use sport to get into an Ivy school and quit one month after freshman year

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In my mind you try something for a full season and then assess. Quitting after a month feels like you really didn’t even try. Also I’m not sure how much different premed classes are from regular classes during freshman year.

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Yes, I know kids who've done this. But I think most have played at least one year.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just ignore all these people, OP. Their kids don’t have a sure way into ivies like yours do. At the end of the day, do what is right for your kid.

Nice assumption. Actually my kid was in a position to be recruited by Ivies but didn't want to be beholden to a coach. She chose to apply based on grades/qualifications, etc. She ended up joining the team as a walk on after all.

OP, it is a lousy thing to do to the coach, to your son's high school and to your son - you are encouraging him to be dishonest, take advantage of a system and not follow through on an obligation. He may come out of it with an ivy league degree but at what expense to his values?

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

This shows u know very little of athletic recruiting at ivies. There is something called academic index. If u go to a HS and take the easiest classes, your GPA will be high and can meet min AI. U have athletes that are bench athletes that have high scores and those who meet minimal or just below AI. I know of Yale recruited athletes that were tutored in basic math over the summer before starting freshman year as their Math score of the SAT was around 600. I know of ice hockey recruits being offered spots at ivies if they could just get 1300 (out of the 2400 score). There is a lot going on that the average joe is not aware of.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

This shows u know very little of athletic recruiting at ivies. There is something called academic index. If u go to a HS and take the easiest classes, your GPA will be high and can meet min AI. U have athletes that are bench athletes that have high scores and those who meet minimal or just below AI. I know of Yale recruited athletes that were tutored in basic math over the summer before starting freshman year as their Math score of the SAT was around 600. I know of ice hockey recruits being offered spots at ivies if they could just get 1300 (out of the 2400 score). There is a lot going on that the average joe is not aware of.

I call BS. There is NO Ivy that would accept a 1300 total score out of 2400 for ice hockey … or football or basketball for that matter. And a 600 math score is still an acceptable score if the other score/s (depending on the SAT year for 1600 or 2400) are high enough.

I am not an average Joe. We currently have 3 recruited students attending Ivies so my wife and I are very well acquainted with the process.

You are correct that coaches and departments watch recruitment scores very carefully. Two of our kids were asked to retest in Jan/Feb I believe, in other words after acceptance , because even going from a 2180 to a 2200, as a real example, would give the team or department a boost on the index. It was NBD, our kids did it happily, and indeed their higher scores (by 20 or 35 points) resulted in benefits for their respective schools/teams/departments.

I do stipulate that the OP is trolling. I don't see any of the indicators in terminology showing legitimacy. I think it is some dodo (or their parent) who isn't multi-dimensional and has a grudge against scholar athletes, falsely believing that scholar athletes are the reason why they aren't getting into the school they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

This shows u know very little of athletic recruiting at ivies. There is something called academic index. If u go to a HS and take the easiest classes, your GPA will be high and can meet min AI. U have athletes that are bench athletes that have high scores and those who meet minimal or just below AI. I know of Yale recruited athletes that were tutored in basic math over the summer before starting freshman year as their Math score of the SAT was around 600. I know of ice hockey recruits being offered spots at ivies if they could just get 1300 (out of the 2400 score). There is a lot going on that the average joe is not aware of.

I call BS. There is NO Ivy that would accept a 1300 total score out of 2400 for ice hockey … or football or basketball for that matter. And a 600 math score is still an acceptable score if the other score/s (depending on the SAT year for 1600 or 2400) are high enough.

I am not an average Joe. We currently have 3 recruited students attending Ivies so my wife and I are very well acquainted with the process.

You are correct that coaches and departments watch recruitment scores very carefully. Two of our kids were asked to retest in Jan/Feb I believe, in other words after acceptance , because even going from a 2180 to a 2200, as a real example, would give the team or department a boost on the index. It was NBD, our kids did it happily, and indeed their higher scores (by 20 or 35 points) resulted in benefits for their respective schools/teams/departments.

I do stipulate that the OP is trolling. I don't see any of the indicators in terminology showing legitimacy. I think it is some dodo (or their parent) who isn't multi-dimensional and has a grudge against scholar athletes, falsely believing that scholar athletes are the reason why they aren't getting into the school they want.

It is not BS. The example above is for NHL caliber kids. I have ivies recruited kids also and they attended a private that send over 25% just to ivies and most are due to being recruited. So we know the game very well.

