Dark Chain of Events to Your Kid's Ivy League Rejection

[Anonymous]

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It is the general attitude of the student body. I guess you took exception to the statement since you went there and now your DC is. I am sure I would be offended, too. You are probably likable to each other. If you are one of the few who don't have this superiority complex, then great. I actually know someone who went to Harvard for undergrad. He is great person. But he also complained people there were snobs, and he hated every minute of his experience there. He went onto a different grad school for his Law degree, not Ivy. He's much happier.

If most of your friends are also Ivy grads, then you probably can't tell whether you are all likable or not to the general public, and actually, you probably don't care. But as I said, if you are one of the few that is likable, then that's great.

As I said, everything we say is a generalization since no one has absolute knowledge or authority over any subject matter. But my general opinion of Ivy grads is that they are snobby, hence not likable IMO.

You should be embarrassed by this. Seriously, none of this makes sense. You can't proclaim on Ivy student body traits if you never attended an Ivy. Then, you combine your acquaintance with maybe 5-10 Ivy grads with your overweaning confidence that this limited familiarity entitles you to made broad over-generalizations, and so you go ahead and assume that I, my DC and my friends are all unlikable. Really? Guess what, your post with these silly over-generalizations make you seem extremely silly, and unlikable.

That poster sounds so simpleminded it would be funny if she wasn't an adult.

Her posts ooze with envy and insecurity. She has to make ivy leaguers unlikable in her mind in order to feel better about the fact she will never be one.

And with her flawed logic and inability to reason, one can easily see why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People from ivy leagues are not like able?

And you fear that ivies will make your kids unlike able? An ivy would undo all the years of training and work your family did?

You sound foolish.

You really think a school makes people unlike able?

Perhaps you should check your insecurities and small minded generalizations.

When a school tells you time and time again that you are the best of the best, that you are cream of the crop, you start to get a big head. Just like when a parent tells their kid the same thing, the kid gets a big head and is not likable. I have seen that, yes.

What insecurities are you referring to?

Everything we say here is a generalization. People make generalizations all the time. It's how we have a frame of reference and make judgement calls. I'm sure you've done it once or twice in your life.

It is true that I/my classes were repeatedly told that we are the cream of the crop. But ITS TRU

It's TRUE! We ARE part of an elite group that not everyone can get into.

Which insecurities? The one that says you must negatively stereotype those in the Ivy League to make yourself feel better about not being apart of it.

Do Ivy grads not negatively stereotype poor, uneducated, black/hispanic or even smart Asians? We all stereotype. It comes from some experience, not just out of thin air. I'm sure there are some Ivy grads that are great people. It just seems the majority are a-holes. Hence, people's generalization.

I'm not insecure. I'm quite proud of the fact that I graduated from a no-name uni with little help and 0 debt and was able to make six figures in a few years.

[Anonymous]

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It is the general attitude of the student body. I guess you took exception to the statement since you went there and now your DC is. I am sure I would be offended, too. You are probably likable to each other. If you are one of the few who don't have this superiority complex, then great. I actually know someone who went to Harvard for undergrad. He is great person. But he also complained people there were snobs, and he hated every minute of his experience there. He went onto a different grad school for his Law degree, not Ivy. He's much happier.

If most of your friends are also Ivy grads, then you probably can't tell whether you are all likable or not to the general public, and actually, you probably don't care. But as I said, if you are one of the few that is likable, then that's great.

As I said, everything we say is a generalization since no one has absolute knowledge or authority over any subject matter. But my general opinion of Ivy grads is that they are snobby, hence not likable IMO.

I'm sure you could sound sillier here, but I'm not quite sure how.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. People that graduate from an ivy are not likable. Hopefully it will change in the future but currently the graduates have a very low EQ. I do think they are trying to change this, but 30+year olds.. Not likable.

I have multiple friends/family who graduated a ivy. Thank god for their spouses ... I am not sure anybody would tolerate them alone.

It wasn't until this site that I realized how prevalent ivy envy is in this area.

A school makes you unlike able? Yet those people were able to find spouses who find them to be true keepers.

Simply accept that you didn't have what it takes to make it in the big leagues instead of disparaging those who did.

The jealousy and insecurity are obvious.

Oh dear. It's becomeIvy vs. non-Ivy like SAHM vs WOHM.

I'm pretty sure the divorce rate amongst ivy leaguers is pretty much the same as the general public. I don't think they have "true keepers" anymore than non-ivy leaguers do.

Do you REALLY think that everyone is jealous of those that went to Ivies? Um..no. You made a generalization, just like the rest of us did. It's not the school itself that makes the person unlikable, it's the general attitude that if you were educated anywhere else than an Ivy, your education was sub-par, or the attitude of "I'm superior to you". That makes you snobby. Honestly, that is the way most Ivy grads think, even if it is subconsciously.

