use sport to get into an Ivy school and quit one month after freshman year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

What does he want to major in? What does he want to do after college?

Could he take a lot of classes in the summer, so lighten the load during the school year?

Also, would the sports people help him work with the professors to ease time conflicts? Example: If a paper would normally be due on a certain day, and practicing for the sport team would critical that day, would the team help him get the paper rescheduled?

Or, would the team at least help him figure out which professors would work with him?

If he wants to become a marketing executive after college and golf a lot, the best answer might be a lot different than if he wants to become a philosophy professor at Yale, a nuclear physicist or an MD-PhD.

OP here. He wants to major premed in college. He visited the school and the team this past summer and everyone on the team majors in either business, finance or sports management.
Personally I don't think he will make it through premed but he wants to do it. He did some research and in his sport, there was one person completed premed and went onto become doctor in the past ten years at that school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How soon is he thinking of quitting? One month? After one year? It is one thing to be cut or get injured, but if the only way you are getting in to a school is by being recruited, seems pretty unethical to plan this in advance. I wouldn't want my kid growing up with the idea that this is OK.

Also he is hurting potential recruits from his school that might be coming up behind him.

And, he his hurting the college team/program. Coaches recruit specifically because they need athletes to fill spots at those particular sports/positions, and quitting a month in could leave the team in a bind.

To accept a recruiting offer knowing full well that you have no actual intention of playing the sport is a shitty thing to do. Period.

Can we also make a list of the shitty things colleges do to athletes? Like dropping support at the last minute when someone else becomes available? Take care of yourself and your kid first. Take the slot and quit whenever you want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How soon is he thinking of quitting? One month? After one year? It is one thing to be cut or get injured, but if the only way you are getting in to a school is by being recruited, seems pretty unethical to plan this in advance. I wouldn't want my kid growing up with the idea that this is OK.

Also he is hurting potential recruits from his school that might be coming up behind him.

And, he his hurting the college team/program. Coaches recruit specifically because they need athletes to fill spots at those particular sports/positions, and quitting a month in could leave the team in a bind.

To accept a recruiting offer knowing full well that you have no actual intention of playing the sport is a shitty thing to do. Period.

Can we also make a list of the shitty things colleges do to athletes? Like dropping support at the last minute when someone else becomes available? Take care of yourself and your kid first. Take the slot and quit whenever you want.

*shrug* not how I’m raising my kids, but you do you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

What does he want to major in? What does he want to do after college?

Could he take a lot of classes in the summer, so lighten the load during the school year?

Also, would the sports people help him work with the professors to ease time conflicts? Example: If a paper would normally be due on a certain day, and practicing for the sport team would critical that day, would the team help him get the paper rescheduled?

Or, would the team at least help him figure out which professors would work with him?

If he wants to become a marketing executive after college and golf a lot, the best answer might be a lot different than if he wants to become a philosophy professor at Yale, a nuclear physicist or an MD-PhD.

OP here. He wants to major premed in college. He visited the school and the team this past summer and everyone on the team majors in either business, finance or sports management.
Personally I don't think he will make it through premed but he wants to do it. He did some research and in his sport, there was one person completed premed and went onto become doctor in the past ten years at that school.

Ivy League schools don’t offer degrees sport management. Most don’t have business degrees either.

Nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

What does he want to major in? What does he want to do after college?

Could he take a lot of classes in the summer, so lighten the load during the school year?

Also, would the sports people help him work with the professors to ease time conflicts? Example: If a paper would normally be due on a certain day, and practicing for the sport team would critical that day, would the team help him get the paper rescheduled?

Or, would the team at least help him figure out which professors would work with him?

If he wants to become a marketing executive after college and golf a lot, the best answer might be a lot different than if he wants to become a philosophy professor at Yale, a nuclear physicist or an MD-PhD.

OP here. He wants to major premed in college. He visited the school and the team this past summer and everyone on the team majors in either business, finance or sports management.
Personally I don't think he will make it through premed but he wants to do it. He did some research and in his sport, there was one person completed premed and went onto become doctor in the past ten years at that school.

Then maybe he should look at schools he can get into without the sports. I’d never let my kid do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Son is a HS senior and highly recruited athlete with good, not great grade. He is being heavily recruited by a couple of Ivy schools. Son is good but not pro material. Our family can afford the tuition without assistance. Son realizes that it will be impossible for him to handle both academic and athletic at school because he is already having a hard time for the past two years.

He is thinking of accepting one of the Ivy offers and when he starts his freshman year there, just quit the team so that he can focus only on academic. Can he be kicked out of school for doing this?

What does he want to major in? What does he want to do after college?

