Loretta Lynch scrubbing Orlando 911 tapes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curiously, WaPo reports the transcript release differently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/19/attorney-general-government-to-release-some-911-calls-with-orlando-shooter/

I actually kind of agree that there's no reason to air his pledge of allegiance to ISIS (the caliphate). It's quite a reward for doing a bad thing, however sincere or insincere he was about it. We all know he did, and releasing a tape or transcript of it seems to further his ends and possibly encourage others to copy him.

Whatever information is or is not released, I won't be reading or listening to it, personally. Everyone else will have to find out what is released and what is redacted without me.

We know he did it. We also know this administration insists on calling him a lone wolf, while the CIA and FBI is discovering otherwise. Seems to me there are things he said in that tape that Obama and Lynch do not want us to hear.

The further his end and encourage others part? Are you kidding me? These terrorists know their goal. They will strike regardless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems releasing his ranting shirt glorifies his insane world view. Why would you do that?

Exactly.

I can never figure out why people always want us to react exactly as terrorists want.

So what you are saying is if you don't react, they will simply stop? These are not 3 year old children having a temper tantrum. These are murderous religious nuts who are fed by their own religious ideals. They will now stop because you say "go in peace" or simply ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Is there such a great threat of activating Islamic terrorists that we must be careful about even uttering a word in fear of them ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She shouldn't be doing that. But we haven't shown ourselves to be very rational, as a country, lately. Maybe when we're all able to act like adults, she'll release the unedited tapes.

So let's look at this. I'm a Jew. I say never again. And mean it. But people have 'never again' a bit mixed up. Back during rise of the Nazis, there wasn't a group of radical Jews mixing amongst peaceful Jews, killing everyone in their path in the name of Judaism and God. There weren't Jews who were outright saying they wanted to kill us - and have done it over and over again to prove their point. We KNOW this isn't all Muslims. We DO know this is SOME Muslims. So it stands to reason, Mosques should get greater scrutiny, given we have seen some of Imams share the same views as the attackers (see video of Imam at Orlando mosque saying killing gays is doing them a favor). It stands to reason we would want to slow down or stop the bringing in of refugees until we can screen them properly, not half-assed. And for God's sakes, work with the churches in Syria to bring in Christian Syrians who are being persecuted by ISIS. I dare say the priests there know their parishioners and have for a very long time. Europe is a very good lesson as to why it makes no sense to wantonly bring people in. Our own CIA and FBI have warned they cannot properly vet.

We know who our enemy is - Radical Islam. They are screaming it from the rooftops. It's time we listen and do it right.

PP here. I think you are both over and underestimating Islam and Muslims. But I was referring to Ebola, Zika, and other recent episodes of mass hysteria in this country. We're not rational people, in general.

I disagree with many of your points, but you sound reasonable. Many people lately simply sound hysterical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems releasing his ranting shirt glorifies his insane world view. Why would you do that?

Exactly.

I can never figure out why people always want us to react exactly as terrorists want.

Because the Right and the terrorists have a more shared worldview than they'd like to admit.

Funny, those on the right would say this about the left. So a bad argument, for either side really. Let's not make this radical Muslims plus far right Americans vs. the left and good Muslims. You have no right.

How about radical Muslims vs. the left, the right, the middle, the gay, the straight, and yes people who speak out against gay 'rights', homeless, women, children, religious and non religious. We're all American and that's what we have in common. The left is trying to divide here and it's scary.

You are exactly right PP. EXACTLY!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curiously, WaPo reports the transcript release differently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/19/attorney-general-government-to-release-some-911-calls-with-orlando-shooter/

I actually kind of agree that there's no reason to air his pledge of allegiance to ISIS (the caliphate). It's quite a reward for doing a bad thing, however sincere or insincere he was about it. We all know he did, and releasing a tape or transcript of it seems to further his ends and possibly encourage others to copy him.

Whatever information is or is not released, I won't be reading or listening to it, personally. Everyone else will have to find out what is released and what is redacted without me.

We know he did it. We also know this administration insists on calling him a lone wolf, while the CIA and FBI is discovering otherwise. Seems to me there are things he said in that tape that Obama and Lynch do not want us to hear.

The further his end and encourage others part? Are you kidding me? These terrorists know their goal. They will strike regardless.

You don't think it's a really big reward? Why does he deserve that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bush didn't release the 9/11 blackbox recordings of the hijackers. Where was your outrage then?

There was no controversy in American minds as to who caused 9/11. There was no whitewashing.

Lol right. There was a perfectly logical reason for the Iraq war.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She shouldn't be doing that. But we haven't shown ourselves to be very rational, as a country, lately. Maybe when we're all able to act like adults, she'll release the unedited tapes.

