Off-Campus Apartments Leases especially College Park

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Anonymous wrote:If you can afford tuition, an apartment, and a car at UMD you are not working class by any means

Exactly. Kid would be living at home and commuting if it was a hardship. You signed the lease you pay.

We also made sure to look into cost of living at all of these colleges, freshman year and off campus options for future years. UMD was one of the highest for as little as you get.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm making this thread to see if any parents have found solutions with their building owner i.e. buying off two months of the lease out of the 4 left, etc.

If you aren't in this situation then don't bother posting in this thread.

This is why the landlord has a lease to protect him so he gets his payments.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can afford tuition, an apartment, and a car at UMD you are not working class by any means

Exactly. Kid would be living at home and commuting if it was a hardship. You signed the lease you pay.

We also made sure to look into cost of living at all of these colleges, freshman year and off campus options for future years. UMD was one of the highest for as little as you get.

This is a big reason why I’m glad my daughter decided to go to a college that guarantees on-campus housing all four years. Dealing with a college housing office > dealing with a private landlord.

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Anonymous wrote:I did not let my child live off campus. Obviously I had no idea of Coronas but would rather deal with a dorm housing agreement then a lease.

This is a very, very wise move. Dorm housing is always more flexible than a lease at a professionally managed complex off of the campus.

Understand the apartment owners know that generally the families with more money rent the off site apartments.

Many on campus dorms are a little rough around the edges and not up to standards for many parents. The campus dorm housing departments will work with you financially if your
kid attempts suicide, gets a serious disease, etc while on campus and needs to leave early.

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Anonymous wrote:If you can afford tuition, an apartment, and a car at UMD you are not working class by any means

Exactly. Kid would be living at home and commuting if it was a hardship. You signed the lease you pay.

We also made sure to look into cost of living at all of these colleges, freshman year and off campus options for future years. UMD was one of the highest for as little as you get.

This is a big reason why I’m glad my daughter decided to go to a college that guarantees on-campus housing all four years. Dealing with a college housing office > dealing with a private landlord.

This.

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Why am I unscrupulous? Also, the parents are on the lease, not the student, so you sue them. And again - this wins on summary judgment. What would the defenses be? Mom and Dad, who signed the lease, don't want to pay?

You're an idiot.

You seem to have an anger problem - I would try to manage that lady.

No one cares whether you are being unscrupulous or not, you will look unscrupulous and greedy to the jury - and self-centered to boot. Again, you are going to look like you are suing two hard-working parents to make money off your gross, dilapidated rental property. Get a job lady, rent-seeking is not a retirement strategy. Also this is Prince George's County so you really think the jury would take a look at you, take a look at the renter and their working-class parents, and rule for you during a global pandemic when 22 million people are unemployed? Lmao.

The limit for small claims court in Maryland is $5000, and again, there's no jury there. And there is no right to a jury trial in Maryland for $5000.

Also, even if there was a right to a jury trial, are you familiar with the concept of summary judgment? If not, you really should familiarize yourself with it. It means that even if all the facts are exactly as the defendant states they are, as a matter of law, he or she still loses. That is the case here. The college closed, my kid moved home, he lost his part-time job - none of that is relevant. There is a contract, and the landlord is entitled to enforce it. The case never sees a jury.

And it was unkind of me to point out that you are an idiot. I'm sorry. Rather, you don't understand the legal process here, and are insisting that things matter that really wouldn't.

Lady, I'm an attorney, and what you are saying is entirely bunk. If a renter asks for a jury trial, they will get one. Summary judgement motion will be denied immediately based on extenuating circumstances, specifically the global pandemic.

Again, not only do you seem to have anger-management issues, you sound self-centered. Go ahead and try representing yourself in court. You're a perfect foil to a sympathetic defendant.

OK, I'll play. On what grounds would the summary judgment motion be denied again? Extenuating circumstances? If you're so sure of that, please provide a cite.

[In case you didn't pick up on it, I'm a lawyer too. And you really don't know what you are talking about.]

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Anonymous wrote:We are paying over $1000 rent for DS's unoccupied room in a 4-bedroom apartment in College Park. Why would we expect not to have to pay out the remainder of our lease? We signed a contract and we will fulfill our legal obligation.

Good, this thread is not for you.

Why isn't it? I'm in the same situation as the OP, but I'm not looking for an excuse to not pay!

This thread is for people that are looking for remedies, not people that are happy to pay.

Remedies is the wrong word. A predicate for a remedy is some sort of wrongdoing, and there's none of that here. You're looking for relief.

The wrongdoing is the government shutting off schools

That has nothing to do with OP's obligation to pay the lease.

Yes it does. People lease places near a college with the assumption college will provide a service. They are not providing the service and the apartment is useless and more dangerous in many situations.

This may be a good argument if you are in a college residence. But OP's kid is not. He entered into a lease with a private landlord, who is providing exactly the service he contracted to provide - a place to live. And the apartment is not useless - it can be used as a place to live. It's exactly the same as any other residential lease. And while evictions have been put on hold, there is absolutely nothing that changes the underlying obligations of the lease.

It doesn't matter. He entered a contract with a college to have on site classes and to do that he had to rent an apartment. Since the college did not deliver, they caused this family to take on unneeded expenses. They are receiving millions of dollars from the govt to make things right and they should make things right.

I don't think this is up to the leasing agent to make right, it's up to the colleges.

