Anti-gay cheers at bball game

[Anonymous]

I recall two specific incidents at a Bullis Prep basketball game several years ago. One was the GP fans yelling "taco bell" when a specific brown skinned player on Bullis had the ball. He was arab by the way.
The second was that the Prep coach was berating his team at halftime in the locker room. He was overheard by the Bullis coach saying "it's one thing to be losing, but another to be losing to a bunch of jews".

What else needs to be said?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: I recall two specific incidents at a Bullis Prep basketball game several years ago. One was the GP fans yelling "taco bell" when a specific brown skinned player on Bullis had the ball. He was arab by the way.
The second was that the Prep coach was berating his team at halftime in the locker room. He was overheard by the Bullis coach saying "it's one thing to be losing, but another to be losing to a bunch of jews".

What else needs to be said?

I have no affiliation to Prep but I don't believe any coach in this area in this day and age would say this. Maybe I am naive but I find this doubtful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone just needs to post video here, and it will go viral. No doubt school administrators will then get involved.

Sounds like you are on a witch hunt here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I recall two specific incidents at a Bullis Prep basketball game several years ago. One was the GP fans yelling "taco bell" when a specific brown skinned player on Bullis had the ball. He was arab by the way.
The second was that the Prep coach was berating his team at halftime in the locker room. He was overheard by the Bullis coach saying "it's one thing to be losing, but another to be losing to a bunch of jews".

What else needs to be said?

I have no affiliation to Prep but I don't believe any coach in this area in this day and age would say this. Maybe I am naive but I find this doubtful.

I agree. Unless you are that Bullis coach, I assume you did not witness this yourself. Pretty serious allegations to make on an anonymous message board.

[Anonymous]

It happened but was about 15 yrs ago. Believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It happened but was about 15 yrs ago. Believe it or not. Makes no difference to me.

Let's focus on the present, shall we?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish that these young men could understand that when they engage in behavior like this, they are really telling an entire class of people that they hate them. And those people they hate on include some of their classmates, or some of their classmates' parents or siblings.

I have often thought that it would be beyond difficult to be gay, because no matter how much progress our society makes in the areas of acceptance and rights, most people in the wider world are still so hateful (in many areas of Africa or the Middle East it is imprisonment or death, and read the international boxer's hateful rhetoric of this week).

That is why it is especially important that educated young men here not contribute to that hate.

The fact is, there are many people in America, including here in our "enlightened" Washington area, who are uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle. This may be especially true at a school that has a more fixed religious orientation. In their view, they don't hate the sinners but they won't condone the sin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone just needs to post video here, and it will go viral. No doubt school administrators will then get involved.

Sounds like you are on a witch hunt here.

No. But you know who probably feels incredibly intimidated at these games? The gay students and families who might be present at these schools.
Seriously, this is so incredibly sad if NO ONE from either school speaks up about this. Where is the moral leadership?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish that these young men could understand that when they engage in behavior like this, they are really telling an entire class of people that they hate them. And those people they hate on include some of their classmates, or some of their classmates' parents or siblings.

I have often thought that it would be beyond difficult to be gay, because no matter how much progress our society makes in the areas of acceptance and rights, most people in the wider world are still so hateful (in many areas of Africa or the Middle East it is imprisonment or death, and read the international boxer's hateful rhetoric of this week).

That is why it is especially important that educated young men here not contribute to that hate.

The fact is, there are many people in America, including here in our "enlightened" Washington area, who are uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle. This may be especially true at a school that has a more fixed religious orientation. In their view, they don't hate the sinners but they won't condone the sin.

Are they uncomfortable with people who are gay per se, or are they uncomfortable with some stereotype they ascribe as "the gay lifestyle". Being gay is a matter of who you are attracted to physically or sexually, something that all of us, whatever our orientation or desire may be, have a certain inherent preference for -- male, female, both, or no interest.

I assume, therefore, that you must mean that people are uncomfortable with a stereotype they describe as "the gay lifestyle." This probably refers to some idea of stealth, underground, fleeting, casual, promiscuous, semi-anonymous sexual encounters. First I would argue that historically, gay men by necessity -- to avoid persecution, death, prosecution, firing, and discrimination -- were forced by society to live a public life of heterosexuality, while keeping their sexual preferences a secret. In fact, young men teasing other young men about 'being gay' from an early age, certainly continues to drive a lot of that sexual expression underground. Second, plenty of heterosexual people have and enjoy a sexual lifestyle that is hookup, casual, non-monogamous, secretive and underground (yes, I am looking at you Eliot Spitzer, Bill Clinton, Anthony Wiener, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Kardashians. et al.). And third, many gays enjoy a 'conservative' life in a monogamous relationship, with a longtime partner or spouse, children, a house, good jobs, and places of respect within their communities.

