Vegetarians who act like " victims "

[Anonymous]

OP, you are clueless as she is. A vegetarian does not eat fish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With thanksgiving approaching - this reminds me. I have a relative, she's a single middle aged woman, and she always makes a big production out of coming for thanksgiving. I hate the way she feels entitled and had to make constant comments about how she doesn't eat meat. I don't think of thanksgiving as a carnivores holiday. Please. There are lots of options. Last holiday she asked my sister in law to prepare a fish dish. Sister in law refused and a fight ensued.
Relative feels SiL is not being a good host and should make a special dish. I say - there's plenty else to eat and if it's a real issue bring a small dish of your own or eat beforehand. Fact of the matter is - I actually don't enjoy turkey and usually end up eating lots of salad and veggies and the cheeses and breads. It's not like anyone is going to starve at a thanksgiving meal.
This same relative refused to join us for a family dinner because we chose Capital Grille. She made a big fuss out of how "I can't go to a place like that - I don't eat meat!!" Meanwhile they have plenty of fish on the menu - which she does eat! Yet she had no problem coming along when we had dinner at Four Seasons last year and that restaurant is similar to Capital Grille.
Anyone else feel that vegetarians just like to call attention to themselves and be difficult.

What a troll post! Seriously, you're going to generalize all vegetarians because of this difficult relative?!

I know a lot of Veggies who act like this. OP is right.

[Anonymous]

I still have to hear about SIL's trip to Europe and how she just had nothing to eat, I mean she starved the whole time. This was 25 years ago. And how because there was nothing for her to eat, she put on weight during her trip 25 years ago and never lost it. Plus OP's relative isn't a vegetarian. She is a fakeaterian doing it for attention.

[Anonymous]

I'm a pescatarian, although I don't tell anyone or make a big production out of it. My BIL and sister are vegans. I want to eat steak when they are around just to spite them. They make all sorts of lofty remarks about how they're so wonderful for eating "cruelty-free" whatever the heck that means. I have asked pointed questions about the plight of migrant workers who harvest their "cruelty-free" vegetables in response (remember I don't eat meat either but can't stand their attitude). I like it if someone remembers to have an option for me, but the reality is that (1) I won't die if I accidentally eat meat (2) we can all chill a bit.

Seriously can't stand these "look at me" vegetarians!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a pescatarian, although I don't tell anyone or make a big production out of it. My BIL and sister are vegans. I want to eat steak when they are around just to spite them. They make all sorts of lofty remarks about how they're so wonderful for eating "cruelty-free" whatever the heck that means. I have asked pointed questions about the plight of migrant workers who harvest their "cruelty-free" vegetables in response (remember I don't eat meat either but can't stand their attitude). I like it if someone remembers to have an option for me, but the reality is that (1) I won't die if I accidentally eat meat (2) we can all chill a bit.

Seriously can't stand these "look at me" vegetarians!

I said I don't tell anyone- that's not quite true. I mean that I don't start screaming "where is my vegetarian option you cruel carnivore!" When someone suggests dinner. My close friends know, but I've never done a big dramatic announcement like my sister did via email, complete with photos of slaughterhouses and a donation link to some charity she supports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With thanksgiving approaching - this reminds me. I have a relative, she's a single middle aged woman, and she always makes a big production out of coming for thanksgiving. I hate the way she feels entitled and had to make constant comments about how she doesn't eat meat. I don't think of thanksgiving as a carnivores holiday. Please. There are lots of options. Last holiday she asked my sister in law to prepare a fish dish. Sister in law refused and a fight ensued.
Relative feels SiL is not being a good host and should make a special dish. I say - there's plenty else to eat and if it's a real issue bring a small dish of your own or eat beforehand. Fact of the matter is - I actually don't enjoy turkey and usually end up eating lots of salad and veggies and the cheeses and breads. It's not like anyone is going to starve at a thanksgiving meal.
This same relative refused to join us for a family dinner because we chose Capital Grille. She made a big fuss out of how "I can't go to a place like that - I don't eat meat!!" Meanwhile they have plenty of fish on the menu - which she does eat! Yet she had no problem coming along when we had dinner at Four Seasons last year and that restaurant is similar to Capital Grille.
Anyone else feel that vegetarians just like to call attention to themselves and be difficult.

She should really think about a new profession then. If she can't handle eating animals, how could she handle treating animals?

[Anonymous]

I find it odd that she exclaims, "I don't eat meat!!" yet will still willingly consume fish.

A life is a life.

[Anonymous]

doodlebug wrote:I think her biggest mistake is calling herself a vegetarian when she eats fish. Um, fish is meat. If she eats fish and no other types of meat then she's a pescatarian, not a vegetarian. That's my pet peeve about anyone who's a tarian of any type.

It's easier to just say vegetarian. For one, pescatarian implies that your primary source of protein is fish. And there are lots of people who don't really eat much fish/seafood (as in, they don't cook it at home), but will eat seafood in rare instances when eating out because the few vegetarian options don't work for them.

