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This is from National Center for Education Science: https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=28
It is not a perfect comparison but it gives some benchmarks so we are not guessing about turnover. "Of the 3,380,300 full-time and part-time public school teachers who were teaching during the 2007–08 school year, 84.5 percent remained at the same school (“stayers”), 7.6 percent moved to a different school (“movers”), and 8.0 percent left the profession (“leavers”) during the following year. Among the 487,300 private school teachers who were teaching during the 2007–08 school year, [b]79.2 percent were stayers, 4.9 percent were movers, and 15.9 percent were leavers. [/b] About 26.2 percent of public school teacher movers changed schools in 2008–09 because of personal life factors, compared to 16.0 percent of private school teacher movers. About 5.3 percent of public school teacher leavers left teaching in 2008–09 because their contract was not renewed, compared to 13.0 percent of private school teacher leavers. Among teachers who left teaching in 2008–09, about 8.9 percent of public school teachers, compared to 17.4 percent of private school teachers, were working in an occupation outside the field of education, including military service." WES is below the norm in transition of staff leaving, with 10 percent (not the total of 20+ percent that 'moved/left' school). |
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We have been at WES for two years and have not met a "bad one" yet. Many of classmates have one or two siblings in the ES and MS and no complaints from them either.
It seems those that left skid-marks near the front doors (never a good idea to speed on school grounds) seem to be posting in WES threads a lot. Are they not happy at their new school? Why are they unable to move on? |
| Finally, some actual data to back up an opinion on this site. Happy to hear that WES is actually BELOW the norm in teacher turnover! Now, let's figure out why we can't keep a chaplain in the school, especially a really good one! |
| If the school isn't having trouble, why are they having another open house in May for the 2014/2015 school year? |
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Maybe for the same reason that St. Andrew's Episcopal School in Potomac had open houses as recent as April 14th and the 24th, and maybe for the same reason that St. Patrick's Episcopal School in DC is still advertising openings in K, 1, & 2. Since the financial meltdown, private schools across the nation have seen a decrease in enrollment, especially at the primary level. |
| If there are open spots, they should fill them. In addition, there are probably three preschools in the entire area that don't have openings. If you do a search on GreatSchools.org and enter preschools & Bethesda MD there are 64 schools that come up and this does not include the area daycare centers. The school is fine. It is actually good to see them getting out there and making sure that they are letting people know of the great offerings for 3-5 year olds. |
| I'm not connected to WES at all (kids attend another private), but these numbers for turnover do not seem particularly starling for a school that goes through 8th grade. As someone pointed out Washington DC is a very expensive place to live and, often times, teachers simply find it difficult to make ends meet and need to move to another location that offers a better cost of living. |
| Am I missing something in all this talk about chaplain turnover? Father Kim was there from my child's transition year through 3rd grade. I don't know when she first arrived, but she was there at least 5 years. She left to take a pretty high-profile job. Where's the problem? |
| "Father" Kim for a woman? I'm high episcopalian and we don't even go that far? |
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You are right, PP 06, there are no problems at WES.
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| Father Kim was at WES from 08 to 13. Our family started in 01 and e have seen 7 chaplains there since then. I feel that is high turnover. I am not familiar enough with typical teacher turnover to know what is usual and what is not. For our kids sake it would have been nice to see more consistency with the chaplain and not so frequent turnover. |
| We saw three clergy turnover during our stay (much earlier than 7:58) but they didn't play much of a role except to come in and plan and direct weekly chapel (very ecumenical). But, seriously, does she call herself "Father" Kim? That's not correct. It's The Very Reverend; Reverend; Dr.; Pastor; Priest (if ordained; one of the WES one had not been ordained) or "Cathy". There is no such thing as "Father ___" (insert woman's last name - not even in the Episcopal Church). |
| A woman can take the title of Mother or Father. Many women chose Father (it is not uncommon). Here is the outline of the titles as per Episcopal Diocese of New York http://www.dioceseny.org/pages/276-forms-of-clerical-address. |
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That's the Episcopal Diocese of NY and the link doesn't work. I've never heard of this and I'm an Episcopalian.
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