ABSOLUTELY! You see it all over this board and in this thread.

Having disdain or dislike for an entire group of people--who, by the way, happen to be part of an elite group--is envy.

And PROJECTING your insecurities onto a group is a way to deal with it.

And what do divorce rates have to do with anything? You sound so stupid I simply cannot respond to you anymore.

You should be ashamed.

Please get some help for that insecurity you have. YES, thinking others feel superior to you is an indication of your own insecurity. There's absolutely no way you can know what another person (much less an entire group) is thinking. However, you CAN deal with how you feel around that person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It is the general attitude of the student body. I guess you took exception to the statement since you went there and now your DC is. I am sure I would be offended, too. You are probably likable to each other. If you are one of the few who don't have this superiority complex, then great. I actually know someone who went to Harvard for undergrad. He is great person. But he also complained people there were snobs, and he hated every minute of his experience there. He went onto a different grad school for his Law degree, not Ivy. He's much happier.

If most of your friends are also Ivy grads, then you probably can't tell whether you are all likable or not to the general public, and actually, you probably don't care. But as I said, if you are one of the few that is likable, then that's great.

As I said, everything we say is a generalization since no one has absolute knowledge or authority over any subject matter. But my general opinion of Ivy grads is that they are snobby, hence not likable IMO.

You should be embarrassed by this. Seriously, none of this makes sense. You can't proclaim on Ivy student body traits if you never attended an Ivy. Then, you combine your acquaintance with maybe 5-10 Ivy grads with your overweaning confidence that this limited familiarity entitles you to made broad over-generalizations, and so you go ahead and assume that I, my DC and my friends are all unlikable. Really? Guess what, your post with these silly over-generalizations make you seem extremely silly, and unlikable.

That poster sounds so simpleminded it would be funny if she wasn't an adult.

Her posts ooze with envy and insecurity. She has to make ivy leaguers unlikable in her mind in order to feel better about the fact she will never be one.

And with her flawed logic and inability to reason, one can easily see why.

This oozes snoby to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes. People that graduate from an ivy are not likable. Hopefully it will change in the future but currently the graduates have a very low EQ. I do think they are trying to change this, but 30+year olds.. Not likable.

I have multiple friends/family who graduated a ivy. Thank god for their spouses ... I am not sure anybody would tolerate them alone.

It wasn't until this site that I realized how prevalent ivy envy is in this area.

A school makes you unlike able? Yet those people were able to find spouses who find them to be true keepers.

Simply accept that you didn't have what it takes to make it in the big leagues instead of disparaging those who did.

The jealousy and insecurity are obvious.

Oh dear. It's becomeIvy vs. non-Ivy like SAHM vs WOHM.

I'm pretty sure the divorce rate amongst ivy leaguers is pretty much the same as the general public. I don't think they have "true keepers" anymore than non-ivy leaguers do.

Do you REALLY think that everyone is jealous of those that went to Ivies? Um..no. You made a generalization, just like the rest of us did. It's not the school itself that makes the person unlikable, it's the general attitude that if you were educated anywhere else than an Ivy, your education was sub-par, or the attitude of "I'm superior to you". That makes you snobby. Honestly, that is the way most Ivy grads think, even if it is subconsciously.

ABSOLUTELY! You see it all over this board and in this thread.

Having disdain or dislike for an entire group of people--who, by the way, happen to be part of an elite group--is envy.

And PROJECTING your insecurities onto a group is a way to deal with it.

And what do divorce rates have to do with anything? You sound so stupid I simply cannot respond to you anymore.

You should be ashamed.

Please get some help for that insecurity you have. YES, thinking others feel superior to you is an indication of your own insecurity. There's absolutely no way you can know what another person (much less an entire group) is thinking. However, you CAN deal with how you feel around that person.

It's the response to another PP who stated "Yet those people were able to find spouses who find them to be true keepers" - I guess that means they haven't split up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from ivy leagues are not like able?

And you fear that ivies will make your kids unlike able? An ivy would undo all the years of training and work your family did?

You sound foolish.

You really think a school makes people unlike able?

Perhaps you should check your insecurities and small minded generalizations.

When a school tells you time and time again that you are the best of the best, that you are cream of the crop, you start to get a big head. Just like when a parent tells their kid the same thing, the kid gets a big head and is not likable. I have seen that, yes.

What insecurities are you referring to?

Everything we say here is a generalization. People make generalizations all the time. It's how we have a frame of reference and make judgement calls. I'm sure you've done it once or twice in your life.

It is true that I/my classes were repeatedly told that we are the cream of the crop. But ITS TRU

It's TRUE! We ARE part of an elite group that not everyone can get into.

Which insecurities? The one that says you must negatively stereotype those in the Ivy League to make yourself feel better about not being apart of it.

