Be careful biking with your family

Anonymous
The driver clearly was not paying attention. Although the car stopped in the left lane might have blocked his/her view, s/he should have been attentive to the fact the the other cars were stopped in front of a crosswalk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was frightening. This small kid was practically not noticeable for the driver of the black SUV who managed to stop in time. Holy shit!!!

BTW - how did you get the dashboard camera and how can we get one. This was similar to the Russian crash videos on youtube.

Glad the kid is still unharmed and alive. The parents require some knocks on their heads for being idiots.


What are you talking about, managed to stop in time? The SUV blew clear through the cross walk and the only reason it didn't hit the girl was because mom saw the car coming and yelled for her to stop, which she did just before riding into the SUV's path. Had mom not yelled, the SUV would have flattened the girl.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've seen this happen with kids so many times when I've stopped to let them cross. Idiot drivers can't figure out why on earth all these other cars are stopped *at a freaking crosswalk* and plow through. I've considered pulling my car over to block both lanes when I see a kid trying to cross to keep a-holes like this from killing someone.


This! It happens all the damned time. A responsible driver would note the other stopped drivers and proceed with extra caution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was frightening. This small kid was practically not noticeable for the driver of the black SUV who managed to stop in time. Holy shit!!!

BTW - how did you get the dashboard camera and how can we get one. This was similar to the Russian crash videos on youtube.

Glad the kid is still unharmed and alive. The parents require some knocks on their heads for being idiots.


What are you talking about, managed to stop in time? The SUV blew clear through the cross walk and the only reason it didn't hit the girl was because mom saw the car coming and yelled for her to stop, which she did just before riding into the SUV's path. Had mom not yelled, the SUV would have flattened the girl.


That PP is kind of an idiot. Yes small kid may be hard to see. Stopped car with flashers on? Easy to see.

Since PP thinks it stopped in time, maybe they should not be driving either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:That is so scary!! The diver was 100% in the wrong.

At the same time, bikes should be WALKED across traffic lanes. Is this not a thing anymore? Her parents should have also accompanied the small child across the road.

If the plates are legible, can the police ticket the car?


Also, I notice that the dad crosses the road while the intersection is not clear.
Anonymous
Thanks for posting. Scary indeed.

Mary Cheh tried to pass legislation a few years ago to require cars to stop in multi-lane roads when another car is stopped. This was in response, I believe, to pedestrians getting hit in situations like the video OP posted.

That being said, I think that the dad who crossed should have made sure that all cars on his side of the road stopped for his kid on the bike once he had safely crossed the road. He did not look back. The mom yelled STOP when she saw that the car was possibly going to hit her kid.

The car with the dash cam could have *honked.*

Finally, hawk lights are ideal for situations like this.
Anonymous
I don’t bike on the street because I think it is dangerous but I am a frequent pedestrian.

I see this a lot when I am walking. You have to be a smart biker and pedestrian and not assume the cars see you and will stop. You have to confirm that they see you and are stopping before you go. Maybe the driver of the car is technically in the wrong for not stopping at a crosswalk but it’s better for you not to be injured!!

When walking - even when I have the right of way with a walk sign, I often see cars want to turn right on red. They look at the cars coming to their left but you need to confirm that they also see you crossing to their right before crossing.

Same if you’re walking / running on a street and you want to go across a street to the other side. Make sure if a car could turn left or right onto that street that they see you’re crossing and that you don’t both end up in the intersection at the same time.

Those are the two i see most frequently. I will think if I can think of any others.
Anonymous
I hope the parents see this video—or better yet, this thread— so they can appreciate how this played out and take precautions in the future. I can imagine that it happened so fast and was so scary, that fear and rage might make a person overlook their own contributing actions.

Poor mom. That must have shaved 10 years from her life!
Anonymous
When I'm driving and see people ready to cross a crosswalk, I just stop even if they aren't in the crosswalk yet. Every once in a while someone does that for me when I'm walking and always appreciate it and thank them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is so scary!! The diver was 100% in the wrong.

At the same time, bikes should be WALKED across traffic lanes. Is this not a thing anymore? Her parents should have also accompanied the small child across the road.

If the plates are legible, can the police ticket the car?


Also, I notice that the dad crosses the road while the intersection is not clear.


True. And, the video starts several seconds before the car arrives at the crosswalk, so you can tell that there is a fairly decent stretch of straight road approaching the crosswalk. That SUV driver had plenty of time see the family ahead, but the parents also had plenty of time to see the SUV approaching and to make sure it was actually going to stop.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is so scary!! The diver was 100% in the wrong.

At the same time, bikes should be WALKED across traffic lanes. Is this not a thing anymore? Her parents should have also accompanied the small child across the road.

If the plates are legible, can the police ticket the car?


Also, I notice that the dad crosses the road while the intersection is not clear.


True. And, the video starts several seconds before the car arrives at the crosswalk, so you can tell that there is a fairly decent stretch of straight road approaching the crosswalk. That SUV driver had plenty of time see the family ahead, but the parents also had plenty of time to see the SUV approaching and to make sure it was actually going to stop.


If I were to bet on this, I'd wager the driver of the SUV was looking at their phone.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When I'm driving and see people ready to cross a crosswalk, I just stop even if they aren't in the crosswalk yet. Every once in a while someone does that for me when I'm walking and always appreciate it and thank them.


I do this, too. I’m always a little on edge while I wait, though, because cars in the lane next to me continue to fly by.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is so scary!! The diver was 100% in the wrong.

At the same time, bikes should be WALKED across traffic lanes. Is this not a thing anymore? Her parents should have also accompanied the small child across the road.

If the plates are legible, can the police ticket the car?


Also, I notice that the dad crosses the road while the intersection is not clear.


True. And, the video starts several seconds before the car arrives at the crosswalk, so you can tell that there is a fairly decent stretch of straight road approaching the crosswalk. That SUV driver had plenty of time see the family ahead, but the parents also had plenty of time to see the SUV approaching and to make sure it was actually going to stop.


Which they did, and that's the only reason the child isn't dead and the driver isn't facing a vehicular manslaughter charge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've seen this happen with kids so many times when I've stopped to let them cross. Idiot drivers can't figure out why on earth all these other cars are stopped *at a freaking crosswalk* and plow through. I've considered pulling my car over to block both lanes when I see a kid trying to cross to keep a-holes like this from killing someone.


This! It happens all the damned time. A responsible driver would note the other stopped drivers and proceed with extra caution.


Yes it happens a lot. And then a lot of times the drivers who are stopped are part of the problem, because they will frantically wave you across like "I AM STOPPED GO AHEAD" when I'm looking for the other lane to ALSO be stopped before we all get killed. I cross a major road with my kids a lot with a crosswalk that has a blinking red light after you push the walk button. People still sometimes almost mow us down. I watch like a hawk when crossing. My kids are still little, but yes I fear the day we are biking and one doesn't listen to my "STOP THERE AND WAIT FOR ME!". That child in the video was inches from being killed. It took my breath away.
Anonymous
The parents are not blameless here (they were “right” but their kid was nearly killed) but how did the dad stay on his bike and not hop off and bang on the car? I think I would have to have been retstained in screaming anger.
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