So let's look at this. I'm a Jew. I say never again. And mean it. But people have 'never again' a bit mixed up. Back during rise of the Nazis, there wasn't a group of radical Jews mixing amongst peaceful Jews, killing everyone in their path in the name of Judaism and God. There weren't Jews who were outright saying they wanted to kill us - and have done it over and over again to prove their point. We KNOW this isn't all Muslims. We DO know this is SOME Muslims. So it stands to reason, Mosques should get greater scrutiny, given we have seen some of Imams share the same views as the attackers (see video of Imam at Orlando mosque saying killing gays is doing them a favor). It stands to reason we would want to slow down or stop the bringing in of refugees until we can screen them properly, not half-assed. And for God's sakes, work with the churches in Syria to bring in Christian Syrians who are being persecuted by ISIS. I dare say the priests there know their parishioners and have for a very long time. Europe is a very good lesson as to why it makes no sense to wantonly bring people in. Our own CIA and FBI have warned they cannot properly vet.

We know who our enemy is - Radical Islam. They are screaming it from the rooftops. It's time we listen and do it right.

PP here. I think you are both over and underestimating Islam and Muslims. But I was referring to Ebola, Zika, and other recent episodes of mass hysteria in this country. We're not rational people, in general.

I disagree with many of your points, but you sound reasonable. Many people lately simply sound hysterical.

They have a right to be frightened, given our government is not taking this threat seriously, and are, in fact, protecting those individuals who have said they want to kill us. 49 people are dead in Orlando as a result of nothing more than political correctness - our best and brightest being hamstrung by an ideologue with a bone to pick with America. Those people died in vain because so many people have not learned.

People aren't 'hysterical' due to the diseases, et al. They are 'hysterical' because they know we have a government so corrupt, they have lost the desire to protect their own people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curiously, WaPo reports the transcript release differently.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/19/attorney-general-government-to-release-some-911-calls-with-orlando-shooter/

I actually kind of agree that there's no reason to air his pledge of allegiance to ISIS (the caliphate). It's quite a reward for doing a bad thing, however sincere or insincere he was about it. We all know he did, and releasing a tape or transcript of it seems to further his ends and possibly encourage others to copy him.

Whatever information is or is not released, I won't be reading or listening to it, personally. Everyone else will have to find out what is released and what is redacted without me.

We know he did it. We also know this administration insists on calling him a lone wolf, while the CIA and FBI is discovering otherwise. Seems to me there are things he said in that tape that Obama and Lynch do not want us to hear.

The further his end and encourage others part? Are you kidding me? These terrorists know their goal. They will strike regardless.

You don't think it's a really big reward? Why does he deserve that?

No I don't. I think he's dead and it doesn't matter. I think the reward was that he killed 49 gay people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a great threat of activating Islamic terrorists that we must be careful about even uttering a word in fear of them ?

Bingo. That is elephant in the room, now isn't it....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems releasing his ranting shirt glorifies his insane world view. Why would you do that?

Exactly.

I can never figure out why people always want us to react exactly as terrorists want.

So what you are saying is if you don't react, they will simply stop? These are not 3 year old children having a temper tantrum. These are murderous religious nuts who are fed by their own religious ideals. They will now stop because you say "go in peace" or simply ignore them.

That's NOT stop, not now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a great threat of activating Islamic terrorists that we must be careful about even uttering a word in fear of them ?

Bingo. That is elephant in the room, now isn't it....

Radical Islam wants to have a war with the US, because having an enemy brings people together. We don't want a war with radical Islam, nor do we want to push moderate Muslims into choosing for or against us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems releasing his ranting shirt glorifies his insane world view. Why would you do that?

Exactly.

I can never figure out why people always want us to react exactly as terrorists want.

So what you are saying is if you don't react, they will simply stop? These are not 3 year old children having a temper tantrum. These are murderous religious nuts who are fed by their own religious ideals. They will now stop because you say "go in peace" or simply ignore them.

No. I'm saying that broadcasting terrorists message is broadcasting the terrorist's message. You understand that was the reason he wanted it recorded, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there such a great threat of activating Islamic terrorists that we must be careful about even uttering a word in fear of them ?

Bingo. That is elephant in the room, now isn't it....

Radical Islam wants to have a war with the US, because having an enemy brings people together. We don't want a war with radical Islam, nor do we want to push moderate Muslims into choosing for or against us.

And yet, for the first time ever, we are allowing the war to come to our own shores. The stupidity is astounding.

Moderate Muslims have already chosen - they are more loyal to their religion than they are to our country:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/10/51-of-u-s-muslims-want-sharia-60-of-young-muslims-more-loyal-to-islam-than-to-u-s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems releasing his ranting shirt glorifies his insane world view. Why would you do that?

Exactly.

I can never figure out why people always want us to react exactly as terrorists want.

So what you are saying is if you don't react, they will simply stop? These are not 3 year old children having a temper tantrum. These are murderous religious nuts who are fed by their own religious ideals. They will now stop because you say "go in peace" or simply ignore them.

No. I'm saying that broadcasting terrorists message is broadcasting the terrorist's message. You understand that was the reason he wanted it recorded, right?

Again, his goal was accomplished. 49 infidels dead. Do you think that hasn't already been broadcast? You act as if Lynch will be releasing some hidden finding.

Lynch and Obama are editing the recording for political purposes only. They do not want Americans further incensed - it will expose their lies and bring more individuals to conservative values.