Missing woman search in Shenandoah

[Anonymous]

Bad journalism by Peggy Fox. VSP says no baby - someone else created the registry.

[Anonymous]

I think she intended to disappear, she was separated. gone wed and no one notices until friday when she misses work. she told no one. which seems intentional. there are bullying comments about her and other fairfax firefighters.

i think they are closing the trails because of other info they are not releasing. otherwise they would want everyone on the trails looking.

hope someone goes after the posters on ffx underground. someone was going after this woman.

see - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?305330-VA-Nicole-Clardy-Mittendorff-31-Woodbridge-13-April-2016/page41&s=6075b106cc6164ec33726b7b4adae87f

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

I agree with you in general, but will just point out that you are seriously conflating risks here. Injury, hypothermia, disorientation = serious risks, especially for a solo hiker at this time of year. Bear attacks, viruses, crazy killers - not something I am going to worry about. You're gonna have to do something incredibly stupid to get one of those black bears to attack you, viruses that you would get in the woods are unlikely to kill you or really make you sick before you get off trail, and crazy stranger killers *have* happened but are less of a risk in the backcountry then on the streets of DC.

Sure this could be one of those cases, but comparing those risks is like comparing the risks of texting and driving to getting struck by lightning. Totally different categories of risk.

Sigh. Please read before you criticize. I know what I'm talking about and this is why I inserted the bolded above, to differentiate the categories of risk.
If you didn't even want these varying probabilities in the same sentence, too bad, but I made myself clear.

[Anonymous]

Word through the grapevine is she and her husband were planning to split- hence why he wasn't the one who reported her, but rather her job did 3 days later. Her soon to be ex-husband is also a cop, and the car is most likely a plant.

[Anonymous]

Wonder if the fire and her disappearance are related. Notice the fire didn't start until the day after her job reported she was missing..

[Anonymous]

So he lit her body on fire to rid the evidence, and caused the fire? Idk. I mean could be possible I guess. I read that it was caused by an electrical short in someone's basement, though

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

I agree with you in general, but will just point out that you are seriously conflating risks here. Injury, hypothermia, disorientation = serious risks, especially for a solo hiker at this time of year. Bear attacks, viruses, crazy killers - not something I am going to worry about. You're gonna have to do something incredibly stupid to get one of those black bears to attack you, viruses that you would get in the woods are unlikely to kill you or really make you sick before you get off trail, and crazy stranger killers *have* happened but are less of a risk in the backcountry then on the streets of DC.

Sure this could be one of those cases, but comparing those risks is like comparing the risks of texting and driving to getting struck by lightning. Totally different categories of risk.

Sigh. Please read before you criticize. I know what I'm talking about and this is why I inserted the bolded above, to differentiate the categories of risk.
If you didn't even want these varying probabilities in the same sentence, too bad, but I made myself clear.

I'm not the previous poster but I do appreciate your expertise. How many times in the last year has someone in the Northeast died from one of these common
threats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

This really isn't applicable to Shenandoah NP. I think at its widest you are talking 6 miles, so depending on which side of the mountain you are on you are never more than 2-3 miles from someone's backyard. You could get lost/turned around on the trails, but because of the topography it really would be rather difficult to get lost in the woods and very far from a trail or road. Black bear attacks - no that's just not reality. Also really hard to accidently fall. It seems a fall would need to be on purpose.

I find it hard to believe a lone female would randomly go hiking and not text a family member or friend to let them know where she was going, "just in case." It would be very impulsive. Only her family would know whether she tended to go off and do things like that without telling anyone. But most women are going to tell someone their plans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

This really isn't applicable to Shenandoah NP. I think at its widest you are talking 6 miles, so depending on which side of the mountain you are on you are never more than 2-3 miles from someone's backyard. You could get lost/turned around on the trails, but because of the topography it really would be rather difficult to get lost in the woods and very far from a trail or road. Black bear attacks - no that's just not reality. Also really hard to accidently fall. It seems a fall would need to be on purpose.

I find it hard to believe a lone female would randomly go hiking and not text a family member or friend to let them know where she was going, "just in case." It would be very impulsive. Only her family would know whether she tended to go off and do things like that without telling anyone. But most women are going to tell someone their plans.

Or at the least leave a note with a quick itinerary in the car at the trailhead for Rangers to find in car of emergency. Especially if not at an obvious trailhead / trail like (for example) Old Rag.

