S/O disrespectful teen on the metro? What are we as parents doing wrong?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

OP again, my post had nothing at all to do with AA teens in particular. Most teens behaving badly that I see are not AA.

[Anonymous]

My kids never behaved like that girl. If they did I would disown them. One thing I can't stand, bad manners. NO EXCUSE.

If you ever watch parking wars on A & E, you see the most disrespectful adults on the planet. Maybe it's the urban environment. Their kids follow suit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Yeah ok.. fight the power eat food on the metro

exactly

I think you are mis reading. The poster is saying that the defensiveness type behavior comes from the days of slavery when people would have to always prove themselves. This culture and attitude persists in AA culture and if i am reading it right is ont of the things that holds them back.

I took the fight the power by eating on the metro as sarcasm
As was my response
SMH!
Any idiot who thinks all black folks and black families are sitting around the dinner table school and their kids on how to get out of life by harking back to slavery must walk around with their head up their ass all damn day

[Anonymous]

^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Another poster - agreed! If you someone needs to insult someone to prove their point it further points out the weaknesses in their argument. I do not see the Trump version of the african american culture, but also see in DC that kids on the metro are horrible behaved. IN addition to the release of Wilson kids after school is a total mess. Yes I see more african american kids behaving poorly, but I do not stereotype ALL of them. Actually, I find that all students that leave school later due to sports and other activities are better behaved overall. This may also indicate something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

I would never assume to give you advice. It is very clear to everyone that you are doing such a great job solving all the problems of black kids in DC. Never mind all the black folk in America.

I understand that there is a diversity of people, and I also understand as have stated that the solution needs to come internally from the community. I just know that pointing outward will not solve the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

I would never assume to give you advice. It is very clear to everyone that you are doing such a great job solving all the problems of black kids in DC. Never mind all the black folk in America.

I understand that there is a diversity of people, and I also understand as have stated that the solution needs to come internally from the community. I just know that pointing outward will not solve the problem.

Again I ask
What
Community????
Which one ???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

I would never assume to give you advice. It is very clear to everyone that you are doing such a great job solving all the problems of black kids in DC. Never mind all the black folk in America.

I understand that there is a diversity of people, and I also understand as have stated that the solution needs to come internally from the community. I just know that pointing outward will not solve the problem.

Again I ask
What
Community????
Which one ???[/quote


The different black communities... as black people do not want help or advise from white people, they need to fix any self perceived problems in their own communities. It must come from within in order to be culturally appropriate or accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

I would never assume to give you advice. It is very clear to everyone that you are doing such a great job solving all the problems of black kids in DC. Never mind all the black folk in America.

I understand that there is a diversity of people, and I also understand as have stated that the solution needs to come internally from the community. I just know that pointing outward will not solve the problem.

Again I ask
What
Community????
Which one ???[/quote


The different black communities... as black people do not want help or advise from white people, they need to fix any self perceived problems in their own communities. It must come from within in order to be culturally appropriate or accepted.

Why ?
Seriously why do I need to go to Southeast to try to "fix" that community? Just because I am black?
I live somewhere else , why do I need to go there , just because I am black?
Are you going to Appalacia or any other area rural or urban to combat heroine and meth addiction among white people??
Come on, you have to realize how ridiculous your premise is !
But maybe u don't !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ I think the poster was lamenting on a cultural issue that dates back to that time. Not discussing it over dinner

Please be quiet and take a seat, grown folk atectalkingcand you are just inserting yourself to make up stuff about black people.

OK - though I am not the one that wrote the below - its sounds like an AA did. It looks like your reaction is a perfect example of what this person is talking about - you need to fight and prove yourself to make a point rather than discuss an issue in an intelligent manner. I have made nothing up - just interpreting what I perceive to be a misunderstanding of what this person is trying to express. Although - I am a bit more optimistic and think it can go away with time and a change in social norms and expectation of future opportunities.


