Why people care about redistricting SAT scores

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Anonymous wrote:Redlining kept black people out of white neighborhoods for decades. White schools were better. White people continued to buy in white neighborhoods and since white people had the money, prices went up there the most. Most white people dont want to live in a formerly redlined mostly black neighborhood. Since the white schools got more resources, white kids did better. They had the wealth and could afford the outside help for their kids. Now today there is a history of better performance in traditionally white neighborhoods that keeps the middle class and wealthy moving there.

First, the resources in all MCPS schools are allocated using the same formula, with extra funding for schools with more FARM students. The ‘good’ schools have less resources than the not so good schools.
Second, it is human nature that parents want to find a neighborhood that is safe. Please notice where UMC and MC AA families live. They don't live in NE or SE DC. Most of UMC AA families in DC live in NW.. Will you accuse them racists sts?

The white people who don't want to mingle with poor black and brown people are racists.

[Anonymous]

The reason AA are not as educated as white people is that they were kicked down every single time they tried to get up. Still are, by liberal dcum apparently. As are Hispanic people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason AA are not as educated as white people is that they were kicked down every single time they tried to get up. Still are, by liberal dcum apparently. As are Hispanic people.

but mostly by white-nationalists AKA the GOP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason AA are not as educated as white people is that they were kicked down every single time they tried to get up. Still are, by liberal dcum apparently. As are Hispanic people.

Very true. Just look at how amazingly people of African descent are doing outside the US. The difference is astounding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason AA are not as educated as white people is that they were kicked down every single time they tried to get up. Still are, by liberal dcum apparently. As are Hispanic people.

but mostly by white-nationalists AKA the GOP

This is bizarre.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reason AA are not as educated as white people is that they were kicked down every single time they tried to get up. Still are, by liberal dcum apparently. As are Hispanic people.

Very true. Just look at how amazingly people of African descent are doing outside the US. The difference is astounding.

And inside the U.S.

People that believe that AAs have been kicked down every single time they tried to get up disrespect the hard work and success of kids who integrated schools in the 60s and 70s and their middle class parents. Kids who actually faced real discrimination and went on to college and grad school and professions. They are successful now.

Another issue is that those white people who you are insulting were the ones who created affirmative action and funded trillions of dollars to try to alleviate poverty and send AA kids to college. Statements like yours are totally unhelpful to our society. If white people had wanted to keep AAs down, they had all of the power and money and could have done it, but obviously that is not what the majority of people wanted. The vast majority of people are good hearted. No systemic racism is holding anyone down. Only low expectations and dysfunctional city/school management and lack of fathers in the home.

[Anonymous]

You don't do well on any standardized test if you 1) can't read and interpret text (literary and informational) at a high level and 2) aren't quick at math. Kids who don't know their multiplication tables by heart are at a disadvantage.

So while families in upper brackets can enrich at home, schooling is STILL important.

Are many of you ASSuming that parents have been homeschooling all the while their kids have attended school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You misinterpret the data about SAT scores. SAT scores are not reflective of quality of school teaching, nor are they linked to community or school average income level (as reflected by FARMS rate).

SAT scores *are* highly correlated to the family income of the student. The wealthier your family, the more likely you are to do well on the SAT. This is because wealthy families generally access private tutoring for SAT/ACT and class support. Particularly in HS, many students are getting tutors to make up for poor classroom teaching. Wealthy families also access more enrichment activities, etc., for their kids.

They're much more highly correlated to the educational attainment of the parents. When this is added into the mix, SES influence drops almost to zero. I'd bet if you were able to add parental IQ, educational attainment would in turn become much less relevant.

OP I agree that there is at least a grain in truth in this. Then why are we trying to move kids around again if the actual impact is almost entirely related to the parents and not the school again.

1. because it's not just about SAT scores
2. because schools are overcrowded and boundaries need to be redrawn
3. because schools with high FARMS rate have issues that are difficult to address with limited resources
4. because kids of all backgrounds benefit from being exposed to diversity

The above plus you apply to college with your own individual SAT score (big fish/small pond, etc) are really all that needs to be said on this topic. I think most parents flipping out have never set foot in some of the schools they are afraid of. Maybe MCPS should start putting on tours.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest, OP.

When your kid applies to college, they use their own, individual SAT score. They don't apply to college with their high school's average SAT score.

Ok really slowly so you can understand

Would you rather have your kid grow up and be around kids who score 900 on SATs or 1400 on SATs get it

It's about the environment, you want an environment with a higher performing cohort

Ok so which one is your kids in? That's the one I want my kids to stay away from. Your willful ignorance may rub off

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Give it a rest, OP.

When your kid applies to college, they use their own, individual SAT score. They don't apply to college with their high school's average SAT score.

Ok really slowly so you can understand

Would you rather have your kid grow up and be around kids who score 900 on SATs or 1400 on SATs get it

It's about the environment, you want an environment with a higher performing cohort

Ok so which one is your kids in? That's the one I want my kids to stay away from. Your willful ignorance may rub off

If all you care about is a high-achieving cohort, you can find that at any MCPS high-school.

The difference between a W and some other random MCPS school is an extra section of AP English.

Test averages a reflection of the school's affluence or lack thereof (FARMS). Although the later will bring down an average, it doesn't affect the former in any meaningful way.

[Anonymous]

OP I love your post. Redistricting SAT scores- I'd laugh out loud except I want to cry because it's what they are doing but it impacts me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP I love your post. Redistricting SAT scores- I'd laugh out loud except I want to cry because it's what they are doing but it impacts me.

OP here congrats only took 4 pages but someone finally got it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP I love your post. Redistricting SAT scores- I'd laugh out loud except I want to cry because it's what they are doing but it impacts me.

It only impacts you if your house is so crappy that the only way you can justify the asking price is by convincing someone stupid that their child can get into HYPS if they are zoned for your HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP I love your post. Redistricting SAT scores- I'd laugh out loud except I want to cry because it's what they are doing but it impacts me.

It only impacts you if your house is so crappy that the only way you can justify the asking price is by convincing someone stupid that their child can get into HYPS if they are zoned for your HS.

Oh snap

[Anonymous]

Many of the high FARMS schools in this area are also home schools for very well educated, high income parents. Silver Spring is home to many of the NIH, FDA scientists, college professors, and fed attorneys etc. These jobs even with two parents working pay well but maybe not well enough for a 1.2 million dollar home. As long as your kid has a cohort of high performers, which many in the DCC do, it's not that big of a deal that there are kids in other tracks in the school that have lower scores are who are not college bound. These are not the kids in the AP classes etc.