DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Because they replace car trips.

Can you provide data on that? Do numbers reflect reduction in driving? Because there isn't anything that really points to this claim. They're for people goofing off or people who don't want to walk .7 miles anymore. They're WORSE for the environment.

I used one to go 3 mi round trip and needed to be back in an hour. If hadn’t found one, would have Uber.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

LOL no, no they don't. Been on the Mt. Vernon Trail much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Because they replace car trips.

Can you provide data on that? Do numbers reflect reduction in driving? Because there isn't anything that really points to this claim. They're for people goofing off or people who don't want to walk .7 miles anymore. They're WORSE for the environment.

https://www.curbed.com/2018/7/24/17607698/electric-scooter-bird-lime-spin-adoption-transit

Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

[Anonymous]

Wow, the haters have such great points. Let’s all just get back in our cars and drive everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Can we make it law that you have to ride that thing in traffic that it must be with the flow of traffic?

Saw a family (mom, dad, ~8 year old) on three scooters riding against traffic in Arlington, not even using the bike lane, but in the middle of the road, while cars avoided them. The mom crossed into the right turn lane and nearly collided with a taxi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

LOL no, no they don't. Been on the Mt. Vernon Trail much?

Is the Mt. Vernon Trail in DC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we make it law that you have to ride that thing in traffic that it must be with the flow of traffic?

Saw a family (mom, dad, ~8 year old) on three scooters riding against traffic in Arlington, not even using the bike lane, but in the middle of the road, while cars avoided them. The mom crossed into the right turn lane and nearly collided with a taxi.

I saw a pair of riders turn left on red in Old Town. But we don't need a law to fix that self limiting behavior. Just Darwin.

[Anonymous]

Listening to Nashville's mayor just now in an interview on NPR, I can see why cities should consider banning them 'til further safety precautions are put in place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

Here's how you don't trip over a scooter.
GET OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN PHONE AND LOOK UP ONCE IN A WHILE.
Is that so difficult?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

Here's what I do when I encounter in a scooter in the sidewalk where it might block people: I pick it up and move it out of the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

Who's going to regulate car speed?

[Anonymous]

Do they really need to be replaced every three months as PP said? If so, that doesn’t seem very environmentally friendly. I’d like to see data on that.

Otherwise, it seems like another great idea that people are ruining because a large portion of people are just inconsiderate narccisists, like the people that dump the scooters mid sidewalk to block wheelchairs and the disabled; speed down pedestrian sidewalks and knock people over; or drive down the middle of the street going against traffic. It’s sad when we have to legislate to guard against people just being selfish jerks.