Why shouldn’t Hogan keep his job?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.


You post about Jealous and the Kirwan Commission on every thread as if it's Mein Kampf. It affirms the importance of early childhood education, reiterates the need for highly qualified teachers and school leaders, explains the importance of coherent paths for both college bound and vocational track kids, talks about the importance of supporting at-risk students with resources, and supporting better governance and more accountability throughout the school system. I'm iin favor of all of that, and I'm for Jealous.
http://dls.maryland.gov/pubs/prod/NoPblTabMtg/CmsnInnovEduc/2018-Preliminary-Report-of-the-Commission.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.


You post about Jealous and the Kirwan Commission on every thread as if it's Mein Kampf. It affirms the importance of early childhood education, reiterates the need for highly qualified teachers and school leaders, explains the importance of coherent paths for both college bound and vocational track kids, talks about the importance of supporting at-risk students with resources, and supporting better governance and more accountability throughout the school system. I'm iin favor of all of that, and I'm for Jealous.
http://dls.maryland.gov/pubs/prod/NoPblTabMtg/CmsnInnovEduc/2018-Preliminary-Report-of-the-Commission.pdf


First, there are multiple people who refer to the Kirwan Commission. Second, your analogy to Nazi propaganda is not at all subtle, obviously intentional, and horribly offensive.

But on to the merits, I am also in favor of all the things you recited. But, I notice you didn't mention the how all that is paid for, and the impact on MCPS state educational funds. Are you in favor of that as well?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.


You post about Jealous and the Kirwan Commission on every thread as if it's Mein Kampf. It affirms the importance of early childhood education, reiterates the need for highly qualified teachers and school leaders, explains the importance of coherent paths for both college bound and vocational track kids, talks about the importance of supporting at-risk students with resources, and supporting better governance and more accountability throughout the school system. I'm iin favor of all of that, and I'm for Jealous.
http://dls.maryland.gov/pubs/prod/NoPblTabMtg/CmsnInnovEduc/2018-Preliminary-Report-of-the-Commission.pdf


First, there are multiple people who refer to the Kirwan Commission. Second, your analogy to Nazi propaganda is not at all subtle, obviously intentional, and horribly offensive.

But on to the merits, I am also in favor of all the things you recited. But, I notice you didn't mention the how all that is paid for, and the impact on MCPS state educational funds. Are you in favor of that as well?


First the Kirwan Commission applies to Maryland, not just MCPS. Second, if you're going to explain that you're voting for Hogan because of the Kirwan Commission you should explain why you're against it, not just throw out words as if the Kirwan Commission is something toxic, which it is not, to those who value educational opportunities for children. Third, I believe there is ample room to expand funding for education in Maryland. We don't need to expand 270 (a Hogan priority) or build rural roads to nowhere (another Hogan priority). But if you prefer infrastructure over education, that's your prerogative.
Anonymous
I think voting or not voting for somebody simply because of their political party is not the way we should approach elections. Vote for the best candidate to represent our state, county or country, regardless of political affiliation. In this case I think Governor Hogan has done a fantastic job and I will gladly be voting for him. If you think ben jealous is the right man for the job then By all means vote for him. But don’t vote for him just because he has a D after his name because that is just as bad as people voting for Donald Trump simply because he had a R after his name.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote: I think voting or not voting for somebody simply because of their political party is not the way we should approach elections. Vote for the best candidate to represent our state, county or country, regardless of political affiliation. In this case I think Governor Hogan has done a fantastic job and I will gladly be voting for him. If you think ben jealous is the right man for the job then By all means vote for him. But don’t vote for him just because he has a D after his name because that is just as bad as people voting for Donald Trump simply because he had a R after his name.


I don't think Hogan has done a fantastic job. Our schools have suffered under him, his policies favor the rural coastal parts of Maryland, he has not spoken out against Trump's bigotry and misogyny and despite being a Republican, he meddles in aspects that should be under local control, like school calendars.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I think voting or not voting for somebody simply because of their political party is not the way we should approach elections. Vote for the best candidate to represent our state, county or country, regardless of political affiliation. In this case I think Governor Hogan has done a fantastic job and I will gladly be voting for him. If you think ben jealous is the right man for the job then By all means vote for him. But don’t vote for him just because he has a D after his name because that is just as bad as people voting for Donald Trump simply because he had a R after his name.


I don't think Hogan has done a fantastic job. Our schools have suffered under him, his policies favor the rural coastal parts of Maryland, he has not spoken out against Trump's bigotry and misogyny and despite being a Republican, he meddles in aspects that should be under local control, like school calendars.


And that’s fine, we have different opinions and points of view on his job performance. Cast your vote for the other guy. . My point is is that simply voting for somebody based on their political affiliation is not smart. I’ve seen several posts say that they like Governor Hogan but they are voting for jealous only because he’s a Democrat. Those are the people that I was referring to .
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat, but I think he’s been a great governor. I want to my party. Tell me why I should vote him out.


He shouldn't keep his job because he is a republican and right now, in this political climate, we need all the democrats in office we can get. We should we voting party line each and every time.

If you arent doing this you might as well be supporting Trump.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat, but I think he’s been a great governor. I want to my party. Tell me why I should vote him out.