Do Ivy grads not negatively stereotype poor, uneducated, black/hispanic or even smart Asians? We all stereotype. It comes from some experience, not just out of thin air. I'm sure there are some Ivy grads that are great people. It just seems the majority are a-holes. Hence, people's generalization.

I'm not insecure. I'm quite proud of the fact that I graduated from a no-name uni with little help and 0 debt and was able to make six figures in a few years.

No one who's proud of themselves projects feelings of superiority on another group.

No one who's proud of themselves has to put down a group of people--who, by the way, are advantaged over them in some way--in order to feel better about their no name uni.

Do ivy grads negatively stereotype the poor, uneducated, etc? You're truly showing how OUT OF TOUCH you are with the ivy experience with that one. That's so laughable I won't even touch it. Maybe someone else will come in and do me the favor.

One thing I CAN tell you about ivy leaguers is that our minds are trained to think critically, deeply and analytically. I cannot imagine one ivy league grad lumping and stereotyping an entire group for any reason. Even if they walked through the ivy gates with a limited worldview and prejudices, they would've been gone by the time they left. Such is the benefit of an ivy education.

It is VERY obvious from your posts that you graduated from a no name, subpar school. I've never seen such stupidity in my life.

And just stop it: We all know there are more ivy grads leaving school debt free and blazing trails throughout the world making much more money than those from 'no name unis'.

I really feel sorry for you.

Seriously.

You seem like a very sad, unhappy, insecure person.

And jealousy has to be debilitating and painful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It is the general attitude of the student body. I guess you took exception to the statement since you went there and now your DC is. I am sure I would be offended, too. You are probably likable to each other. If you are one of the few who don't have this superiority complex, then great. I actually know someone who went to Harvard for undergrad. He is great person. But he also complained people there were snobs, and he hated every minute of his experience there. He went onto a different grad school for his Law degree, not Ivy. He's much happier.

If most of your friends are also Ivy grads, then you probably can't tell whether you are all likable or not to the general public, and actually, you probably don't care. But as I said, if you are one of the few that is likable, then that's great.

As I said, everything we say is a generalization since no one has absolute knowledge or authority over any subject matter. But my general opinion of Ivy grads is that they are snobby, hence not likable IMO.

You should be embarrassed by this. Seriously, none of this makes sense. You can't proclaim on Ivy student body traits if you never attended an Ivy. Then, you combine your acquaintance with maybe 5-10 Ivy grads with your overweaning confidence that this limited familiarity entitles you to made broad over-generalizations, and so you go ahead and assume that I, my DC and my friends are all unlikable. Really? Guess what, your post with these silly over-generalizations make you seem extremely silly, and unlikable.

That poster sounds so simpleminded it would be funny if she wasn't an adult.

Her posts ooze with envy and insecurity. She has to make ivy leaguers unlikable in her mind in order to feel better about the fact she will never be one.

And with her flawed logic and inability to reason, one can easily see why.

This oozes snoby to me.

I'd rather be snobby, confident, arrogant, whatever...

Than insecure and envious of those who are able to attain that which I am not.

I'd rather ooze snobbiness than insecurity and jealousy. And please never let me be STUPID!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from ivy leagues are not like able?

And you fear that ivies will make your kids unlike able? An ivy would undo all the years of training and work your family did?

You sound foolish.

You really think a school makes people unlike able?

Perhaps you should check your insecurities and small minded generalizations.

When a school tells you time and time again that you are the best of the best, that you are cream of the crop, you start to get a big head. Just like when a parent tells their kid the same thing, the kid gets a big head and is not likable. I have seen that, yes.

What insecurities are you referring to?

Everything we say here is a generalization. People make generalizations all the time. It's how we have a frame of reference and make judgement calls. I'm sure you've done it once or twice in your life.

+100
Check out the Ivy asshole on the GMU thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People from ivy leagues are not like able?

And you fear that ivies will make your kids unlike able? An ivy would undo all the years of training and work your family did?

You sound foolish.

You really think a school makes people unlike able?

Perhaps you should check your insecurities and small minded generalizations.

When a school tells you time and time again that you are the best of the best, that you are cream of the crop, you start to get a big head. Just like when a parent tells their kid the same thing, the kid gets a big head and is not likable. I have seen that, yes.

What insecurities are you referring to?

Everything we say here is a generalization. People make generalizations all the time. It's how we have a frame of reference and make judgement calls. I'm sure you've done it once or twice in your life.

It is true that I/my classes were repeatedly told that we are the cream of the crop. But ITS TRU

It's TRUE! We ARE part of an elite group that not everyone can get into.

Which insecurities? The one that says you must negatively stereotype those in the Ivy League to make yourself feel better about not being apart of it.

