Does ISIS have a right to be pissed off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people do not have a clue.

They think it will bring them ISIS pals - 'hey dude, I'm on your side'

No. The OP didn't say Isis has the right to terrorize and kill.

The fact is that we need to learn the lesson that our mistake in Iraq provided the opportunity and the reason for a group like ISIS. Radical nut jobs do not build a movement and an army out of nowhere. Desperation is a fertile soil for extremism, and in the case of ISIS we created that desperation.

So they are wrong and they are evil. But we are still culpable.

So, do you believe we just let them continue their killing and destruction? Do you think we should just sit and watch - and wait - until they hit our homeland? Should we just allow these madmen to have their way - killing any and all who do not accept their extremist views?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people do not have a clue.

They think it will bring them ISIS pals - 'hey dude, I'm on your side'

No. The OP didn't say Isis has the right to terrorize and kill.

The fact is that we need to learn the lesson that our mistake in Iraq provided the opportunity and the reason for a group like ISIS. Radical nut jobs do not build a movement and an army out of nowhere. Desperation is a fertile soil for extremism, and in the case of ISIS we created that desperation.

So they are wrong and they are evil. But we are still culpable.

Half the people in ISIS seem to be middle class kids from England and Australia, raised on rap music. Should we blame rap music?

[Anonymous]

Half the people in ISIS seem to be middle class kids from England and Australia, raised on rap music. Should we blame rap music?

I'd love to see your source on that.

[Anonymous]

Really? Here you go

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/562784/20140815/isis-british-rapper-syria-severed-head.htm

[Anonymous]

"Chillin' with my homie, or what's left of him"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2723659/ISIS-militants-seize-key-towns-villages-close-Syrian-border-Turkey.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You people do not have a clue.

They think it will bring them ISIS pals - 'hey dude, I'm on your side'

No. The OP didn't say Isis has the right to terrorize and kill.

The fact is that we need to learn the lesson that our mistake in Iraq provided the opportunity and the reason for a group like ISIS. Radical nut jobs do not build a movement and an army out of nowhere. Desperation is a fertile soil for extremism, and in the case of ISIS we created that desperation.

So they are wrong and they are evil. But we are still culpable.

Half the people in ISIS seem to be middle class kids from England and Australia, raised on rap music. Should we blame rap music?

To a conservative, an anecdote is worth a thousand facts.

[Anonymous]

You asked for sources...

These kids are looking for identity and purpose. Once they don't find it in volunteering, reading, hiking or sports - they head to the nearest radical imam and sign up. Then they find fulfillment in killing and dismemberment:


http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/562880/20140815/australian-isis-jihadist-elomar-sharrouf.htm#.U_S04c90wiQ


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2721230/Thats-boy-Australian-jihadists-seven-year-old-son-poses-decapitated-head-Syrian-solider.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

The fact is that we need to learn the lesson that our mistake in Iraq provided the opportunity and the reason for a group like ISIS. Radical nut jobs do not build a movement and an army out of nowhere. Desperation is a fertile soil for extremism, and in the case of ISIS we created that desperation.

If only the US hadn't intervened and removed the dictator Saddam Hussein, then Iraq would be a peaceful, stable state like Syria.

[Anonymous]

Many of the leaders of Isis are also north African - Libya, morroco, Tunisia. These countries are highly westernized and pretty darned cosmopolitan - which is the part a lot of these leaders, many western educated, are from. They never suffered anything "at our hands". I'm sure some of Isis is homegrown but many are disaffected westerners who not only are bullying and terrorizing us, they are bullying and terrorizing a huge populace in Syria and Iraq. Why? Because it gives them power to do so, which feels good. The ordinary people you are worried about being 'mad at us' for policies past or present are the ones literally dying for us to come and help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Throughout the Iraq war:



And this is US casualties in that same war:



One is in scale of thousands and the other is in a scale of dozens. Even though every life is precious, the numbers are staggeringly lopsided.

Also note the figures during the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld administration compared to the numbers during the Obama administration.

And the Obama administration got as the hell out of there.

Now, some have argued that leaving Iraq causes the ISIS situation. I would propose that being in there and killing hundreds of thousands of civilians under bullshit WMD and terrorism pretexts is why we are in the current situation.

In three pages, the killing that ISIS does is deplorable. The much greater killing the US does is perfectly ok.

You are truly the meeting of the dumbasses.

[Anonymous]

. Please listen - you are loved and you matter. There is a better way than embracing ISIS depravity . Being an ISIS apologist is not a fruitful path that will bring you or anyone else peace , joy or justice in this life and on this planet. Please turn towards what is light and good. Listen to beautiful music. Go smell a.flower. Embrace love.

[Anonymous]

They have declared war on us since 1979. Liberals are too afraid to accept the situation . It won't go away. Thus is a clash of civilizations and western liberals are the first to be beheaded or enslaved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They have declared war on us since 1979. Liberals are too afraid to accept the situation . It won't go away. Thus is a clash of civilizations and western liberals are the first to be beheaded or enslaved.

isis is Sunni. Iran is the enemy of Sunnis. You don't know your politics for shit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The fact is that we need to learn the lesson that our mistake in Iraq provided the opportunity and the reason for a group like ISIS. Radical nut jobs do not build a movement and an army out of nowhere. Desperation is a fertile soil for extremism, and in the case of ISIS we created that desperation.

If only the US hadn't intervened and removed the dictator Saddam Hussein, then Iraq would be a peaceful, stable state like Syria.

yall were rooting for the Egyptian military coup a few months ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have declared war on us since 1979. Liberals are too afraid to accept the situation . It won't go away. Thus is a clash of civilizations and western liberals are the first to be beheaded or enslaved.

isis is Sunni. Iran is the enemy of Sunnis. You don't know your politics for shit.

? Different factions have been gunning for us for forever. That was just one the more striking examples pp gave.