DC Scooter Ban! Members of the D.C. Council introduced a bill Tuesday that would ban....

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Here's what I do when I encounter in a scooter in the sidewalk where it might block people: I pick it up and move it out of the way.

and if I stopped to pick up every piece of trash that someone could have easily deposited in the trash can rather than the sidewalk, I'd never to get work on time.

Again, just have a place for them to be "stored" between uses. society is lazy. toss trash out the windows, drop their dockless bike and dockless scooter where ever they want, since its not their responsibility, someone will come along and clean up behind them. is that really the way we want to live...

You: It's bad when scooters block people's way, but when I encounter a scooter blocking people's way, I refuse to do anything about it, because I have places to go!

I move the scooter into the gutter.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

We live in Northwest Washington, which has streams and wetlands and is not the inner city. Who exactly removes these discarded scooters from parks and trails? The National Park Service budget has been cut and our NPS and DC parks are under maintained as they are.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

We live in Northwest Washington, which has streams and wetlands and is not the inner city. Who exactly removes these discarded scooters from parks and trails? The National Park Service budget has been cut and our NPS and DC parks are under maintained as they are.

Next time you see a scooter in a stream or wetland in NW take a picture of it and post it so us skeptical folks can maybe buy that crap.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love for someone to explain to me how on earth these things are "green" or environmentally friendly. They're mass produced China crap, cheaply made, left everywhere like litter, and mostly used for fun. And driven around in big gas guzzling, illegally parked vans charging them.

People say they use them for the "last mile" - you know what's "green" - WALKING. Just walk that extra .7 mile. Sheesh.

Aside from the vans that transport them you failed to name one thing about the scooters themselves that are environmentally harmful.

Clearly you don't live in a place where these things have been dropped, otherwise you would have seen them in rivers, streams, wetlands, parks, and trails -- totally discarded and falling apart. Batteries soaking into the soil and waters.

No I live in the friggin city.
You know where there's lots of concrete not rivers or streams or wetlands.
And as for parks and trails - they get picked up and put back into service how is that harmful?

We live in Northwest Washington, which has streams and wetlands and is not the inner city. Who exactly removes these discarded scooters from parks and trails? The National Park Service budget has been cut and our NPS and DC parks are under maintained as they are.

Next time you see a scooter in a stream or wetland in NW take a picture of it and post it so us skeptical folks can maybe buy that crap.

And then remove it.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the dumb people riding them with their kids on them at the same time? With neither wearing a helmet? Crazy dangerous, those things weren’t built for two people.

The best is when you are walking and one comes up behind you “ding ding ding ding ding” like I’m supposed to jump out of the way of you on an electric scooter on the side walk? Nope. Get off and walk the thing around pedestrians.

I walk 7+ miles a day to and from work, electric scooters are a menace.

Unless you're walking exclusively on off-road trails, electric scooters are a nuisance. Cars are a menace.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it is time to paint a line on the sidewalk dividing it into two lanes like street and allow the use of the scooter only in one of them so pedestrians would keep half of the sidewalk to themselves knowing they are safe from the scooter menace?

Also banning the scooter ride on crowded sidewalks and making users to walk with them pass the crowds.

Omg you have to be kidding. If you are going to take public travel space from any mode of transport take it from car, not pedestrians. Look at eg U street- there are four lanes for cars to travel and two lanes for cars to park and some areas of the sidewalk are so narrow that wheelchairs don’t fit through. Just end free street parking for cars and five that to bikes and scooters and you have major transport problems solved.

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Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

Here's what I do when I encounter in a scooter in the sidewalk where it might block people: I pick it up and move it out of the way.

So do I. But you know that not everyone is able to pick them up - they can be quite heavy for many people.

I wouldn't be so against the scooters if they had stations where you picked them up and left them. As it is now, they're just junk and toy littering.

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They should just be parked on the street instead of the sidewalk- problem solved. A car for one person takes up the space of what, four or five scooters? No reason to continue to keep valuable road space jsut for cars.

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Anonymous wrote: I’d like to see helmets and some way of regulating them in public areas, especially on the mall. It’s a real pain in the ass when toursists are trying to figure out how to use them and wobbling all over the place. Also I’ve seen a lot of people bite it in crosswalks. Falling over the handlebars

+1 to helmets
Why is our council not addressing this

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Anonymous wrote:Scooters should be mandated to have collision avoidance/automatic braking.

Cars, too. In fact, let's start with cars. And speed governors, while we're at it.

Scooters are replaced every three months (they don’t last long), and a city can probably strong arm a scooter rental company but not car manufacturers.

Different scope of problem.

Also, a scooter stopping suddenly on sidewalk or bike lane not likely an issue; a car stopping suddenly on freeway would be disaster. So cars require more mature logic, which isn’t there yet.

When was the last time you checked? Most high end cars come with it already.

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Can you provide data to support your claim that scooters are for people who are goofing off or people who don't want to walk 0.7 miles (15 minutes) but would do so if there weren't scooters)?

just visit any DC college campus. 200 yard walk, if thereis a scooter in the sidewalk, the student will grab it, rid up the hill or across the campus, and the leave it on the sidewalk for the next person to trip over.

my biggest gripe isn't the scooters but how they end up strewn all over the place.

while the DC ruls are great, but whos going to regulate the scooter speed Are cops going to be shooting radar guns at them... how are they going to enforce the rules. DC police can't get their own shit together let alone thousands of scooters...

Here's what I do when I encounter in a scooter in the sidewalk where it might block people: I pick it up and move it out of the way.

So do I. But you know that not everyone is able to pick them up - they can be quite heavy for many people.

I wouldn't be so against the scooters if they had stations where you picked them up and left them. As it is now, they're just junk and toy littering.

+1

They should just be parked on the street instead of the sidewalk- problem solved. A car for one person takes up the space of what, four or five scooters? No reason to continue to keep valuable road space jsut for cars.

Yup. We need to stop trying to cram everyone who isn't in a car in the same narrow space. Reallocate some of the roadway away from cars.

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Anonymous wrote: I’d like to see helmets and some way of regulating them in public areas, especially on the mall. It’s a real pain in the ass when toursists are trying to figure out how to use them and wobbling all over the place. Also I’ve seen a lot of people bite it in crosswalks. Falling over the handlebars

+1 to helmets
Why is our council not addressing this

Because requirements for helmets don’t significantly help safety overall. Instead requirements for helmets reduce the number of riders. More people seiving is less safe.

I’d always recommend a helmet if you can, but not require it.

If you really care about safety then mandate 20mph speed governors in all cars when they enter city limits.

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DC is more and more Owelllian. These people want to control and regulate everything. Ouch.

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I hate those scooters with a passion so I welcome this bad wholeheartedly but it should be 24/7. They ride too fast on the sidewalk and too slow on the road. They need to be gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate those scooters with a passion so I welcome this bad wholeheartedly but it should be 24/7. They ride too fast on the sidewalk and too slow on the road. They need to be gone.

That’s very selfish. I’ll note that people driving cars in rush hour traffic go too slow. Let’s ban those too. Only pedestrians, bikes and scooters during rush hour.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate those scooters with a passion so I welcome this bad wholeheartedly but it should be 24/7. They ride too fast on the sidewalk and too slow on the road. They need to be gone.

That’s very selfish. I’ll note that people driving cars in rush hour traffic go too slow. Let’s ban those too. Only pedestrians, bikes and scooters during rush hour.

Have you learned how to read? They ride them on sidewalks and almost ran me over a few times. I can't put my whole family on a scooter to take them to school/daycare so your comment is idiotic. BAN THE SCOOTERS