My issue with most vegetarian options at restaurants is that they are heavy on the cheese or they don't really have any protein (think some cheesy pasta dish or the reverse is something with eggplant but no real protein source). So while they'd prefer to be vegetarian all of the time, they've adapted to eat fish when out with others on an infrequent basis.

The other thing is most people look at you funny when you say pescatarian. It's easier to say "I'm mostly vegetarian, but I will eat seafood on occasion."

[Anonymous]

22:39 here. I should add that I don't go around lecturing people about what they eat or seeking attention about what I eat. But if I'm somewhere, I will ask people what is in dishes. And that is how most people know that I don't eat red meat, poultry, lamb, rabbit, deer, or pork (most types of meat). It's amazing how nasty people can get, though, if they find out I don't eat these things. I almost avoid/hide it because I don't need yet another person to say in a nasty tone, "it's not a meal unless there's meat!" So for every rude vegetarian/pescatarian, there's at least 4 rude carnivores.

I never expect people to make special dishes for me. For holidays, I eat before we go to inlaws.

[Anonymous]

OP here. Yes she does often clarify and say pescatarian. I think she says vegetarian initially because it's easier.
Funny thing is that I don't like meat but love fish. I avoid meat and will always choose seafood or vegetable dish at restaurants. And don't ever cook meat at home. But I don't label myself as anything. It's just a personal taste preference. Guess I'm just venting because she is a slightly annoying person who likes to be the center of attention. This is another way she gets attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Yes she does often clarify and say pescatarian. I think she says vegetarian initially because it's easier.
Funny thing is that I don't like meat but love fish. I avoid meat and will always choose seafood or vegetable dish at restaurants. And don't ever cook meat at home. But I don't label myself as anything. It's just a personal taste preference. Guess I'm just venting because she is a slightly annoying person who likes to be the center of attention. This is another way she gets attention.

Then your issue is with her, but you were obnoxious in claiming it's "vegetarians who act like victims."

Vegetarians and pescatarians are still in the minority, and most have gotten their share of nastiness from others.

I'm the one who wrote I don't expect people to make things for me, but I will say I don't feel included at events at my inlaws. I used to bring a vegetarian protein dish, but they were rude about that. It's almost like they were offended. Meanwhile, they put meat in everything -- bacon in the salad, ham in the mac and cheese. It would be nice if just once they'd just leave ham out of the mac and cheese. Or if they'd be less nasty if I offer to bring a dish. But I don't say anything to them about it because I suspect they'd be like you and accuse me of acting like a victim or making a fuss. So I say nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think her issue is not that she's a vegetarian, but that she's a jerk. She'd probably be a jerk about something else, if not about this.

I know plenty of nice and easygoing vegetarians, and a few jerky ones. But the jerky ones are like that about other things, too.

Annoying, though. I can see why you don't enjoy her company.

+1

I also know jerky carnivores.

Also, she is a pescatarian (a person who does not eat meat but eats fish.) not a vegetarian.

I'm a pescetarian. If someone asks me why I don't eat certain things and I don't feel like having a conversation about it, I say I'm a vegetarian. Many people don't know what a pescetarian is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP again. Yes I guess this is a vent. Not trying to label all vegetarians. Just wonder if anyone else knows someone with similar behavior to this.

Lol this is like asking if anyone else knows someone who acts like a jerk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a vegetarian and I LOVE Thanksgiving!!! There is so much to eat, and so many good veggie options! Your relative should make and bring a vegetarian dish if she wants something in particular. Otherwise, suck it up and enjoy all the delicious sides and leave the ratty turkey to the others.

OP, I'm with you that your relative is annoying, but you were annoying in your original post where you bashed all vegetarians. I know you subsequently backed off that, but that wasn't cool.

+1 I'm vegetarian and my family members are carnivores.
When we are on vacation with extended family and they prepare a meat dish,
I just buy some veggie burgers and eat them with the sides everyone else is eating. No biggie.
I will also usually prepare a vegetarian dish at Thanksgiving.

I just think your relative is a jerk, but that's separate from being a vegetarian.
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:22:39 here. I should add that I don't go around lecturing people about what they eat or seeking attention about what I eat. But if I'm somewhere, I will ask people what is in dishes. And that is how most people know that I don't eat red meat, poultry, lamb, rabbit, deer, or pork (most types of meat). It's amazing how nasty people can get, though, if they find out I don't eat these things. I almost avoid/hide it because I don't need yet another person to say in a nasty tone, "it's not a meal unless there's meat!" So for every rude vegetarian/pescatarian, there's at least 4 rude carnivores.

I never expect people to make special dishes for me. For holidays, I eat before we go to inlaws.

Agree 1000% that there are carnivores who get super aggressive when they find out I'm vegetarian. It's really strange. I don't care what they eat; why should they care so much what I eat?