Question for EOTP Wilson feeders

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to SP because as clueless transplants, we listened to everyone that said Deal and Wilson were important and that Shepherd was a good school. (It is, but it is far from perfect.)

I think we would have been happier in Brightwood or Takoma.

SP is a wonderful neighborhood, but it is very hide bound and very, very political. It will never be out zoned for deal and Wilson because there are people with clout here who want them. It is not a subtle thing. When the cadidates knocked on our doors campaigning (and they all did--personally) --they all assured me they'd do everything to keep this community as it was. I think it's a great place--don't get me wrong--but it is how it is.

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

This. Come on over to the other side of the avenue

[Anonymous]

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

Go for it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband and I are looking for a home IB for deal/Wilson and really can only afford around 16th st and shepherds park. Knowing the history of extending the boundaries of Wilson to pick them up to integrate that system. Seeing my kids are young and the school is slated for rezoning before they make it to HS, what are the chance they move the border back to west of the park?

I only ask as with much of the city as it improves it is getting much whiter and as that area loses its blackness does it then lose the justification to keep it Wilson? That far north isn't horribly convenient to our jobs and if we pay a premium to be inbound for Wilson and then lose that, it would be troubling not to mention crushing to our resale value. Has any public official ever hinted at which way the winds are blowing?

OP, we recently bought in Shepherd Park. It was a top choice for us, and we know other neighbors for whom it was also a top choice over some WOTP neighborhoods. The folks we've met so far are friendly and civic-minded and in diverse professions (doctors, lawyers, teachers, professors, journalists, nonprofits, etc.). The setting close to Rock Creek Park is great for the outdoorsy types, and the relatively quick access to both downtown and MoCo is great. Also, as an AA family, we appreciate that a significant minority of our neighbors are also AA, highly educated families, so that our children can grow up with like peers, in addition to other kids of all backgrounds--black, white, Jewish, Christian, a few Asian and Latino, international families, two moms/dads, etc.--it's a pretty inclusive neighborhood. We felt the neighborhood school was strong enough in the early grades to give it a go, and we've been happy so far as our child starts her second year at Shepherd. For us, getting rezoned to Wilson was the icing on the cake, but it wasn't the sole reason we chose the neighborhood (and re: high school, that's about a decade away for us and we may go private anyway if we're still in the area, although we will certainly look at Wilson when the time comes).

However, from the tone of your post, it sounds like the neighborhood would not be a top choice for you and you would feel like you are "settling" for the least expensive Deal/Wilson feeder. In a way, this is one of the disadvantages of being rezoned for Wilson--that the types of people who would rather be in say, Tenleytown, etc. will begin moving here. If the unique characteristics of Shepherd Park don't appeal to you, then as other PPs said, perhaps it would be best to look in MoCo or Arlington. However, if being in a neighborhood that in some ways more closely resembles Takoma Park than AU Park appeals to you, then SP is worth a look.

I agree with this poster. We are a Latino family who live here. We love it! We used to live in AU Park and hated it. SP is a great neighborhood. While there is a vocal group of Chevy Chase parents campaigning to remove SP from Deal/Wilson, I am not worried.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MacFarland and Roosevelt has nothing to do with the Shepherd Park neighborhood.

Not sure of the points being made about it when it's not in the feeder zone/pattern for SP.

The real question is will their be a stand alone MS for the Brightwood, Riggs Park, Takoma DC and the likes in the future.

MacFarland and Roosevelt have everything to do with easing overcrowding at schools WOTP. If there's a viable standalone middle school in Ward 4, fewer parents will care about whether or not they can get into Deal.

The OP is concerned about school options and property values in 16th Street Heights and SP. Both of those concerns are alleviated by a decent MacFarland and Roosevelt.

WOTP will always have OOB slots (until there aren't any) where parents will choose a feeder elementary into Deal. Deal doesn't have OOB slots, therefore your left in the same boat with getting into the elementary schools.

MacFarland may turn into a gem, but what middle class family stays for any of its feeders besides West and maybe Powell at the moment.

Funny you ask what school besides 2? That's plenty. Powell is almost all IB in younger grades.

[Anonymous]

Have not read whole thread--- but I resent a poster suggesting 20 years before Roosevelt is desirable. Please don't attend, Roosevelt needs involved families who recognize in one or two years -- if they send their in bounds kids who come from good ES and MS, Roosevelt could be the next great HS. Anyone who says 20 is not comfortable having their child be a part of a swifter movement because they are afraid of the extreme economic and racial diversity that will exist today by jumping I now with both feet. Your children's eyes will open up that there is more than their little safe world. Your eyes will open up to how healthy it is to be part of the solution and not the problem-- waiting for yr HS to be white enough. Wilson was carried by OOB until they had a pretty building. Now the W3 folks are ready to give up their private tuition to swell the hallways there. If it weren't for the OOB and awesome families who sent their kids to a mostly black school IB it would not be the school it is today. So Roosevelt worriers-- to forth and make it great. The. The moment DCPS is investing Big Time I previously overlooked ugh schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MacFarland and Roosevelt has nothing to do with the Shepherd Park neighborhood.

