EO just a "shock event" -- what is the real goal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This board is like the internet equivalent of Doomsday Preppers on the National Geographic channel.

Too true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just to follow up on Erovinkin:

"(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.
Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”"

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.nz7eqc9cx

The whole article is worth reading.

Holy shit

Others are saying this, too.


"Everyone is missing what is happening here.

Trump's Muslim ban getting slapped down by courts, the media condemning it, protesters coming out, politicians from both parties finally starting to speak up about it, all tee up something.

Now, with Steve Bannon on the NSC, and the DNI and Chair of the Joint Chiefs sidelined, the ONLY thing that needs to happen is for a big terrorist attack by a Muslim refugee, especially a green card holder. No previous president would ever have done this, but we've gone through the looking glass. That attack would give Trump and Bannon rhetorical space to say that not only are Muslims the problem, but also, politicians from both parties are a problem, the media is a problem, protesters are a problem, and the courts and judges are a problem. They've already prepared all of this. Kellyanne Conway was on TV this morning saying that the ruling of the "Obama appointee judge" doesn't affect the executive order, because the order is "preventing not detaining" and it's only a small percentage of people affected. They're TRYING to cause a Constitutional crisis and tee up the idea that national security, and executive law enforcement, trumps EVERY other consideration. Almost every Latin American country that copied our constitution fell to dictatorship because of that argument that national security trumps court rulings at some point in the last hundred years.

And since Trump's national security establishment has been hollowed out by purges and hiring freezes, and since the Constitution forbids military deployment within the US, Trump can say that government law enforcement isn't working, we need to contract out to private law enforcement.

Erik Prince, the former CEO of Blackwater, the private army that occupied Iraq, is reportedly "advising Trump from the shadows." His sister is Betsy DeVos, one of Trump's biggest donors. There is already a mercenary army waiting in the wings.

Russia won this election for Trump for a reason, and we are failing to appreciate the gravity of it. We are so much closer to zero hour than anyone in Washington seems to realize. Trump is already in violation of the emoluments clause. He MUST be impeached before it's too late."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take eyes off the evidence of KGB executing people who leaked info re Trump. Take eyes off Bandon's NSC machinations. Just a guess.

Anyone else besides Erovinkin?

I think the Russian issue is big here. That conversation was not going well. The Republicans were against him. He has many conflicts of interest.

Now people are discussing a very controversial policy instead of going after him.

There are also the two Russian intelligence officers arrested for treason. Granted, they haven't been executed yet. I'm sure they'll receive the fairest of trials courtesy of Putin. So 3 people formally linked to Trump/election/dossier scandal. But nobody cares because everyone is (rightly) upset about the green card grenade.

Just to follow up on Erovinkin:

"(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.
Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”"

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.nz7eqc9cx

The whole article is worth reading.

This is enough to make me want to become a conspiracy theorist. So disturbing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Police are responding to a shooting at a mosque in Quebec City. Reports of 5-15 dead.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-city-mosque-gun-shots-1.3957686

Buckle up. Things will get worse before they get better.

Canada is liberal Trudeau's territory. WTF does this have to do with Trump?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This board is like the internet equivalent of Doomsday Preppers on the National Geographic channel.

Preppers are conservatives.

Yep. These are liberals in a full state of paranoia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Just to follow up on Erovinkin:

"(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.
Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”"

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.nz7eqc9cx

The whole article is worth reading.

Holy shit

Others are saying this, too.


"Everyone is missing what is happening here.

Trump's Muslim ban getting slapped down by courts, the media condemning it, protesters coming out, politicians from both parties finally starting to speak up about it, all tee up something.

Now, with Steve Bannon on the NSC, and the DNI and Chair of the Joint Chiefs sidelined, the ONLY thing that needs to happen is for a big terrorist attack by a Muslim refugee, especially a green card holder. No previous president would ever have done this, but we've gone through the looking glass. That attack would give Trump and Bannon rhetorical space to say that not only are Muslims the problem, but also, politicians from both parties are a problem, the media is a problem, protesters are a problem, and the courts and judges are a problem. They've already prepared all of this. Kellyanne Conway was on TV this morning saying that the ruling of the "Obama appointee judge" doesn't affect the executive order, because the order is "preventing not detaining" and it's only a small percentage of people affected. They're TRYING to cause a Constitutional crisis and tee up the idea that national security, and executive law enforcement, trumps EVERY other consideration. Almost every Latin American country that copied our constitution fell to dictatorship because of that argument that national security trumps court rulings at some point in the last hundred years.

And since Trump's national security establishment has been hollowed out by purges and hiring freezes, and since the Constitution forbids military deployment within the US, Trump can say that government law enforcement isn't working, we need to contract out to private law enforcement.

Erik Prince, the former CEO of Blackwater, the private army that occupied Iraq, is reportedly "advising Trump from the shadows." His sister is Betsy DeVos, one of Trump's biggest donors. There is already a mercenary army waiting in the wings.

Russia won this election for Trump for a reason, and we are failing to appreciate the gravity of it. We are so much closer to zero hour than anyone in Washington seems to realize. Trump is already in violation of the emoluments clause. He MUST be impeached before it's too late."

Frightening as hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Take eyes off the evidence of KGB executing people who leaked info re Trump. Take eyes off Bandon's NSC machinations. Just a guess.

Anyone else besides Erovinkin?

I think the Russian issue is big here. That conversation was not going well. The Republicans were against him. He has many conflicts of interest.

Now people are discussing a very controversial policy instead of going after him.