[Anonymous]

http://wtop.com/virginia/2016/04/family-missing-firefighter-seeks-cell-phone-data/

WASHINGTON — The sister of Nicole Clardy Mittendorff is seeking help in getting access to her sister’s cellphone records, believing they could lead to the Fairfax County firefighter who was last heard from one week ago.

Jennifer Clardy Chalmers says Mittendorff downloaded several files to her cellphone shortly before she disappeared. Chalmers wonders whether the files could be maps, which could provide insight into where her sister was heading.

However, Mittendorff’s wireless carrier, citing federal law, won’t provide information on the data, even though Mittendorff’s father owns the account, according to Chalmers.

She declined to name the wireless carrier.

[Anonymous]

The car in question was seen driving into the park by an elderly woman the same day it was found. She remembered the car because of its uniqueness. Meaning the car was parked there the same day it was found. I still think foul play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The missing woman is a relative of a friend of mine. The entire family is devastated and I can't imagine any foul play on the part of the husband. Shame on you who wish to predict otherwise. This is truly a tragedy that doesn't seem to have a good ending....

When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. Sorry, but the stats are against him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The car in question was seen driving into the park by an elderly woman the same day it was found. She remembered the car because of its uniqueness. Meaning the car was parked there the same day it was found. I still think foul play.

This is so so obvious. The police know it too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

This really isn't applicable to Shenandoah NP. I think at its widest you are talking 6 miles, so depending on which side of the mountain you are on you are never more than 2-3 miles from someone's backyard. You could get lost/turned around on the trails, but because of the topography it really would be rather difficult to get lost in the woods and very far from a trail or road. Black bear attacks - no that's just not reality. Also really hard to accidently fall. It seems a fall would need to be on purpose.

I find it hard to believe a lone female would randomly go hiking and not text a family member or friend to let them know where she was going, "just in case." It would be very impulsive. Only her family would know whether she tended to go off and do things like that without telling anyone. But most women are going to tell someone their plans.

Or at the least leave a note with a quick itinerary in the car at the trailhead for Rangers to find in car of emergency. Especially if not at an obvious trailhead / trail like (for example) Old Rag.

I agree. Actually, every solo hiker I know, regardless of gender, tell someone exactly what trail they are going on and to expect a call in the next couple hours when
the hike is over. I also agree that Shenandoah doesn't seem like a place in which you'd get lost hiking. Everything is clearly marked. The one thing I don't understand
about this scenario, is why she wasn't reported missing until Friday? I must have missed something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Hikers go missing in the woods regularly, because it's REALLY easy to get lost in dense forests, particularly if you leave the trail. You think you can get back on it quickly, after taking a pee or whatever, you go in that direction, and you can't find it again.
It's dangerous to go hiking alone, and as an experienced hiker, she must have known this.

There are also hypothermia risks, and occasionally bear attacks, viruses, and crazy killers.

This really isn't applicable to Shenandoah NP. I think at its widest you are talking 6 miles, so depending on which side of the mountain you are on you are never more than 2-3 miles from someone's backyard. You could get lost/turned around on the trails, but because of the topography it really would be rather difficult to get lost in the woods and very far from a trail or road. Black bear attacks - no that's just not reality. Also really hard to accidently fall. It seems a fall would need to be on purpose.

I find it hard to believe a lone female would randomly go hiking and not text a family member or friend to let them know where she was going, "just in case." It would be very impulsive. Only her family would know whether she tended to go off and do things like that without telling anyone. But most women are going to tell someone their plans.

Or at the least leave a note with a quick itinerary in the car at the trailhead for Rangers to find in car of emergency. Especially if not at an obvious trailhead / trail like (for example) Old Rag.

I agree. Actually, every solo hiker I know, regardless of gender, tell someone exactly what trail they are going on and to expect a call in the next couple hours when
the hike is over. I also agree that Shenandoah doesn't seem like a place in which you'd get lost hiking. Everything is clearly marked. The one thing I don't understand
about this scenario, is why she wasn't reported missing until Friday? I must have missed something.

Well she and her husband were separated. And her next scheduled work shift wasn't until Friday. And work is who reported her missing (or at least noticed and called her family.) I don't talk to my parents daily. But I'm also not separated/living alone.