"It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's honestly shocking to me how obsessed liberals are with Fox News. I mean, you people are so repulsed by anything having to do with that network. Here's a though... try watching CNN or MSNBC with as much disdain as you do Fox. You might actually notice that they're ALL biased.

Stop watching cable news. The news isn't the product. You, the audience, are the product. Their mission is to get you invested enough to watch through the commercials. Useful, educational news that is a fair representation of the world around you isn't terribly effective at that. Making you scared and angry, now that packs the emotional punch necessary to keep you watching through the commercials.

[Anonymous]

"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Although there is that pesky historical detail that the Nazis undertook a program to actually kill all the Jews.

Not the day Hitler was elected. Meanwhile, there are kids in cages being sexually abused. So there is that.

That started with Obama, who also promoted racist and violent and anti-semitic BLM.

Hitler would have approved.

Okay so let's say you're right on the money.
It started with Obama who also promoted racist and violent anti-semitic BLM.
Is the shit curbing under Trump?
NO!!
As a matter of fact the shit is escalating under Trump.
Not only has the rhetoric and propaganda and fear-mongering about immigrants ramped up ridiculously,
but anti-Semitism has intensified significantly under Trump also and as far as violence goes uh, I don't recall any mass-killings at synagogues under Obama.
So even if you're right on the money about it starting with Obama which Hitler would have approved I got money says Adolf is looking up from hell grinning and doing cartwheels about the job Donald's doing.

We are mixing 3 topics.

On immigration, the reform Trump proposed made a lot of sense. Legalize close to 3 million immigrants, move system towards merit-based, get some funding for the wall. It didn't get any traction because both the media and Dems attacked it viciously.

On antisemitism, we have the first administration that moved the Embassy to Jerusalem and that supports Israel any chance it gets. We have the first President with a Jewish daughter aND grandkids and nothing but loving words for Judaism. If you see increased tension, and there is, it's because Dems can't respect the verdict of the 2016 election and instead are mobilizing the crazy mob with indeed very unfortunate consequences.

On mass-killings, you probably know that the synagogue killer hated Trump -- he thought Trump is a traitor because he was aligned with Jews. So it's hard to see how Trump is responsible for that. Additionally, in terms of violence overall we should all celebrate that murder rates went down in 2017, as opposed to 2015 and 2016 when they went up.

In short, don't buy the media crap.

So even though the shit is ramping up under Trump he's not responsible?
Boy you'd have made a hell of a marketer for the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.

My family fought and many died fighting fascism you piece of sh#t.

Learn some actual history and discuss arguments with arguments instead of with personal attacks, you piece of sh#t.

My family has fought against fascism and against authoritarian governments.

Just because someone has a daughter who converted to a group of people and whose grandchildren are Jewish, doesn’t mean that Trump has not used his presidential platform to spew hateful rhetoric towards minorites.

Maybe it’s because you are white and a Christian these words do not affect you. But if you grow up hearing the words of the majority towards you, saying to groups of people who are systematically treated differently is not our fault that we hears these words and you don’t.

Get over it this is not a liberal or conservative issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda:

- they're bringing disease
- they're foreign agents
- they're criminals
- they're going to take power here

It's genocidal propaganda being delivered under the guise of a news network.

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1069997217514168320


This is 100% true.

Tucker Carlson echoes white supremacist talking points.

Laura Ingraham echoes white supremacist talking points.

People at rightwing hate sites think Tucker and Ingraham are on their side. That's bad.

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Rupert Murdoch did the same thing in the UK and Australia - use white identity politics to get votes to enrich himself. He doesn't care about how much damage he does to the country, as long as he can influence politicians and put money in his own pocket.

Meanwhile, the biggest predictor of heavy watching of Fox News is low levels of education.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/21/a-rigorous-scientific-look-into-the-fox-news-effect/
-William Poundstone, Author of Head in the Cloud: Why Knowing Things Still Matters When Facts Are So Easy to Look Up

In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news). The chart’s horizontal black lines with tick marks indicate the margins of statistical error. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, a news satire, had the best-informed viewers.

The Fox News effect is a correlation. It doesn't prove that watching Fox News causes people to be ill-informed.
Causes are much trickier to establish. I will give my guesses (along with the warning that they're only guesses). The first thing to realize is that every news medium has its own audience demographics. It's no secret to advertisers that the average Fox News viewer has less formal education and income than the average New York Times reader.

