Nations Capital Cup

Anonymous
look to see Mclean to win over U12 group
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:final for U12


Loudoun vs Mclean

Winner: Loudoun


I would have thought they would have put Arlington and Loudoun (the two strongest teams in the field) on other sides of the bracket. But my guess is they will play two games and then A1 will play B2 and B1 will play A2 in the semis with the winner of each moving on to a championship.

I think that matters because I've seen lots of tournaments where two closely matched teams play twice, and it is almost always a split decision, so the order in which you play matters for who ends up champion.

If they do play A1 v B2 and B1 v A2, I am going to guess Loudoun plays Calvert and Arlington plays McLean with Loudoun meeting Arlington in the final, which I think is a pick'em given that it will be the second meeting of the two...


It’s a pretty mismatch tournament. Looks like one top flight team Loudoun, two second/third flight teams Arlington and McLean and a bunch of lower flight teams in the top flight. The tournament seems to think McLean is better vs Arlington. Both did not do well in their last tournament. The results will be interesting with McLean having the most to gain.

Why would Loudoun, McLean and Arlington play this tournament? There are better tournaments in November. McLean and Arlington need points for Jeff Cup placement. You will not get many points here.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:final for U12


Loudoun vs Mclean

Winner: Loudoun


I would have thought they would have put Arlington and Loudoun (the two strongest teams in the field) on other sides of the bracket. But my guess is they will play two games and then A1 will play B2 and B1 will play A2 in the semis with the winner of each moving on to a championship.

I think that matters because I've seen lots of tournaments where two closely matched teams play twice, and it is almost always a split decision, so the order in which you play matters for who ends up champion.

If they do play A1 v B2 and B1 v A2, I am going to guess Loudoun plays Calvert and Arlington plays McLean with Loudoun meeting Arlington in the final, which I think is a pick'em given that it will be the second meeting of the two...


It’s a pretty mismatch tournament. Looks like one top flight team Loudoun, two second/third flight teams Arlington and McLean and a bunch of lower flight teams in the top flight. The tournament seems to think McLean is better vs Arlington. Both did not do well in their last tournament. The results will be interesting with McLean having the most to gain.

Why would Loudoun, McLean and Arlington play this tournament? There are better tournaments in November. McLean and Arlington need points for Jeff Cup placement. You will not get many points here.



McLean is hosting the tournament, which is probably why they are playing it, and probably also why they loaded the biggest competition on the other side of the bracket.
Anonymous
FPYCparent wrote:I'm revamping my 2008s Girls spreadsheet (hopefully making future updates easier), but it looks like the top Calvert team and Coppermine should be swapped in the U12 group.

Coppermine: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2134559
Calvert: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2135471

Looking at GotSoccer, it seems that Calvert got a ton of points in August for beating two SYA teams (one playing up) and the second SAC team.

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=72003&GroupID=829035

Without those points, Coppermine may be the better team. They are playing two divisions higher than Calvert (USYS U12 vs EDP Premier III).

Everything else looks OK for the age group.



no I see something wrong why is LMVSC that low? They were a pretty good damn team. They fell off hard I see.
Anonymous
Are boys brackets out?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FPYCparent wrote:I'm revamping my 2008s Girls spreadsheet (hopefully making future updates easier), but it looks like the top Calvert team and Coppermine should be swapped in the U12 group.

Coppermine: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2134559
Calvert: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2135471

Looking at GotSoccer, it seems that Calvert got a ton of points in August for beating two SYA teams (one playing up) and the second SAC team.

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=72003&GroupID=829035

Without those points, Coppermine may be the better team. They are playing two divisions higher than Calvert (USYS U12 vs EDP Premier III).

Everything else looks OK for the age group.


LMVSC was a very good team last year, but all the quality players moved to SYC with their coach....

They will be lucky to win a game this year.

no I see something wrong why is LMVSC that low? They were a pretty good damn team. They fell off hard I see.
Anonymous
does it say how much points the tournament is? I have to agree this seems like a desperate attempt Arlington to try to get points for Jeff Cup
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:final for U12


Loudoun vs Mclean

Winner: Loudoun


I would have thought they would have put Arlington and Loudoun (the two strongest teams in the field) on other sides of the bracket. But my guess is they will play two games and then A1 will play B2 and B1 will play A2 in the semis with the winner of each moving on to a championship.