Not sure of the points being made about it when it's not in the feeder zone/pattern for SP.

The real question is will their be a stand alone MS for the Brightwood, Riggs Park, Takoma DC and the likes in the future.

MacFarland and Roosevelt have everything to do with easing overcrowding at schools WOTP. If there's a viable standalone middle school in Ward 4, fewer parents will care about whether or not they can get into Deal.

The OP is concerned about school options and property values in 16th Street Heights and SP. Both of those concerns are alleviated by a decent MacFarland and Roosevelt.

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WOTP will always have OOB slots (until there aren't any) where parents will choose a feeder elementary into Deal. Deal doesn't have OOB slots, therefore your left in the same boat with getting into the elementary schools.

MacFarland may turn into a gem, but what middle class family stays for any of its feeders besides West and maybe Powell at the moment.[/quote]

At the moment, MacFarland doesn't even exist. But there are now more middle class families at the elementaries that would feed into it and the growth is not slowing down. There are a lot of strollers EOTP and it seems every third woman I see is pregnant. They can't all get into charters or Deal feeders.

Shepherd Park and West are Deal feeders. But if MacFarland becomes an acceptable alternative to Deal - which is now possible because of the demographic shift - then families in those neighborhoods may feel it makes more sense than Deal.

I have a hard time understanding why there are so many naysayers to that proposition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MacFarland and Roosevelt has nothing to do with the Shepherd Park neighborhood.

Not sure of the points being made about it when it's not in the feeder zone/pattern for SP.

The real question is will their be a stand alone MS for the Brightwood, Riggs Park, Takoma DC and the likes in the future.

MacFarland and Roosevelt have everything to do with easing overcrowding at schools WOTP. If there's a viable standalone middle school in Ward 4, fewer parents will care about whether or not they can get into Deal.

The OP is concerned about school options and property values in 16th Street Heights and SP. Both of those concerns are alleviated by a decent MacFarland and Roosevelt.

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WOTP will always have OOB slots (until there aren't any) where parents will choose a feeder elementary into Deal. Deal doesn't have OOB slots, therefore your left in the same boat with getting into the elementary schools.

MacFarland may turn into a gem, but what middle class family stays for any of its feeders besides West and maybe Powell at the moment.[/quote]

At the moment, MacFarland doesn't even exist. But there are now more middle class families at the elementaries that would feed into it and the growth is not slowing down. There are a lot of strollers EOTP and it seems every third woman I see is pregnant. They can't all get into charters or Deal feeders.

Shepherd Park and West are Deal feeders. But if MacFarland becomes an acceptable alternative to Deal - which is now possible because of the demographic shift - then families in those neighborhoods may feel it makes more sense than Deal.

I have a hard time understanding why there are so many naysayers to that proposition.

First learn how to use the quote option. Second I'm not a naysayer just voicing my opinion. If families keep fleeing my 1st grade, these schools will never see a shift for the better. But as you mentioned, not everyone can get into a Charter or WOTP school. Some may stick it out or some may move.

[Anonymous]

Actually West is NOT a Deal feeder. SOME of the people zoned for West have grandfather rights to Deal for next 10 years. But I agree with your other comments. There were many WOTPers that weren't even sending their kids to Deal 20 years ago and certainly not to Wilson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

Go for it.

Definitely. You could make $100-$200k profit and afford private for middle and high depending on how many kids you have.

[Anonymous]

Guess the quote feature isn't working for me either . And I don't think West is a Deal Feeder. West is a PK-8 campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

Go for it.

Definitely. You could make $100-$200k profit and afford private for middle and high depending on how many kids you have.

This and there are several people looking to buy in that neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

Go for it.

Definitely. You could make $100-$200k profit and afford private for middle and high depending on how many kids you have.

This and there are several people looking to buy in that neighborhood.

Definitely. There have even been folks prowling the listserv recently asking if anyone wants to sell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Why don't you sell and but in Takoma or Brightwood? You could make a decent profit.

It's tempting.

Go for it.

Definitely. You could make $100-$200k profit and afford private for middle and high depending on how many kids you have.

This and there are several people looking to buy in that neighborhood.

Definitely. There have even been folks prowling the listserv recently asking if anyone wants to sell.

I can't believe anyone would sell in Shepherd Park and move to Brightwood. Takoma, maybe but not Brightwood. And if you have elementary kids why would you give up Deal/Wilson?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guess the quote feature isn't working for me either . And I don't think West is a Deal Feeder. West is a PK-8 campus.

West will feed MacFarland in a few years and become a PK3-5th school.