Looks like some more schools need to have their names changed (Thomas Jefferson)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

It's actually the resistance on the part of so many white people to engaging in any type of reflection that makes it so necessary to have this conversation and change these names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

It's actually the resistance on the part of so many white people to engaging in any type of reflection that makes it so necessary to have this conversation and change these names.

Oh, please. Go back through your family history. I guarantee you that you will find lots of skeletons and bad behavior on the part of your ancestors.
Maybe we should do what they do in NYC. PS 12, PS 162, etc. Although someone would eventually take issue with a given number assigned to a certain schools because.....people just need to be outraged about something.

[Anonymous]

I've lived in places where they only use place names for schools, just to avoid these kinds of discussions. So, Red Canyon Elementary School or Mesa Verde Middle School or Black Mountain Secondary School.

It's a good option that avoids controversy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

It's actually the resistance on the part of so many white people to engaging in any type of reflection that makes it so necessary to have this conversation and change these names.

Oh, please. Go back through your family history. I guarantee you that you will find lots of skeletons and bad behavior on the part of your ancestors.
Maybe we should do what they do in NYC. PS 12, PS 162, etc. Although someone would eventually take issue with a given number assigned to a certain schools because.....people just need to be outraged about something.

You are missing the point, presumably on purpose. The issue isn't whether all individuals are flawed, but whether we continue in 2017 to honor white men known to history only because they fought to perpetuate the enslavement of black Americans. Perhaps you'll understand this one day, if you choose to remove your head from your posterior, but in the meanwhile others are moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've lived in places where they only use place names for schools, just to avoid these kinds of discussions. So, Red Canyon Elementary School or Mesa Verde Middle School or Black Mountain Secondary School.

It's a good option that avoids controversy.

Sure. Until some atheist becomes angry at the meaning of “Los Angeles” or someone takes exception to “Jefferson” or “Washington” even though the towns have these names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

It's actually the resistance on the part of so many white people to engaging in any type of reflection that makes it so necessary to have this conversation and change these names.

Oh, please. Go back through your family history. I guarantee you that you will find lots of skeletons and bad behavior on the part of your ancestors.
Maybe we should do what they do in NYC. PS 12, PS 162, etc. Although someone would eventually take issue with a given number assigned to a certain schools because.....people just need to be outraged about something.

You are missing the point, presumably on purpose. The issue isn't whether all individuals are flawed, but whether we continue in 2017 to honor white men known to history only because they fought to perpetuate the enslavement of black Americans. Perhaps you'll understand this one day, if you choose to remove your head from your posterior, but in the meanwhile others are moving forward.

And the answer is- yes we do and should because history is complicated and not comprised of a bunch of angels. Deal with that fact.

[Anonymous]

Folks in here talking like they ready to go to war over the name of a school.
On both sides no less...smh.
That's some irony for your ass.
What kind of lessons are you really teaching by taking shit so seriously and insisting on being so obstinate?
Words don't mean shit. Actions mean everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks in here talking like they ready to go to war over the name of a school.
On both sides no less...smh.
That's some irony for your ass.
What kind of lessons are you really teaching by taking shit so seriously and insisting on being so obstinate?
Words don't mean shit. Actions mean everything.

Thank you for your meaningless words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've lived in places where they only use place names for schools, just to avoid these kinds of discussions. So, Red Canyon Elementary School or Mesa Verde Middle School or Black Mountain Secondary School.

It's a good option that avoids controversy.

Agree. Meanwhile, is it worth spending millions of dollars on changing names when it could be used in the classrooms to help students learn?

Not to mention the expense to individual families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've lived in places where they only use place names for schools, just to avoid these kinds of discussions. So, Red Canyon Elementary School or Mesa Verde Middle School or Black Mountain Secondary School.

It's a good option that avoids controversy.

Unless the place's name has racist roots too- as in the previously mentioned Chesterbrook Elementary School. Many places are named after people.

[Anonymous]

The only people who care about this stuff are white people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only people who care about this stuff are white people.

Lies and more lies. I watched a series of mostly black people testify recently in favor of changing Stuart's name in early June.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hell to the no.

My ancestor is TJ and he may have owned slaves but *shrug* lots of people did back then. It's a reality of history.

I hope this current trend of erasure ends soon, because it's incredibly silly and dumb.

+1
I think the only positive thing about the effort to erase our history is that it is forcing our students (and adult population) to do some research about our ancestors.
Truth is...... you would be hard pressed to find ANY human being without faults or blemishes. We all sin. That is what makes us human.

+1

I find it tedious also that we are suddenly supposed to be ashamed of our history. If you are asian, there's a high likelihood you're related to Genghis Khan who is perhaps the most prolific mass murdered in history. Does that need to be brought up every time? Probably not. IF you are white and related to slave owners- okay. Pretty sure everyone has someone in their history who did something wrong.

We really need to get over this self flagellation as a country. It's incredibly tedious

It's actually the resistance on the part of so many white people to engaging in any type of reflection that makes it so necessary to have this conversation and change these names.

Oh, please. Go back through your family history. I guarantee you that you will find lots of skeletons and bad behavior on the part of your ancestors.
Maybe we should do what they do in NYC. PS 12, PS 162, etc. Although someone would eventually take issue with a given number assigned to a certain schools because.....people just need to be outraged about something.

You are missing the point, presumably on purpose. The issue isn't whether all individuals are flawed, but whether we continue in 2017 to honor white men known to history only because they fought to perpetuate the enslavement of black Americans. Perhaps you'll understand this one day, if you choose to remove your head from your posterior, but in the meanwhile others are moving forward.

And the answer is- yes we do and should because history is complicated and not comprised of a bunch of angels. Deal with that fact.

I've already dealt with it. When are you prepared to stop with the false equivalencies and acknowledge the legacy of racism and discrimination in Fairfax County?