Why are we allowing a foreign billionaire to brainwash 30% of America's population, especially the low-educated, to enrich himself???

Another thread has a fascinating interview with Camille Paglia, apparently a well-known LEFTIST intellectual.

Money quote:

"The mainstream media’s nonstop assault on Trump has certainly backfired by cementing his outsider status. He is basically a pragmatic deal-maker, indifferent to ideology. As with Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump rose because of decades of failure by the political establishment to address urgent systemic problems, including corruption at high levels. Democrats must hammer out their own image and agenda and stop self-destructively insulting half the electorate by treating Trump like Satan."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

+1.

If anything, it's Dems branding Republicans and trying to herd them into ghettos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although there is that pesky historical detail that the Nazis undertook a program to actually kill all the Jews.

Not the day Hitler was elected. Meanwhile, there are kids in cages being sexually abused. So there is that.

That started with Obama, who also promoted racist and violent and anti-semitic BLM.

Hitler would have approved.

Okay so let's say you're right on the money.
It started with Obama who also promoted racist and violent anti-semitic BLM.
Is the shit curbing under Trump?
NO!!
As a matter of fact the shit is escalating under Trump.
Not only has the rhetoric and propaganda and fear-mongering about immigrants ramped up ridiculously,
but anti-Semitism has intensified significantly under Trump also and as far as violence goes uh, I don't recall any mass-killings at synagogues under Obama.
So even if you're right on the money about it starting with Obama which Hitler would have approved I got money says Adolf is looking up from hell grinning and doing cartwheels about the job Donald's doing.

We are mixing 3 topics.

On immigration, the reform Trump proposed made a lot of sense. Legalize close to 3 million immigrants, move system towards merit-based, get some funding for the wall. It didn't get any traction because both the media and Dems attacked it viciously.

On antisemitism, we have the first administration that moved the Embassy to Jerusalem and that supports Israel any chance it gets. We have the first President with a Jewish daughter aND grandkids and nothing but loving words for Judaism. If you see increased tension, and there is, it's because Dems can't respect the verdict of the 2016 election and instead are mobilizing the crazy mob with indeed very unfortunate consequences.

On mass-killings, you probably know that the synagogue killer hated Trump -- he thought Trump is a traitor because he was aligned with Jews. So it's hard to see how Trump is responsible for that. Additionally, in terms of violence overall we should all celebrate that murder rates went down in 2017, as opposed to 2015 and 2016 when they went up.

In short, don't buy the media crap.

So even though the shit is ramping up under Trump he's not responsible?
Boy you'd have made a hell of a marketer for the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.

My family fought and many died fighting fascism you piece of sh#t.

Learn some actual history and discuss arguments with arguments instead of with personal attacks, you piece of sh#t.

My family has fought against fascism and against authoritarian governments.

Just because someone has a daughter who converted to a group of people and whose grandchildren are Jewish, doesn’t mean that Trump has not used his presidential platform to spew hateful rhetoric towards minorites.

Maybe it’s because you are white and a Christian these words do not affect you. But if you grow up hearing the words of the majority towards you, saying to groups of people who are systematically treated differently is not our fault that we hears these words and you don’t.

Get over it this is not a liberal or conservative issue.

I'm neither white not Christian.

You may want to check your own prejudices, they may be impacting your judgment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda:

- they're bringing disease
- they're foreign agents
- they're criminals
- they're going to take power here

It's genocidal propaganda being delivered under the guise of a news network.

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1069997217514168320


This is 100% true.

Tucker Carlson echoes white supremacist talking points.

Laura Ingraham echoes white supremacist talking points.

People at rightwing hate sites think Tucker and Ingraham are on their side. That's bad.

------------

Rupert Murdoch did the same thing in the UK and Australia - use white identity politics to get votes to enrich himself. He doesn't care about how much damage he does to the country, as long as he can influence politicians and put money in his own pocket.

Meanwhile, the biggest predictor of heavy watching of Fox News is low levels of education.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/21/a-rigorous-scientific-look-into-the-fox-news-effect/
-William Poundstone, Author of Head in the Cloud: Why Knowing Things Still Matters When Facts Are So Easy to Look Up

In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news). The chart’s horizontal black lines with tick marks indicate the margins of statistical error. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, a news satire, had the best-informed viewers.