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Nope. Go for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

This shows u know very little of athletic recruiting at ivies. There is something called academic index. If u go to a HS and take the easiest classes, your GPA will be high and can meet min AI. U have athletes that are bench athletes that have high scores and those who meet minimal or just below AI. I know of Yale recruited athletes that were tutored in basic math over the summer before starting freshman year as their Math score of the SAT was around 600. I know of ice hockey recruits being offered spots at ivies if they could just get 1300 (out of the 2400 score). There is a lot going on that the average joe is not aware of.

I call BS. There is NO Ivy that would accept a 1300 total score out of 2400 for ice hockey … or football or basketball for that matter. And a 600 math score is still an acceptable score if the other score/s (depending on the SAT year for 1600 or 2400) are high enough.

I am not an average Joe. We currently have 3 recruited students attending Ivies so my wife and I are very well acquainted with the process.

You are correct that coaches and departments watch recruitment scores very carefully. Two of our kids were asked to retest in Jan/Feb I believe, in other words after acceptance , because even going from a 2180 to a 2200, as a real example, would give the team or department a boost on the index. It was NBD, our kids did it happily, and indeed their higher scores (by 20 or 35 points) resulted in benefits for their respective schools/teams/departments.

I do stipulate that the OP is trolling. I don't see any of the indicators in terminology showing legitimacy. I think it is some dodo (or their parent) who isn't multi-dimensional and has a grudge against scholar athletes, falsely believing that scholar athletes are the reason why they aren't getting into the school they want.

It is not BS. The example above is for NHL caliber kids. I have ivies recruited kids also and they attended a private that send over 25% just to ivies and most are due to being recruited. So we know the game very well.

Really? Aren’t most div 1 hockey recruits out of the juniors and not high school?

[Anonymous]

If u come from a high school strong in ice hockey, kids get offers as early as grade 10. Helmet sports go first. The kids my decide to go to juniors w accepted offer/commitments.

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Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

How is he doing this? Most Ivies have very high requirements for SAT scores and grades for all students, including their recruited athletes, musicians, etc. I honestly think this is a troll post because frankly I don't see any of the cue words (that I'm not giving here) that would indicate this is a valid post. Name the sport and the Ivy for your supposed SENIOR son!!!

I think you are correct and I should have caught that.

I kind of thought it was a troll as well but intrigued to see the responses.

This shows u know very little of athletic recruiting at ivies. There is something called academic index. If u go to a HS and take the easiest classes, your GPA will be high and can meet min AI. U have athletes that are bench athletes that have high scores and those who meet minimal or just below AI. I know of Yale recruited athletes that were tutored in basic math over the summer before starting freshman year as their Math score of the SAT was around 600. I know of ice hockey recruits being offered spots at ivies if they could just get 1300 (out of the 2400 score). There is a lot going on that the average joe is not aware of.

I call BS. There is NO Ivy that would accept a 1300 total score out of 2400 for ice hockey … or football or basketball for that matter. And a 600 math score is still an acceptable score if the other score/s (depending on the SAT year for 1600 or 2400) are high enough.

I am not an average Joe. We currently have 3 recruited students attending Ivies so my wife and I are very well acquainted with the process.

You are correct that coaches and departments watch recruitment scores very carefully. Two of our kids were asked to retest in Jan/Feb I believe, in other words after acceptance , because even going from a 2180 to a 2200, as a real example, would give the team or department a boost on the index. It was NBD, our kids did it happily, and indeed their higher scores (by 20 or 35 points) resulted in benefits for their respective schools/teams/departments.

I do stipulate that the OP is trolling. I don't see any of the indicators in terminology showing legitimacy. I think it is some dodo (or their parent) who isn't multi-dimensional and has a grudge against scholar athletes, falsely believing that scholar athletes are the reason why they aren't getting into the school they want.

+1

I totally agree.

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Anonymous wrote:If u come from a high school strong in ice hockey, kids get offers as early as grade 10. Helmet sports go first. The kids my decide to go to juniors w accepted offer/commitments.

This makes no sense -- why would a kid decide to go to the juniors once he has an offer... I understand the offer may be conditional on a kid going, but certainly not something one would choose... why risk injury and loss of admission?

Also, are you speaking of American HS? Andover level maybe, but aren't they usually post-grads?

They go to the juniors because that is where they are recruited from, is my understanding. The average age of a hockey freshman is 20.5. I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying I would like some evidence of those players being recruited in 10th grade.

[Anonymous]

It happens CONSTANTLY because:

1) your entitled brat will likely ride the bench and cry like a baby

2) when parents can't control the kid's every move anymore, the kid prefers to party and sleep in than wake up at 6am to train and spend weekends traveling to play in front of 10 parents