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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]BLD, I have to produce an identification card to purchase a pair of jean shorts for my DC recently. Is this consumer suppression?[/quote]

Voting is a right protected by the constitution. Buying shorts is not a protected right. The bar necessary to do one should not be the same in both cases. Moreover, you could have chosen to pay cash and would not have needed an identification card.

The issue is not simply the requirement for an ID card, but the type of IDs allowed. In many cases, photo IDs that individuals have are not allowed. One example in some cases is a student ID from a university. Most of us have driver's licenses. But, elderly folks who don't drive have probably let theirs expire. It is very clear that these laws will prevent legitimate voters from voting. It is not clear that they will prohibit illegitimate voters from voting since that is not a demonstrated problem. How many people are you willing to deprive of their constitutional rights in order to combat a non-existant problem simply because you recently purchased shorts?

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everyone can get a passport at the post office[/quote]

If tomorrow Obama free money to all that get a passport or voter id card, everyone would get one. Those people that can't take the time to get proper ID don't' value their right to vote.[/quote]

Bullshit!!  I am so offended by this line of reasoning.  This is where a complete lack of understanding is apparent. My dad is 92 years old with a 6th grade education.  He is black and was born in his house in rural Virginia. There was no hospital for black people.  The only record of his birth was in a bible that was housed in a church that has long been burned down.

When my dad applied for social security, it was VERY difficult.  Luckily, I am a lawyer and we were able to do it.  My dad does not have a passport.  He was not going to you know - travel in his retirement!  He is typical of many many older people from rural areas.

My dad has NEVER missed an opportunity to vote.  He lived through Jim Crow.  It is incredibly important to him.  Is he less American?  Is it his fault that he was born in his house and he would not be able to get documentation?  Does he now not deserve to vote?
I hate that they keep saying that you need a picture ID to get onto a plane.  No, you don't.  It is more difficult and takes more time, but you don't need one.  A passport?  Really??[/quote]

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