Anonymous wrote:
The real problem is African American teens. The mentality that we, as African Americans, need to still fight and prove ourselves like that of slavery days. Sadly it will never go away.

Intellectual Response to idiocy is a waste of time.
Here is the short answer: black people really and truly do not need you telling us what we should do and the so called problems plaguing the millions of different black folk in America!

I would never assume to give you advice. It is very clear to everyone that you are doing such a great job solving all the problems of black kids in DC. Never mind all the black folk in America.

I understand that there is a diversity of people, and I also understand as have stated that the solution needs to come internally from the community. I just know that pointing outward will not solve the problem.

Again I ask
What
Community????
Which one ???[/quote


The different black communities... as black people do not want help or advise from white people, they need to fix any self perceived problems in their own communities. It must come from within in order to be culturally appropriate or accepted.

Why ?
Seriously why do I need to go to Southeast to try to "fix" that community? Just because I am black?
I live somewhere else , why do I need to go there , just because I am black?
Are you going to Appalacia or any other area rural or urban to combat heroine and meth addiction among white people??
Come on, you have to realize how ridiculous your premise is !
But maybe u don't !

Clearly literacy is the issue here. I would never to presume to tell you to do anything. I am saying that if any individual community it to change it must come from within the community itself. On a micro-or-macro level. It would not be accepted by the community if directed by external factors.

Actually, I do volunteer in DC to work with young people with HIV/AIDS. I consider DC in general my community. If there were more white meth addicts in DC within a metro ride away I may also help them but really do not have the skills with drug addiction. I have also worked several years in Africa working with communities in post conflict situations reintegrating child combatants back into communities.

Now, what do you do to help any community?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are so many teens in this area that are so obnoxious, so disrespectful and I think it comes down to parents in most cases. Rich, middle class and poor alike. Students harassing and bullying teachers is common occurrence today, and then often parents taking kid's side rather than disciplining the kid. What do you think we should do differently, why are there so many kids who feel they can insult and bully teachers, parents, police officers? What are we doing wrong? Teens were always rebellious and there was always talking back, but I think now it is becoming like a contagious disease with no boundaries. What should we as parents do?[/quot


Over the weeks I walk my dogs through the streets of my NW DC neighborhood where there are very clear signs that many children live but I never hear or see any of them. I think this has something to do with. To much structured time and not enough free time and a sense of community togetherness. As I kid I would never behave poorly knowing the parents of one of my friends may see me and tell my parents. This is what is lost. Community and accountability. This leads to normal poor teen behavior to compound itself

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are so many teens in this area that are so obnoxious, so disrespectful and I think it comes down to parents in most cases. Rich, middle class and poor alike. Students harassing and bullying teachers is common occurrence today, and then often parents taking kid's side rather than disciplining the kid. What do you think we should do differently, why are there so many kids who feel they can insult and bully teachers, parents, police officers? What are we doing wrong? Teens were always rebellious and there was always talking back, but I think now it is becoming like a contagious disease with no boundaries. What should we as parents do?[/quot


Over the weeks I walk my dogs through the streets of my NW DC neighborhood where there are very clear signs that many children live but I never hear or see any of them. I think this has something to do with. To much structured time and not enough free time and a sense of community togetherness. As I kid I would never behave poorly knowing the parents of one of my friends may see me and tell my parents. This is what is lost. Community and accountability. This leads to normal poor teen behavior to compound itself

This makes a lot of sense. Too much structured time and no proper socializing and engaging in unstructured activities with peers, by a tutor, in sports, etc..No neighbour boy to come home crying about a kid kicking him or his bike, and then parents to go talk to that kid's parents. I do remember my grandma would sit on the porch and always comment how such and such was walking with a boy/girl they didn't know, wasn't from here. And she wasn't sitting alone, all other older women were there with her, chatting and what we call gossiping. But, everybody knew everything that was going on, now nobody knows anything.