I think that matters because I've seen lots of tournaments where two closely matched teams play twice, and it is almost always a split decision, so the order in which you play matters for who ends up champion.

If they do play A1 v B2 and B1 v A2, I am going to guess Loudoun plays Calvert and Arlington plays McLean with Loudoun meeting Arlington in the final, which I think is a pick'em given that it will be the second meeting of the two...


It’s a pretty mismatch tournament. Looks like one top flight team Loudoun, two second/third flight teams Arlington and McLean and a bunch of lower flight teams in the top flight. The tournament seems to think McLean is better vs Arlington. Both did not do well in their last tournament. The results will be interesting with McLean having the most to gain.

Why would Loudoun, McLean and Arlington play this tournament? There are better tournaments in November. McLean and Arlington need points for Jeff Cup placement. You will not get many points here.



McLean is hosting the tournament, which is probably why they are playing it, and probably also why they loaded the biggest competition on the other side of the bracket.


Okay that explains its. I guess Loudoun and Arlington are helping McLean out? Why did those two not bring their lower teams to the tournament?
Anonymous
FPYCparent wrote:
no I see something wrong why is LMVSC that low? They were a pretty good damn team. They fell off hard I see.


If I am not mistaken, the original LMVSC Red is now SYC Blue (playing in USYS/EDP).

The new LMVSC Red is the old White team.



this is true
Anonymous
FPYCparent wrote:I'm revamping my 2008s Girls spreadsheet (hopefully making future updates easier), but it looks like the top Calvert team and Coppermine should be swapped in the U12 group.

Coppermine: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2134559
Calvert: https://youthsoccerrankings.us/team.html?teamId=2135471

Looking at GotSoccer, it seems that Calvert got a ton of points in August for beating two SYA teams (one playing up) and the second SAC team.

http://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/event.aspx?EventID=72003&GroupID=829035

Without those points, Coppermine may be the better team. They are playing two divisions higher than Calvert (USYS U12 vs EDP Premier III).

Everything else looks OK for the age group.


I'm glad someone is paying attention to how flimsy these Got Soccer ranking are. Loudoun gets 2500 points for winning the ASIST tournament, and Calvert get 2100 for beating an under-age team and a B team....

Why do tournament directors use these rankings when they are so obviously flawed.
Anonymous
If Mclean is hosting why are the boys games being played at Embrey mill park in Stafford ?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If Mclean is hosting why are the boys games being played at Embrey mill park in Stafford ?


Can you provide link to this info?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:final for U12


Loudoun vs Mclean

Winner: Loudoun


I would have thought they would have put Arlington and Loudoun (the two strongest teams in the field) on other sides of the bracket. But my guess is they will play two games and then A1 will play B2 and B1 will play A2 in the semis with the winner of each moving on to a championship.

I think that matters because I've seen lots of tournaments where two closely matched teams play twice, and it is almost always a split decision, so the order in which you play matters for who ends up champion.

If they do play A1 v B2 and B1 v A2, I am going to guess Loudoun plays Calvert and Arlington plays McLean with Loudoun meeting Arlington in the final, which I think is a pick'em given that it will be the second meeting of the two...


It’s a pretty mismatch tournament. Looks like one top flight team Loudoun, two second/third flight teams Arlington and McLean and a bunch of lower flight teams in the top flight. The tournament seems to think McLean is better vs Arlington. Both did not do well in their last tournament. The results will be interesting with McLean having the most to gain.

Why would Loudoun, McLean and Arlington play this tournament? There are better tournaments in November. McLean and Arlington need points for Jeff Cup placement. You will not get many points here.



McLean is hosting the tournament, which is probably why they are playing it, and probably also why they loaded the biggest competition on the other side of the bracket.


Okay that explains its. I guess Loudoun and Arlington are helping McLean out? Why did those two not bring their lower teams to the tournament?


Makes no sense. There's much better competition at the BPC. Maybe its Loudoun, Arlington, and Mclean's best chance to win a tourney. All 3 are excellent teams and all stand a good chance to win at BPC also. Please don't rehash the field situation at BPC. All the games are on turf this year.
Anonymous
Mclean is hosting, so wouldn't they use their own fields instead of pay $$$ to rent elsewhere?
Anonymous
Decent diversity in the oldest age groups
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