Also, BIL has been engaged and has had long term relationships, one last over 15 yrs. He just cannot fully commit (marry) anyone other than his mother. |
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Oh, yah, run.
At first I thought you were saying he leaves his family with you to visit, then goes MIA. He goes MIA with all of them and you aren't involved? I'd leave now- the dynamic is so odd- and he's drawn a line in the sand where he does not need to. |
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I don't find the dynamic of wanting a solo visit with your family odd. I did that when I was dating. The problem comes in the statement that his mom will always come first. That's not how marriage works. A man who can't put his wife first is not marriage material. A guy who sees nothing wrong with the statement is not marriage material. I've seen a marriage nearly implode for something like this. The mother died so things got better.
I think his mom and sister like you but I don't think he is ready for marriage because of that statement. It's important to have appropriate relationships. |
| what’s it like to be the side piece? |
My vote too |
| The fact that you don't hear from him, much less are included in at least some plans, is so weird. Since you pointed this out and told him how it makes you feel and his response was "my family comes first" ( as if it were a zero sum game, instead if s chance to make you feel part of his family), you have all the information you need to make a decision. You will always come second. Can you imagine figuring out holidays? Vacations? Wedding plans? You will be.miserable. |
I would dump him, and tell him you hope his mom gives him as many beejs as you did! |
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I'm not sure I'd dump him right now. I'd need some more information.
1) does he prioritize you in other areas of his life? 2) do you hang out with friends, both yours and his? 3) does he do stuff with you that he doesn't like to do, but knows you do, so he, with a decent attitude, does it anyway? 4) does he make is own decisions? or is he always asking others like his mom, family or friends about what to do? does he make decisions or are you always making them? 5) maybe he doesn't prioritize you because technically, you aren't family yet. So in his mind, it's different. If you let him know that his behavior is making you doubt marrying him, how does he respond? And the next time the Mom/Sister text you to say they wished you had joined them, text back "Would have loved to see you but I wasn't invited" |
This. The appropriate response is to still get what he wants most of the time and compromise and invite you some times. But also say, "hey, my mom is coming in town tomorrow. I want to get lunch with just her, but you want to come hang with us later?" |
I reread the OP and in fact what she said is that he does NOT invite her when they are in town. he disappears the entire time, does not text or call her. She is included when he goes to visit them, so yes he is not hiding her, but when they come (and even when they express the desire to see her too) he will not include her in any plans. Totally reasonable for him to have some family only time, totally bizarre that when they are around, he does not even stay in contact with her, much less include her in anything. |
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Funny how people just want to throw out a 2-3 year long relationship
Talk to him about this and see if you can work it out |
No, she says he doesn't always include her, but sometimes invites her after the plans are made. I would prioritize plans with someone I love and see rarely, over someone I love and see every day. For example, my brother comes to visit for maybe 3 days once a year, and I make sure that I see him every day. I don't think that's weird. |
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How old is he? Are there cultural issues at play?
If he’s very young, I feel like there might be hope. But if he’s mid-30s and there are engrained cultural priorities (that aren’t you), then you better run. It doesn’t sound like there’s cultural issues though, since his mother wants to include you. |