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08/30/2012 10:34

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?

Voting is a right protected by the constitution. Buying shorts is not a protected right. The bar necessary to do one should not be the same in both cases. Moreover, you could have chosen to pay cash and would not have needed an identification card.

The issue is not simply the requirement for an ID card, but the type of IDs allowed. In many cases, photo IDs that individuals have are not allowed. One example in some cases is a student ID from a university. Most of us have driver's licenses. But, elderly folks who don't drive have probably let theirs expire. It is very clear that these laws will prevent legitimate voters from voting. It is not clear that they will prohibit illegitimate voters from voting since that is not a demonstrated problem. How many people are you willing to deprive of their constitutional rights in order to combat a non-existant problem simply because you recently purchased shorts?

everyone can get a passport at the post office

If tomorrow Obama free money to all that get a passport or voter id card, everyone would get one. Those people that can't take the time to get proper ID don't' value their right to vote.

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08/30/2012 10:39

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

and further more voter fraud or rather people coming in to vote as another person is rare and is not the major voting issue of the day.

when the topic of addressing other voting problems come up, some get all upset and throw fits, especially where there is clear evidence showing the problem. when it comes to voter fraud which has a lot prosecution rate compared to other voting illegalities, this has to be #1 issue solved at this very moment or out country is going to hell.

we are probably creating a bigger problem with voter ID laws more than anything. what sort of ID is "acceptable"? will a passport count? college ID? social security card? what if my license is expired as jsteele mentioned?

ill even use me for an example. ive been at my current home for 4-5 years yet my drivers license has my old address. in a temporary lapse of silliness, i think im good to go to vote since i have a drivers license but when i show up my addresses dont match. now what?

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08/30/2012 10:59

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

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Anonymous wrote:Big liberal dem here. Don't condemn an entire party because of one or two asses. (Remember Hilary Rosen and "she never worked a day in her life"?) It's not fair to paint an entire party because one or two people make stupid comments.

Now I'm the first to condemn the Repubs for all the anti-reproductive freedom stuff, but that's a clear pattern of legislative behavior. While I don't see the Repubs as being welcoming to minorities, I don't think that peanut throwing is typical Repub behavior, either.

Be careful about condeming because god only knows what asinine move someone might make at OUR convention next week. Heck if the Repus were smart they'd send a couple of moles and do something to make us look awful. Burn a bible on to convention floor or something.

For some reason, I don't believe you are a big liberal dem.

I do. That was well-said, first pp. (From a another left-liberal)

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08/30/2012 11:50

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?

Voting is a right protected by the constitution. Buying shorts is not a protected right. The bar necessary to do one should not be the same in both cases. Moreover, you could have chosen to pay cash and would not have needed an identification card.

The issue is not simply the requirement for an ID card, but the type of IDs allowed. In many cases, photo IDs that individuals have are not allowed. One example in some cases is a student ID from a university. Most of us have driver's licenses. But, elderly folks who don't drive have probably let theirs expire. It is very clear that these laws will prevent legitimate voters from voting. It is not clear that they will prohibit illegitimate voters from voting since that is not a demonstrated problem. How many people are you willing to deprive of their constitutional rights in order to combat a non-existant problem simply because you recently purchased shorts?

everyone can get a passport at the post office

If tomorrow Obama free money to all that get a passport or voter id card, everyone would get one. Those people that can't take the time to get proper ID don't' value their right to vote.

Bullshit!! I am so offended by this line of reasoning. This is where a complete lack of understanding is apparent. My dad is 92 years old with a 6th grade education. He is black and was born in his house in rural Virginia. There was no hospital for black people. The only record of his birth was in a bible that was housed in a church that has long been burned down.

When my dad applied for social security, it was VERY difficult. Luckily, I am a lawyer and we were able to do it. My dad does not have a passport. He was not going to you know - travel in his retirement! He is typical of many many older people from rural areas.

My dad has NEVER missed an opportunity to vote. He lived through Jim Crow. It is incredibly important to him. Is he less American? Is it his fault that he was born in his house and he would not be able to get documentation? Does he now not deserve to vote?
I hate that they keep saying that you need a picture ID to get onto a plane. No, you don't. It is more difficult and takes more time, but you don't need one. A passport? Really??

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08/30/2012 12:00

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

What a surprise- recent poll shows AA support of Romney at ZERO. CaIne, Condi Rice and Love cover the margin of error

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08/30/2012 12:04

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?

Voting is a right protected by the constitution. Buying shorts is not a protected right. The bar necessary to do one should not be the same in both cases. Moreover, you could have chosen to pay cash and would not have needed an identification card.

The issue is not simply the requirement for an ID card, but the type of IDs allowed. In many cases, photo IDs that individuals have are not allowed. One example in some cases is a student ID from a university. Most of us have driver's licenses. But, elderly folks who don't drive have probably let theirs expire. It is very clear that these laws will prevent legitimate voters from voting. It is not clear that they will prohibit illegitimate voters from voting since that is not a demonstrated problem. How many people are you willing to deprive of their constitutional rights in order to combat a non-existant problem simply because you recently purchased shorts?

everyone can get a passport at the post office

You did not have to produce ID to buy shorts. You had to produce ID to use a credit card. Having a credit card is a privilege, not a right, and the vendor/ card-issuer/ card-user contract is something you willingly became a part of. Man, you're stupid.

And, passports cost a minimum of $120. Is that what it costs to vote? Why not just re-instate the poll tax?

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08/30/2012 12:28

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?

Voting is a right protected by the constitution. Buying shorts is not a protected right. The bar necessary to do one should not be the same in both cases. Moreover, you could have chosen to pay cash and would not have needed an identification card.

The issue is not simply the requirement for an ID card, but the type of IDs allowed. In many cases, photo IDs that individuals have are not allowed. One example in some cases is a student ID from a university. Most of us have driver's licenses. But, elderly folks who don't drive have probably let theirs expire. It is very clear that these laws will prevent legitimate voters from voting. It is not clear that they will prohibit illegitimate voters from voting since that is not a demonstrated problem. How many people are you willing to deprive of their constitutional rights in order to combat a non-existant problem simply because you recently purchased shorts?

everyone can get a passport at the post office

Yeah, with a birth certificate. What if you don't have one???

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08/30/2012 12:51

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?

You could have paid in cash.

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08/30/2012 12:58

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Back to the original topic, here is an interview with the photographer. It's pretty interesting:

http://mije.org/richardprince/cnn-camerawoman-not-surprised-peanut-throwing

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08/30/2012 14:09

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

I didn't want this thread to turn into a political discussion and get moved to the Politics forum. I guess it's inevitable because of where the incident happpened. But as the camerawoman said in the above-posted interview, it could have happened anywhere.

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08/30/2012 15:10

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

http://wonkette.com/482693/nice-old-woman-at-romney-event-wants-a-first-lady-who-looks-like-a-first-lady

Gosh I wonder what the woman being quoted could possibly mean about Michelle Obama?

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08/30/2012 22:25

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I just can't believe that there are actually people like this in 2012.

Ever think that maybe they were plants? Just saying, it's right up SEIU's alley.

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08/30/2012 22:34

Subject: men throw peanuts at CNN black camerawoman and say, "this is how we feed the animals!"

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Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I just can't believe that there are actually people like this in 2012.

Ever think that maybe they were plants? Just saying, it's right up SEIU's alley.

Thats been the excuse for every tea party incident of the last four years. They were plants!