The Fox News effect is a correlation. It doesn't prove that watching Fox News causes people to be ill-informed.
Causes are much trickier to establish. I will give my guesses (along with the warning that they're only guesses). The first thing to realize is that every news medium has its own audience demographics. It's no secret to advertisers that the average Fox News viewer has less formal education and income than the average New York Times reader.

Why are we allowing a foreign billionaire to brainwash 30% of America's population, especially the low-educated, to enrich himself???

Another thread has a fascinating interview with Camille Paglia, apparently a well-known LEFTIST intellectual.

Money quote:

"The mainstream media’s nonstop assault on Trump has certainly backfired by cementing his outsider status. He is basically a pragmatic deal-maker, indifferent to ideology. As with Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump rose because of decades of failure by the political establishment to address urgent systemic problems, including corruption at high levels. Democrats must hammer out their own image and agenda and stop self-destructively insulting half the electorate by treating Trump like Satan."

Anyone who really knows Camille Paglia and her work over the decades would never call her a LEFTIST intellectual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

+1.

If anything, it's Dems branding Republicans and trying to herd them into ghettos.

Yeah, sure. That's why the outgoing Republican administrations in WI and MI are doing all they can to strip power from their incoming, democratically elected Democrat administrations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Although there is that pesky historical detail that the Nazis undertook a program to actually kill all the Jews.

Not the day Hitler was elected. Meanwhile, there are kids in cages being sexually abused. So there is that.

That started with Obama, who also promoted racist and violent and anti-semitic BLM.

Hitler would have approved.

Okay so let's say you're right on the money.
It started with Obama who also promoted racist and violent anti-semitic BLM.
Is the shit curbing under Trump?
NO!!
As a matter of fact the shit is escalating under Trump.
Not only has the rhetoric and propaganda and fear-mongering about immigrants ramped up ridiculously,
but anti-Semitism has intensified significantly under Trump also and as far as violence goes uh, I don't recall any mass-killings at synagogues under Obama.
So even if you're right on the money about it starting with Obama which Hitler would have approved I got money says Adolf is looking up from hell grinning and doing cartwheels about the job Donald's doing.

We are mixing 3 topics.

On immigration, the reform Trump proposed made a lot of sense. Legalize close to 3 million immigrants, move system towards merit-based, get some funding for the wall. It didn't get any traction because both the media and Dems attacked it viciously.

On antisemitism, we have the first administration that moved the Embassy to Jerusalem and that supports Israel any chance it gets. We have the first President with a Jewish daughter aND grandkids and nothing but loving words for Judaism. If you see increased tension, and there is, it's because Dems can't respect the verdict of the 2016 election and instead are mobilizing the crazy mob with indeed very unfortunate consequences.

On mass-killings, you probably know that the synagogue killer hated Trump -- he thought Trump is a traitor because he was aligned with Jews. So it's hard to see how Trump is responsible for that. Additionally, in terms of violence overall we should all celebrate that murder rates went down in 2017, as opposed to 2015 and 2016 when they went up.

In short, don't buy the media crap.

So even though the shit is ramping up under Trump he's not responsible?
Boy you'd have made a hell of a marketer for the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda.

My family fought and many died fighting fascism you piece of sh#t.

Learn some actual history and discuss arguments with arguments instead of with personal attacks, you piece of sh#t.

Oh your family fought that's great how about you, are you continuing their fight or have you switched sides?
Truth be told I think you've switched sides cause you seem more in favor of feeding into divisive rhetoric than rejecting it.
Truth be told I think you've switched sides cause you seem more in favor of perpetuating fear-mongering than deterring it.
Truth be told I think you've switched sides cause you seem more in favor of exacerbating xenophobia than eradicating it.
Don't come at me all sanctimonious because of what your family did 70 years ago - especially if you got the audacity to defend the pernicious propaganda machine that is Fox News.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

Immigrants at the border are have numbers written on them in sharpie. Their children are still being taken from them and put into tent camps run by people the Trump Administration didn’t even bother to fingerprint. They are refusing access to these ghettos to Congreemen.