Could he take a lot of classes in the summer, so lighten the load during the school year?

Also, would the sports people help him work with the professors to ease time conflicts? Example: If a paper would normally be due on a certain day, and practicing for the sport team would critical that day, would the team help him get the paper rescheduled?

Or, would the team at least help him figure out which professors would work with him?

If he wants to become a marketing executive after college and golf a lot, the best answer might be a lot different than if he wants to become a philosophy professor at Yale, a nuclear physicist or an MD-PhD.

OP here. He wants to major premed in college. He visited the school and the team this past summer and everyone on the team majors in either business, finance or sports management.
Personally I don't think he will make it through premed but he wants to do it. He did some research and in his sport, there was one person completed premed and went onto become doctor in the past ten years at that school.

Ivy League schools don’t offer degrees sport management. Most don’t have business degrees either.

Nice try.

They have institutues and programs for those with interest in that area, so just go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How soon is he thinking of quitting? One month? After one year? It is one thing to be cut or get injured, but if the only way you are getting in to a school is by being recruited, seems pretty unethical to plan this in advance. I wouldn't want my kid growing up with the idea that this is OK.

Also he is hurting potential recruits from his school that might be coming up behind him.

And, he his hurting the college team/program. Coaches recruit specifically because they need athletes to fill spots at those particular sports/positions, and quitting a month in could leave the team in a bind.

To accept a recruiting offer knowing full well that you have no actual intention of playing the sport is a shitty thing to do. Period.

Can we also make a list of the shitty things colleges do to athletes? Like dropping support at the last minute when someone else becomes available? Take care of yourself and your kid first. Take the slot and quit whenever you want.

*shrug* not how I’m raising my kids, but you do you.

You raise your kids to be taken advantage of and exploited? Those aren’t moral values no matter what you think.

[Anonymous]

Not after one month. I would say play one year.

I think it is a lesson in character in that he is getting something he wants because he offered a barter: ad it to your school and I’ll play for you. If he does not want that dynamic then he should apply like everyone else. Keep his word as that is what builds character.

I do think it is perfectly fine at the end of they year to say, I no longer am capable or interested at playing at this level. My focus is now XYZ.

Their first semester is fairly scripted and assume 2nd as well. With athletes they will have support.

He needs to honor the offer, evaluate it based on real experience, and have the respect of his teammates and coaches when he tells them he honestly tired but it was not what he expected nor desires.

Graceful exit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poster above - only downside is school will be hesitant to recruit from HS in future

This will disappoint many coaches and people who vouched for him to get that great opportunity. Very unethical thing to do. I would never raise a kid to do this.

I'm judging you OP!

[Anonymous]

Admit me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How soon is he thinking of quitting? One month? After one year? It is one thing to be cut or get injured, but if the only way you are getting in to a school is by being recruited, seems pretty unethical to plan this in advance. I wouldn't want my kid growing up with the idea that this is OK.

Also he is hurting potential recruits from his school that might be coming up behind him.

And, he his hurting the college team/program. Coaches recruit specifically because they need athletes to fill spots at those particular sports/positions, and quitting a month in could leave the team in a bind.

To accept a recruiting offer knowing full well that you have no actual intention of playing the sport is a shitty thing to do. Period.

Can we also make a list of the shitty things colleges do to athletes? Like dropping support at the last minute when someone else becomes available? Take care of yourself and your kid first. Take the slot and quit whenever you want.

*shrug* not how I’m raising my kids, but you do you.

You raise your kids to be taken advantage of and exploited? Those aren’t moral values no matter what you think.

Uh...if you truly believe that college sports exploit and take advantage of students, then he wouldn't participate in the recruiting process at all...

[Anonymous]

You people judging as if the process is fair— have you experience with D1 recruitment? It is anything but fair to the student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You people judging as if the process is fair— have you experience with D1 recruitment? It is anything but fair to the student.

But that's just the thing- you don't have to go through the recruiting process! No one is obligated to go through something, especially not if they think it is unfair and exploitative. If you truly believe that, you have the power to opt out. Amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people judging as if the process is fair— have you experience with D1 recruitment? It is anything but fair to the student.

But that's just the thing- you don't have to go through the recruiting process! No one is obligated to go through something, especially not if they think it is unfair and exploitative. If you truly believe that, you have the power to opt out. Amazing.

Kids change the major they applied with. They also stop playing their instrument. Things change. There are no athletic scholarships in the Ivy League. If the wouldn’t be happy having the kid just As a student they should not accept him.

[Anonymous]

Just ignore all these people, OP. Their kids don’t have a sure way into ivies like yours do. At the end of the day, do what is right for your kid.