Why is it O.K. for liberals to casually use slurs like redneck, trailer trash, flyover state?

[Anonymous]

Redneck woman. If a redneck can use the term why can't everyone.

[Anonymous]

And libtard is ok?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And libtard is ok?!

"liberalism is a mental disorder"
"leftist" "commie" and a slew of other pejoratives...
likening liberals to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, et cetera...
And all of the other things we see on DCUM on a daily basis...
Is any of that OK?

[Anonymous]

The conservative elite routinely use terms like "redneck" "trailer trash" et cetera.

[Anonymous]

That Gretchen Wilson song pretty much illustrates every point above. Source of pride.

[Anonymous]

If they say it on country radio, it's fair game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Redneck woman. If a redneck can use the term why can't everyone.

Same reason why back rappers can say what they say bit others cannot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2009/11/18/stand-up-notes-from-flyover-country-dithering-on-afghanistan/

Breitbart used the term flyover country way back in 2009.

FYSA: conservative elites are likely the ones who coined the terms redneck, flyover country, and white trash...to distinguish themselves from the less-than whites (since the conservative elites are white and live in the same red states). Now they use the terms to manipulate the lower-class by saying the liberal elites believe they are dim-witted trash. It's quite befuddling given that liberals champion the safety net and work in the social service/anti-poverty advocacy arena. I suppose they might learn what's what under a Trump administration with republican control of the congress. If they decimate the safety net, destroy Medicare and SS, make health care worse, decrease benefits, and harm the economy, then maybe they will understand which party cares about others and which party only cares about the wealthy.

Conservative elites live in the same places as liberal elites.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So is it okay when conservatives use those slurs?

While I don't think the term "flyover" is derogatory, the rules of use as it relates to these words and all others should apply equally to both parties. I think OP's point is that liberals hold their party out as the one of tolerance, inclusion, and acceptance, and what is clear following this election, if it wasn't clear before, is that these traits are often only exhibited to people who share the same beliefs or are covered by in one of their pet causes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2009/11/18/stand-up-notes-from-flyover-country-dithering-on-afghanistan/

Breitbart used the term flyover country way back in 2009.

FYSA: conservative elites are likely the ones who coined the terms redneck, flyover country, and white trash...to distinguish themselves from the less-than whites (since the conservative elites are white and live in the same red states). Now they use the terms to manipulate the lower-class by saying the liberal elites believe they are dim-witted trash. It's quite befuddling given that liberals champion the safety net and work in the social service/anti-poverty advocacy arena. I suppose they might learn what's what under a Trump administration with republican control of the congress. If they decimate the safety net, destroy Medicare and SS, make health care worse, decrease benefits, and harm the economy, then maybe they will understand which party cares about others and which party only cares about the wealthy.

Conservative elites live in the same places as liberal elites.

Yup, this is mostly true. Which means much of politics ends up being the rest of the populace being used for something like dog fights by two gangs (Sharks? Jets? Montagues? Capulets?) fighting for turf in the same hood. Fucking awful, IMO!

[Anonymous]

Race is the reason socialist policies are resisted in the US: those who would benefit are made to believe that the other race/underserving poors would benefiting more.

Trump basically promised socialism but only for the right sort of people. I see his election- and the animus of Trump voters against 'normal' GOP politicians - as a sign that the days of small government are over.

I know it seems crazy now but it will happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The term flyover state seems like it is unique to DCUM. DCUM was the first I saw it being used it, and is the only place I see or hear people use it. I think if you used it IRL, many people wouldn't understand the reference.

Trailer trash is extremely derogatory. Again, I have rarely if ever heard of someone refer to another person as TT IRL. Don't even see it that often on DCUM. Does an anonymous forum bring out the worst in us? I don't know. But folks who say this should be called out on it, because it is not okay. I'm liberal, but I would think a lot less of someone who called another person TT.

Redneck is interesting, because it is not universally thought to be derogatory. I grew up in the very poor rural Deep South, and some people there refer to themselves as redneck, and are proud of that label. My ILs grew up, and still live in this environment. They are solidly middle class. Not wealthy, but not poor (2 teachers). But I have heard my FIL call himself a redneck. Often when putting us down for living in such a high COL area, with the traffic, competition, high housing prices, etc. and, FWIW, my ILs are strong, lifelong democrats.

A lot of the white people who also attended my poor, rural Southern high school, and stayed in the down we grew up in also post "Proud to be a redneck" type memes on Facebook.
So, there is a certain cohort of people born and raised in the South that embrace the redneck label as indicating they have simple tastes, live in a rural area, drive a pickup truck and are proud of Southern culture and heritage.

Lots of folks think like this:
https://nicholsoutdoors.com/2013/12/28/rednecks-vs-city-folk-why-i-am-proud-to-be-a-redneck/

Redneck isn't a term I would feel comfortable using, but you don't know a lot about the poor rural South if you think it is universally an insult.

I read the link you provided and really liked what he had to say about being prepared. He's absolutely right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Race is the reason socialist policies are resisted in the US: those who would benefit are made to believe that the other race/underserving poors would benefiting more.

Trump basically promised socialism but only for the right sort of people. I see his election- and the animus of Trump voters against 'normal' GOP politicians - as a sign that the days of small government are over.

I know it seems crazy now but it will happen.

So much wrong here, I cannot even begin to unpack it. But, the first statement is the most glaring. Sorry, if that were the case, why didn't we have socialism years ago in the states that were not diverse?

Where did Trump promise socialism? And, I assume you mean his wealthy friends when you say the "right sort of people". This makes no sense at all.

I do fear that he will bring in big government--which is responsible for many of the problems we have now. But, socialism, I sure hope not. It doesn't work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And libtard is ok?!

"liberalism is a mental disorder"
"leftist" "commie" and a slew of other pejoratives...
likening liberals to Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, et cetera...
And all of the other things we see on DCUM on a daily basis...
Is any of that OK?

I constantly see people on DCUM likening Trump to Hitler - which is laughable. Is that ok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So is it okay when conservatives use those slurs?

While I don't think the term "flyover" is derogatory, the rules of use as it relates to these words and all others should apply equally to both parties. I think OP's point is that liberals hold their party out as the one of tolerance, inclusion, and acceptance, and what is clear following this election, if it wasn't clear before, is that these traits are often only exhibited to people who share the same beliefs or are covered by in one of their pet causes.

This is precisely it. In a nutshell.