DP.

"He entered into a contract with a college to have on site classes...": OK. I doubt that "contract" actually stipulated "on site" in writing but let's figure that was everyone's assumption including the college's. Fair enough.

"...and to do that he had to rent an apartment." No, he did not "have" to rent an apartment. For all a college knows, if a student is not in campus housing, that student could be living in an apartment or at home with parents or with other relatives or a spouse or sleeping in his car (a situation in which some indigent students actually find themselves in some expensive parts of the country even in non-virus times, sadly). The college provides classes. Unless you are paying room fees TO the college, it does not owe you housing, or payment for housing you choose to rent off campus. What part of "OFF campus"escapes you?

Trying to make this something for which the college should pay is so massively self-centered and legally wrong it's boggling.

College does not care where student lives. We have college students living in vans in my town. Again, college does not care.

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Anonymous wrote:This post has fallen off the rails and gone crazy.

If you signed a contract, you have to honor it. If you can't, or won't, there may be legal repercussions.

Sorry life is tough. We can't all pass the buck.

Fortunately for me, we were overpaying for a campus apartment, and so we don't need to worry about this.

During a national emergency certain "contacts" are not legal anymore. For example, you don't have to pay the rent, you can just stop paying and they can not evict you. So no... the argument that "you signed a contract" does not hold.

Just like you signed a contract with credit card and now they are going to stop interest from accruing.

This is why we pay taxes, so during a time of need ... especially for those that have contributed their whole life... there are protections.

Good lord. You're correct, evictions in many states have been paused - but OP's kid wasn't evicted. That does not mean that rent has been forgiven. It still is owed.

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Why am I unscrupulous? Also, the parents are on the lease, not the student, so you sue them. And again - this wins on summary judgment. What would the defenses be? Mom and Dad, who signed the lease, don't want to pay?

You're an idiot.

You seem to have an anger problem - I would try to manage that lady.

No one cares whether you are being unscrupulous or not, you will look unscrupulous and greedy to the jury - and self-centered to boot. Again, you are going to look like you are suing two hard-working parents to make money off your gross, dilapidated rental property. Get a job lady, rent-seeking is not a retirement strategy. Also this is Prince George's County so you really think the jury would take a look at you, take a look at the renter and their working-class parents, and rule for you during a global pandemic when 22 million people are unemployed? Lmao.

The limit for small claims court in Maryland is $5000, and again, there's no jury there. And there is no right to a jury trial in Maryland for $5000.

Also, even if there was a right to a jury trial, are you familiar with the concept of summary judgment? If not, you really should familiarize yourself with it. It means that even if all the facts are exactly as the defendant states they are, as a matter of law, he or she still loses. That is the case here. The college closed, my kid moved home, he lost his part-time job - none of that is relevant. There is a contract, and the landlord is entitled to enforce it. The case never sees a jury.

And it was unkind of me to point out that you are an idiot. I'm sorry. Rather, you don't understand the legal process here, and are insisting that things matter that really wouldn't.

Lady, I'm an attorney, and what you are saying is entirely bunk. If a renter asks for a jury trial, they will get one. Summary judgement motion will be denied immediately based on extenuating circumstances, specifically the global pandemic.

Again, not only do you seem to have anger-management issues, you sound self-centered. Go ahead and try representing yourself in court. You're a perfect foil to a sympathetic defendant.

Oh, yes, the "extenuating circumstances" contractual exception. I am not familiar with that - perhaps you could explain how it works? And what facts would be in dispute?

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Anonymous wrote:PP This thread is literally 3 parents discussion what they remedies they can undertake and 5 pages of other shrills complaining about OP daring to discuss this topic. Now stop derailing this thread. Landlords are a poison on this country.

Someone else said something similar about landlords. I can't really recall now who it was...

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Anonymous wrote:PP Asking for relief for individuals during a national emergency after paying 40%+ taxes for 40 years is super weird, in America.

No, it’s the calling others “cat ladies” if they disagree with you or speculating that they have terrible marriages just because they disagree with you that is weird. Normal people don’t do that.

Normal people don't try to shame OP as being 'greedy' because she only asked how other parents are managing during a pandemic. Cat ladies do try to shame, though.

Cat lady is such a stupid, sexist insult.

Crying sexism because someone criticized you for grotesque behavior, as expected.

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Anonymous wrote:PP Asking for relief for individuals during a national emergency after paying 40%+ taxes for 40 years is super weird, in America.

A crash course in how the real world works can smack you in the face when you least expect it. *shrug*

Not the real world, only the US.

[Anonymous]

Is the apartment ''affiliate'' housing or actual off campus housing? The Edge is one kind in the northeast. If its affiliate you may have some luck

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Anonymous wrote:If you can afford tuition, an apartment, and a car at UMD you are not working class by any means

Exactly. Kid would be living at home and commuting if it was a hardship. You signed the lease you pay.

We also made sure to look into cost of living at all of these colleges, freshman year and off campus options for future years. UMD was one of the highest for as little as you get.

Are you an idiot? Do you think Kids should be commuting 1 hour 30 minutes every day to campus?

Again, you have nothing to contribute to this thread considering you are not in this issue. Get out of the thread and back to your cats, idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the apartment ''affiliate'' housing or actual off campus housing? The Edge is one kind in the northeast. If its affiliate you may have some luck

It's a private student-only apartment building that receives tax-breaks for being student-only.