Let's teach our young men to cut it out, our gay brothers and sisters face enough discrimination and insecurity in the larger world, without us permitting that intolerance and 'hate', because it is that, to creep into our academic communities, which should be places to foster empathy, friendship, tolerance, and acceptance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone just needs to post video here, and it will go viral. No doubt school administrators will then get involved.

Sounds like you are on a witch hunt here.

No. But you know who probably feels incredibly intimidated at these games? The gay students and families who might be present at these schools.
Seriously, this is so incredibly sad if NO ONE from either school speaks up about this. Where is the moral leadership?

How do you know it hasn't already been handled at school? What makes you think you are privy to the private happenings at school?

[Anonymous]

My son is at Prep and this cheer is inappropriate and unacceptable. OP please let me know what date this occurred and was it a Varsity basketball game?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish that these young men could understand that when they engage in behavior like this, they are really telling an entire class of people that they hate them. And those people they hate on include some of their classmates, or some of their classmates' parents or siblings.

I have often thought that it would be beyond difficult to be gay, because no matter how much progress our society makes in the areas of acceptance and rights, most people in the wider world are still so hateful (in many areas of Africa or the Middle East it is imprisonment or death, and read the international boxer's hateful rhetoric of this week).

That is why it is especially important that educated young men here not contribute to that hate.

The fact is, there are many people in America, including here in our "enlightened" Washington area, who are uncomfortable with the gay lifestyle. This may be especially true at a school that has a more fixed religious orientation. In their view, they don't hate the sinners but they won't condone the sin.

Are they uncomfortable with people who are gay per se, or are they uncomfortable with some stereotype they ascribe as "the gay lifestyle". Being gay is a matter of who you are attracted to physically or sexually, something that all of us, whatever our orientation or desire may be, have a certain inherent preference for -- male, female, both, or no interest.

I assume, therefore, that you must mean that people are uncomfortable with a stereotype they describe as "the gay lifestyle." This probably refers to some idea of stealth, underground, fleeting, casual, promiscuous, semi-anonymous sexual encounters. First I would argue that historically, gay men by necessity -- to avoid persecution, death, prosecution, firing, and discrimination -- were forced by society to live a public life of heterosexuality, while keeping their sexual preferences a secret. In fact, young men teasing other young men about 'being gay' from an early age, certainly continues to drive a lot of that sexual expression underground. Second, plenty of heterosexual people have and enjoy a sexual lifestyle that is hookup, casual, non-monogamous, secretive and underground (yes, I am looking at you Eliot Spitzer, Bill Clinton, Anthony Wiener, Dominique Strauss-Kahn, Kardashians. et al.). And third, many gays enjoy a 'conservative' life in a monogamous relationship, with a longtime partner or spouse, children, a house, good jobs, and places of respect within their communities.

Let's teach our young men to cut it out, our gay brothers and sisters face enough discrimination and insecurity in the larger world, without us permitting that intolerance and 'hate', because it is that, to creep into our academic communities, which should be places to foster empathy, friendship, tolerance, and acceptance.

If I were to judge the "straight lifestyle" based on pornography, social media, violent images, newsworthy stories, and celebrity examples, I would have a very harsh assessment of it. But in fact, the only "heterosexual lifestyle" I spend any time thinking about is the one I am engaged in with my longtime partner (DH). I don't give a moment's thought to how my heterosexual friends and acquaintances might express themselves sexually, what they are doing, how often, or with whom (though DH might, , is that a male thing? ). So why would I apply that level of thought or scrutiny to the sex lives of my gay friends, and judge them for it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Someone just needs to post video here, and it will go viral. No doubt school administrators will then get involved.

Sounds like you are on a witch hunt here.

No. But you know who probably feels incredibly intimidated at these games? The gay students and families who might be present at these schools.
Seriously, this is so incredibly sad if NO ONE from either school speaks up about this. Where is the moral leadership?

How do you know it hasn't already been handled at school? What makes you think you are privy to the private happenings at school?

If this type of behavior had been addressed previously, then how it was handled obviously wasn't successful. If it has been brought up since the game in question, then good. I hope that this will bring about some positive change.

[Anonymous]

Note to self as a gay parent: Dont apply for GP

[Anonymous]

Just because a teenager chants a song at a Bball game doesn't mean he hates gays. Folks on this thread need to take a deep breath, relax, and go pursue a more important activity.