He shouldn't keep his job because he is a republican and right now, in this political climate, we need all the democrats in office we can get. We should we voting party line each and every time.

If you arent doing this you might as well be supporting Trump.


Let’s pretend and say I am a Republican. You think I should be voting down party lines and vote for every single Republican? Regardless of ability or qualifications? Come on.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat, but I think he’s been a great governor. I want to my party. Tell me why I should vote him out.


He shouldn't keep his job because he is a republican and right now, in this political climate, we need all the democrats in office we can get. We should we voting party line each and every time.

If you arent doing this you might as well be supporting Trump.


Let’s pretend and say I am a Republican. You think I should be voting down party lines and vote for every single Republican? Regardless of ability or qualifications? Come on.


Yeah. 1/3 of registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation (including me). If I voted "party line" it would for Floreen (indepednent), and the school board (non-affiliated position), and I wouldn't even get to vote for governor or congress!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat, but I think he’s been a great governor. I want to my party. Tell me why I should vote him out.


He shouldn't keep his job because he is a republican and right now, in this political climate, we need all the democrats in office we can get. We should we voting party line each and every time.

If you arent doing this you might as well be supporting Trump.


Let’s pretend and say I am a Republican. You think I should be voting down party lines and vote for every single Republican? Regardless of ability or qualifications? Come on.


Yeah. 1/3 of registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation (including me). If I voted "party line" it would for Floreen (indepednent), and the school board (non-affiliated position), and I wouldn't even get to vote for governor or congress!


I’m actually an independent too. I vote for the most qualified candidate regardless of political affiliation. Voting down party lines makes no sense to me.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m a Democrat, but I think he’s been a great governor. I want to my party. Tell me why I should vote him out.


He shouldn't keep his job because he is a republican and right now, in this political climate, we need all the democrats in office we can get. We should we voting party line each and every time.

If you arent doing this you might as well be supporting Trump.


Let’s pretend and say I am a Republican. You think I should be voting down party lines and vote for every single Republican? Regardless of ability or qualifications? Come on.


Yeah. 1/3 of registered voters in MoCo have no party affiliation (including me). If I voted "party line" it would for Floreen (indepednent), and the school board (non-affiliated position), and I wouldn't even get to vote for governor or congress!


I’m actually an independent too. I vote for the most qualified candidate regardless of political affiliation. Voting down party lines makes no sense to me.


Voting on party lines makes sense for most voters, because most voters don't have the time to research their candidates' policy stance on every issue. The party identification indicates a likelihood of synchrony of views.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.

Governors aren’t responsible for gerrymandering.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.


You post about Jealous and the Kirwan Commission on every thread as if it's Mein Kampf. It affirms the importance of early childhood education, reiterates the need for highly qualified teachers and school leaders, explains the importance of coherent paths for both college bound and vocational track kids, talks about the importance of supporting at-risk students with resources, and supporting better governance and more accountability throughout the school system. I'm iin favor of all of that, and I'm for Jealous.
http://dls.maryland.gov/pubs/prod/NoPblTabMtg/CmsnInnovEduc/2018-Preliminary-Report-of-the-Commission.pdf


First, there are multiple people who refer to the Kirwan Commission. Second, your analogy to Nazi propaganda is not at all subtle, obviously intentional, and horribly offensive.

But on to the merits, I am also in favor of all the things you recited. But, I notice you didn't mention the how all that is paid for, and the impact on MCPS state educational funds. Are you in favor of that as well?


First the Kirwan Commission applies to Maryland, not just MCPS. Second, if you're going to explain that you're voting for Hogan because of the Kirwan Commission you should explain why you're against it, not just throw out words as if the Kirwan Commission is something toxic, which it is not, to those who value educational opportunities for children. Third, I believe there is ample room to expand funding for education in Maryland. We don't need to expand 270 (a Hogan priority) or build rural roads to nowhere (another Hogan priority). But if you prefer infrastructure over education, that's your prerogative.


Of course it applies to all of Maryland - that's the point. And again, you are avoiding the central question. General platitudes about "ample room to expand educational funding in Maryland" and "preferring education over infrastructure" are red herrings. The Kirwan Commission specifically calls for redirecting state educational funds from MCPS to other jurisdictions, leaving Montgomery County residents to make up the shortfall. I asked you a direct question before, and you declined to answer it, so I'll ask it again - are you in favor of that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hogan has continued to tout himself as the Education Governor while siphoning off money from MCPS schools.

The beltway widening/I270 widening ideas are election-year gimmicks that won't happen. If you think they will, please come find me, because I have some beachfront property to sell you in FL!

If that isn't enough for you, 2020 is when Maryland does redistricting.

And if that isn't enough for you, please move out of this blue county and into some crazy red county - we really don't want you here.


You think Jealous will be better? Two words - Kirwan Commission.

Also, Maryland is one of the poster children for gerrymandered districts. If we are going to complain about districts in red states, and insist on fairly drawn districts, we need to accept the (far fewer) instances that hurt Democrats.

Governors aren’t responsible for gerrymandering.


Then it shouldn't be a reason to vote for or against any particular gubernatorial candidate.
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