Do Ivy grads not negatively stereotype poor, uneducated, black/hispanic or even smart Asians? We all stereotype. It comes from some experience, not just out of thin air. I'm sure there are some Ivy grads that are great people. It just seems the majority are a-holes. Hence, people's generalization.

I'm not insecure. I'm quite proud of the fact that I graduated from a no-name uni with little help and 0 debt and was able to make six figures in a few years.

No one who's proud of themselves projects feelings of superiority on another group.

No one who's proud of themselves has to put down a group of people--who, by the way, are advantaged over them in some way--in order to feel better about their no name uni.

Do ivy grads negatively stereotype the poor, uneducated, etc? You're truly showing how OUT OF TOUCH you are with the ivy experience with that one. That's so laughable I won't even touch it. Maybe someone else will come in and do me the favor.

One thing I CAN tell you about ivy leaguers is that our minds are trained to think critically, deeply and analytically. I cannot imagine one ivy league grad lumping and stereotyping an entire group for any reason. Even if they walked through the ivy gates with a limited worldview and prejudices, they would've been gone by the time they left. Such is the benefit of an ivy education.

It is VERY obvious from your posts that you graduated from a no name, subpar school. I've never seen such stupidity in my life.

And just stop it: We all know there are more ivy grads leaving school debt free and blazing trails throughout the world making much more money than those from 'no name unis'.

I really feel sorry for you.

Seriously.

You seem like a very sad, unhappy, insecure person.

And jealousy has to be debilitating and painful.

Didn't good ol' GWBush go to an Ivy? I wouldn't call him a deep critical thinker, or analytical either. You're right. We shouldn't lump people together. GWB can't be lumped into a group of intellectuals.

[Anonymous]

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Do Ivy grads not negatively stereotype poor, uneducated, black/hispanic or even smart Asians? We all stereotype. It comes from some experience, not just out of thin air. I'm sure there are some Ivy grads that are great people. It just seems the majority are a-holes. Hence, people's generalization.

I'm not insecure. I'm quite proud of the fact that I graduated from a no-name uni with little help and 0 debt and was able to make six figures in a few years.

So which is it?
(1) Ivy grads negatively stereotype "poor, uneducated black/hispanic or even smart Asians" (awesome how you stereotype these groups yourself here!)
(2) Ivy colleges are liberal, socialism-preaching ivory towers

You make no sense. And, since you clearly know nothing about Ivy grads, I'll help you by answering that (2) is much closer to the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Didn't good ol' GWBush go to an Ivy? I wouldn't call him a deep critical thinker, or analytical either. You're right. We shouldn't lump people together. GWB can't be lumped into a group of intellectuals.

Stop it now, for your own sake. Find something else to do before we all form an even worse opinion of the sad institution (if any) that educated you. I'm not a fan of GWB, but if you have any sort of education at all, you know that one person doesn't represent an entire institution.

[Anonymous]

We need some kind of Ivy League debate quarantine thread. Or is this it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Do Ivy grads not negatively stereotype poor, uneducated, black/hispanic or even smart Asians? We all stereotype. It comes from some experience, not just out of thin air. I'm sure there are some Ivy grads that are great people. It just seems the majority are a-holes. Hence, people's generalization.

I'm not insecure. I'm quite proud of the fact that I graduated from a no-name uni with little help and 0 debt and was able to make six figures in a few years.

So which is it?
(1) Ivy grads negatively stereotype "poor, uneducated black/hispanic or even smart Asians" (awesome how you stereotype these groups yourself here!)
(2) Ivy colleges are liberal, socialism-preaching ivory towers

You make no sense. And, since you clearly know nothing about Ivy grads, I'll help you by answering that (2) is much closer to the truth.

Really, then why are so many in Investment Banking and not in social work? Why don't they take their Ivy league smarts and make this country better instead of it being run into the ground? Aren't a lot of our Congressmen and even Presidents Ivy grads? What the heck happened to this country then?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It is the general attitude of the student body. I guess you took exception to the statement since you went there and now your DC is. I am sure I would be offended, too. You are probably likable to each other. If you are one of the few who don't have this superiority complex, then great. I actually know someone who went to Harvard for undergrad. He is great person. But he also complained people there were snobs, and he hated every minute of his experience there. He went onto a different grad school for his Law degree, not Ivy. He's much happier.

If most of your friends are also Ivy grads, then you probably can't tell whether you are all likable or not to the general public, and actually, you probably don't care. But as I said, if you are one of the few that is likable, then that's great.

As I said, everything we say is a generalization since no one has absolute knowledge or authority over any subject matter. But my general opinion of Ivy grads is that they are snobby, hence not likable IMO.

I'm sure you could sound sillier here, but I'm not quite sure how.

No. I think the first PP went all-out for silly, and nailed it.