenants in 3 of my properties regarding the need to leave the lease early. I let one group go one month early (lost that month), offered to find a new tenant for another (they lost their security deposit to pay the last month, but got out of 4 additional months) and gave 1/2 rent for 2 months to the other group. I worked with the tenants to find solutions after they came to me asking for help. Talk to your landlord, be polite and reasonable.

Bottom line, YOU signed the contract for your kid to live off-campus so you signed into an obligation. It is not the landlord's fault this happened and, truthfully, your kid could live in the apartment. UMD did not require off-campus students to leave their properties. You are simply choosing for them not live there. That is your choice, not a requirement.
However, reasonable people respond to requests for assistance. Calling into question the validity of a contract or the fairness will not get you anywhere. Working toward a solution will, but remember you have a contract which is an obligation. Has your employer stopped paying their rent/mortgage on the space even though they are shut down? Of course not....

Employers are getting either free grants and interest-free loans in order to pay for their rent, so not sure what point you are making. I would happily pay the $1000/month if the government was paying it for me.

The landlord is a apartment building company, not an individual person. As a landlord, what would you do if a renter simply moved out and stopped paying rent?

DP, but I would sue. And win.

Heavily doubt it, you'd lose more on attorney costs than the winnings and most juries would be far more sympathetic to the renter considering the current conditions.

Most likely you'd settle for half the owed amount to avoid going to court.

This would be in small claims court, where you represent yourself, and which does not have a jury (and even if it was a jury trial, I'd win on summary judgment).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Offer to find a new tenant to take over the lease. If you can find someone that will pass the credit check, etc then the landlord might release you from the contract. Alternatively, you can request that they find a new tenant and pay the rent until they find someone new. Until you talk to the landlord you will not know what they are willing to do with regard to negotiating. I am a landlord and have worked with tenants in 3 of my properties regarding the need to leave the lease early. I let one group go one month early (lost that month), offered to find a new tenant for another (they lost their security deposit to pay the last month, but got out of 4 additional months) and gave 1/2 rent for 2 months to the other group. I worked with the tenants to find solutions after they came to me asking for help. Talk to your landlord, be polite and reasonable.

Bottom line, YOU signed the contract for your kid to live off-campus so you signed into an obligation. It is not the landlord's fault this happened and, truthfully, your kid could live in the apartment. UMD did not require off-campus students to leave their properties. You are simply choosing for them not live there. That is your choice, not a requirement.
However, reasonable people respond to requests for assistance. Calling into question the validity of a contract or the fairness will not get you anywhere. Working toward a solution will, but remember you have a contract which is an obligation. Has your employer stopped paying their rent/mortgage on the space even though they are shut down? Of course not....

Employers are getting either free grants and interest-free loans in order to pay for their rent, so not sure what point you are making. I would happily pay the $1000/month if the government was paying it for me.

The landlord is a apartment building company, not an individual person. As a landlord, what would you do if a renter simply moved out and stopped paying rent?

DP, but I would sue. And win.

Heavily doubt it, you'd lose more on attorney costs than the winnings and most juries would be far more sympathetic to the renter considering the current conditions.

Most likely you'd settle for half the owed amount to avoid going to court.

This would be in small claims court, where you represent yourself, and which does not have a jury (and even if it was a jury trial, I'd win on summary judgment).

Civil court always has right to a jury. You can represent yourself as a unscrupulous landlord suing a 20-something broke college student who can't pay rent because they lost their part-time college job due to the lockdown, over $3000. Try it honey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Offer to find a new tenant to take over the lease. If you can find someone that will pass the credit check, etc then the landlord might release you from the contract. Alternatively, you can request that they find a new tenant and pay the rent until they find someone new. Until you talk to the landlord you will not know what they are willing to do with regard to negotiating. I am a landlord and have worked with tenants in 3 of my properties regarding the need to leave the lease early. I let one group go one month early (lost that month), offered to find a new tenant for another (they lost their security deposit to pay the last month, but got out of 4 additional months) and gave 1/2 rent for 2 months to the other group. I worked with the tenants to find solutions after they came to me asking for help. Talk to your landlord, be polite and reasonable.

Bottom line, YOU signed the contract for your kid to live off-campus so you signed into an obligation. It is not the landlord's fault this happened and, truthfully, your kid could live in the apartment. UMD did not require off-campus students to leave their properties. You are simply choosing for them not live there. That is your choice, not a requirement.
However, reasonable people respond to requests for assistance. Calling into question the validity of a contract or the fairness will not get you anywhere. Working toward a solution will, but remember you have a contract which is an obligation. Has your employer stopped paying their rent/mortgage on the space even though they are shut down? Of course not....

Employers are getting either free grants and interest-free loans in order to pay for their rent, so not sure what point you are making. I would happily pay the $1000/month if the government was paying it for me.

The landlord is a apartment building company, not an individual person. As a landlord, what would you do if a renter simply moved out and stopped paying rent?

DP, but I would sue. And win.

Heavily doubt it, you'd lose more on attorney costs than the winnings and most juries would be far more sympathetic to the renter considering the current conditions.

Most likely you'd settle for half the owed amount to avoid going to court.

This would be in small claims court, where you represent yourself, and which does not have a jury (and even if it was a jury trial, I'd win on summary judgment).

Civil court always has right to a jury. You can represent yourself as a unscrupulous landlord suing a 20-something broke college student who can't pay rent because they lost their part-time college job due to the lockdown, over $3000. Try it honey.

Why am I unscrupulous? Also, the parents are on the lease, not the student, so you sue them. And again - this wins on summary judgment. What would the defenses be? Mom and Dad, who signed the lease, don't want to pay?

You're an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I understand and sympathize with your brother's situation, but he should be complaining and so should we. Massive companies are getting 0% interest loans (which they use to pay their high-interest loans so basically free money), small companies get free money to pay rent and employees. Out of tax dollars we pay.

I think you're on that other thread too with a similar argument. To whom does he complain? The landlord and the mortgage company both have rights to their money. He got one of the new payroll protection loans to help pay his employees and I think it helps with the rent somewhat too. So...his is one of those small companies getting what you call "free money" that comes "out of tax dollars we pay." Do you object to the PPP for ALL sizes of firms, then? It's sickening that big companies got federal dollars, I totally agree, but at least now that's all becoming public knowledge.

But if you're also mad about legit small, local companies getting that money too--your priorities are screwed up.

I'm fine with small companies getting help. My problem is regular families not getting any help.

Sure they are - they get $1200 per person!

College students don't get the $1200 for independents nor do they get the $500 for under-18 dependents,

But the parents do, and they're on the hook for the lease.

Most won't