There are also the two Russian intelligence officers arrested for treason. Granted, they haven't been executed yet. I'm sure they'll receive the fairest of trials courtesy of Putin. So 3 people formally linked to Trump/election/dossier scandal. But nobody cares because everyone is (rightly) upset about the green card grenade.

Just to follow up on Erovinkin:

"(6) Finally, I want to highlight a story that many people haven’t noticed. On Wednesday, Reuters reported (in great detail) how 19.5% of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, has been sold to parties unknown. This was done through a dizzying array of shell companies, so that the most that can be said with certainty now is that the money “paying” for it was originally loaned out to the shell layers by VTB (the government’s official bank), even though it’s highly unclear who, if anyone, would be paying that loan back; and the recipients have been traced as far as some Cayman Islands shell companies.
Why is this interesting? Because the much-maligned Steele Dossier (the one with the golden showers in it) included the statement that Putin had offered Trump 19% of Rosneft if he became president and removed sanctions. The reason this is so interesting is that the dossier said this in July, and the sale didn’t happen until early December. And 19.5% sounds an awful lot like “19% plus a brokerage commission.”"

https://medium.com/@yonatanzunger/trial-balloon-for-a-coup-e024990891d5#.nz7eqc9cx

The whole article is worth reading.

This is enough to make me want to become a conspiracy theorist. So disturbing!

The truth is, whether or not you believe there is a conspiracy or an intentional strategy, you can't deny that they are laying the groundwork to begin ignoring the judicial branch, protestors on the left, the media, and any politicians who oppose them.

[Anonymous]

This thread is most amusing, given it's on a forum that has a thread asking white people how they will feel being a minority.

And then you wonder why Trump won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is most amusing, given it's on a forum that has a thread asking white people how they will feel being a minority.

And then you wonder why Trump won.

Really? I don't find the executive branch flaunting the judicial branch to be funny at all. But maybe we have different senses of humor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is most amusing, given it's on a forum that has a thread asking white people how they will feel being a minority.

And then you wonder why Trump won.

Really? I don't find the executive branch flaunting the judicial branch to be funny at all. But maybe we have different senses of humor.

You guys need to get your paranoid heads out of your behinds and calm down. I actually just read an article where the author is suggesting that updating the WH website buy putting a photo of Trump where Obama's was, is somehow hostile. WTF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is most amusing, given it's on a forum that has a thread asking white people how they will feel being a minority.

And then you wonder why Trump won.

Really? I don't find the executive branch flaunting the judicial branch to be funny at all. But maybe we have different senses of humor.

You guys need to get your paranoid heads out of your behinds and calm down. I actually just read an article where the author is suggesting that updating the WH website buy putting a photo of Trump where Obama's was, is somehow hostile. WTF?

Yeah, that's what we're talking about here. Interior decoration.

Read the articles posted above. Understand that when Kelly Anne Conway says "alternate facts," that's not funny. That when she claims the emoluments clause of the Constitution was "litigated during the election," that's not funny.

These people have one aim and one aim only. Enriching themselves at others' expense. They don't care if they turn the Constitution inside out and burn this country down to the ground doing it. As they continue to the throw dog whistles to one side of their base and claims about the "lying media" to the other, they are building up the case for ignoring our judicial branch and establishing their own security force. Ignore at your peril.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The truth is, whether or not you believe there is a conspiracy or an intentional strategy, you can't deny that they are laying the groundwork to begin ignoring the judicial branch, protestors on the left, the media, and any politicians who oppose them.

This. And there's that poster on the other thread about CBP ignoring the court ruling who is arguing that Marbury vs. Madison is extra-Constitutional and it's not a violation of their oath for Federal employees to ignore court orders and instead act on their own interpretations of the Constitution. I'm keep bouncing back and forth between feel sheer disbelief of the stupidity of Americans and sheer panic at the magnitude of the conspiracy. I honestly don't know which one is real. I keep hoping that this is like some sort of test or experiment and the adults are going to step back in the room at some point and explain to us the point...but then McConnell's on the morning shows refusing to acknowledge that maybe this whole "ban legal immigrants" thing is a touch extreme even for Congressional Republicans. Meanwhile Cheney's calling it unAmerican.

WTF!

[Anonymous]

So someone is mad about Obama's photo coming down, so our objections to Trump's executive orders are not valid.

Great logic there.

[Anonymous]

I think it's very interesting that the immigration ban just happened to concur with the news that Banning was taking the place of the Joint Chief on Staff from the Pentagon on the National freaking Security Council. Someone definitely does not want us to notice that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The truth is, whether or not you believe there is a conspiracy or an intentional strategy, you can't deny that they are laying the groundwork to begin ignoring the judicial branch, protestors on the left, the media, and any politicians who oppose them.

This. And there's that poster on the other thread about CBP ignoring the court ruling who is arguing that Marbury vs. Madison is extra-Constitutional and it's not a violation of their oath for Federal employees to ignore court orders and instead act on their own interpretations of the Constitution. I'm keep bouncing back and forth between feel sheer disbelief of the stupidity of Americans and sheer panic at the magnitude of the conspiracy. I honestly don't know which one is real. I keep hoping that this is like some sort of test or experiment and the adults are going to step back in the room at some point and explain to us the point...but then McConnell's on the morning shows refusing to acknowledge that maybe this whole "ban legal immigrants" thing is a touch extreme even for Congressional Republicans. Meanwhile Cheney's calling it unAmerican.

WTF!

https://twitter.com/ReutersZengerle/status/825819255908290560

http://usuncut.com/news/white-house-website-explaining-judicial-branch-deleted/