I’m not worried about myself. I may be a Democrat. But I’m also healthy and white. So I’m protected. But migrants on the border with asylum claims? They are having numbers written on them. Put in ghettos. All while Fox News (and on DCUM poster who started a thread) go into fearmongering overdrive about the diseases they bring. Yet another’s page out of the Nazi playbook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It is honestly shocking how much Fox News' rhetoric about immigrants mirrors Nazi propaganda:

- they're bringing disease
- they're foreign agents
- they're criminals
- they're going to take power here

It's genocidal propaganda being delivered under the guise of a news network.

https://twitter.com/gaywonk/status/1069997217514168320


This is 100% true.

Tucker Carlson echoes white supremacist talking points.

Laura Ingraham echoes white supremacist talking points.

People at rightwing hate sites think Tucker and Ingraham are on their side. That's bad.

------------

Rupert Murdoch did the same thing in the UK and Australia - use white identity politics to get votes to enrich himself. He doesn't care about how much damage he does to the country, as long as he can influence politicians and put money in his own pocket.

Meanwhile, the biggest predictor of heavy watching of Fox News is low levels of education.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/21/a-rigorous-scientific-look-into-the-fox-news-effect/
-William Poundstone, Author of Head in the Cloud: Why Knowing Things Still Matters When Facts Are So Easy to Look Up

In my research too, Fox News viewers scored the lowest of over 30 popular news sources (though Fox viewers did at least score better than those saying they didn't follow the news). The chart’s horizontal black lines with tick marks indicate the margins of statistical error. Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, a news satire, had the best-informed viewers.

The Fox News effect is a correlation. It doesn't prove that watching Fox News causes people to be ill-informed.
Causes are much trickier to establish. I will give my guesses (along with the warning that they're only guesses). The first thing to realize is that every news medium has its own audience demographics. It's no secret to advertisers that the average Fox News viewer has less formal education and income than the average New York Times reader.

Why are we allowing a foreign billionaire to brainwash 30% of America's population, especially the low-educated, to enrich himself???

Another thread has a fascinating interview with Camille Paglia, apparently a well-known LEFTIST intellectual.

Money quote:

"The mainstream media’s nonstop assault on Trump has certainly backfired by cementing his outsider status. He is basically a pragmatic deal-maker, indifferent to ideology. As with Bolsonaro in Brazil, Trump rose because of decades of failure by the political establishment to address urgent systemic problems, including corruption at high levels. Democrats must hammer out their own image and agenda and stop self-destructively insulting half the electorate by treating Trump like Satan."

Anyone who really knows Camille Paglia and her work over the decades would never call her a LEFTIST intellectual.

She's a registered Democrat and supporter of Bernie.

You're saying that's what, far right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

+1.

If anything, it's Dems branding Republicans and trying to herd them into ghettos.

Yeah, sure. That's why the outgoing Republican administrations in WI and MI are doing all they can to strip power from their incoming, democratically elected Democrat administrations.

You are clueless.

Fascists didn't work via paperwork. They energized the mobs to intimidate opponents in the streets, and that's exactly what Dems have been doing so diligently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

+1.

If anything, it's Dems branding Republicans and trying to herd them into ghettos.

Yeah, sure. That's why the outgoing Republican administrations in WI and MI are doing all they can to strip power from their incoming, democratically elected Democrat administrations.

Exactly. Breaking down our government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"It is honestly shocking how much the howling, liberal-biased media continue to compare Trump to Hitler and Republicans to Nazis with a constant series of "News Flashes" containing blaring, baseless claims and false innuendos."

There, that's what the title ought to be. When Trump starts branding Democrats with pink donkey tattoos and herding them into ghettos, yeah, then I might believe Trump is goose-stepping on our constitution. Until then, such hysteria is nothing more than the weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth of crybabies not getting their way.

+1.

If anything, it's Dems branding Republicans and trying to herd them into ghettos.

Yeah, sure. That's why the outgoing Republican administrations in WI and MI are doing all they can to strip power from their incoming, democratically elected Democrat administrations.

You are clueless.

Fascists didn't work via paperwork. They energized the mobs to intimidate opponents in the streets, and that's exactly what Dems have been doing so diligently.

Yeah, healthcare is so "fascist"

[Anonymous]

Yeah, sure. That's why the outgoing Republican administrations in WI and MI are doing all they can to strip power from their incoming, democratically elected Democrat administrations.

Gee. It seems like I recall an outgoing Congress passing very major legislation at the very last minute because the controlling party had just lost a Senate seat in Massachusetts. And, they passed it even though they lost the seat because of the possibility of that very legislation.