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The logic is getting to ridiculous to even argue with. Please tell me this is a joke! |
Disclaimer: I am a non-swinger, married for 10 years. Question to the religious right and prissy puritans- Did it ever occur to you that your husbands could be f'ing prostitutes and giving you diseases as well? I bet GYNs see married women who think they are in committed relationships come in quite often with diseases. My good friend was (unfortunately) a DC call girl. ALL and I mean ALL of her clients were married men most with families. Not saying it was OK, but many of them confided in her that they were in loveless and sexless marriages. This should be more of a concern to you than swingers because this is very common. Go check out Craigs List, married men are CONSTANTLY looking for discreet affairs. The way some of you shrew's sound in on here, I don't blame them one bit, I'd step out too if I had to wake up to you each and every morning. |
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Please tell me this is tongue-in-cheek! Every man looks at porn-EVERY SINGLE ONE. |
| Condom sex is not even "safe" I have heard of cases where someone knows they have HIV/AIDS and purposely pricks themselves to put blood on the condom in hopes of infecting their partner. I know its far fetched but it happens. |
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To the psychologist-- I have my social work degree- in my abnormal psych class when we learned about sexual paraphilias we were told it was only a problem if it caused problems for the person, their partners, or broke the law.
By these criterion, swinging is not an issue unless the people involved have issues with it. It doesn't sound like any of the posters in the swinging thread are having any deep emotional trauma as a result of their choices, they're not forcing their partners into it, and they're not doing anything illegal. (another non-swinger, albeit one who is involved in an alternative lifestyle that is perhaps even more critically judged.) |
What rock are you people coming out from under? Between you and the athiest against porn... real pieces of work. |
I know it is true. One person I know that is HIV positive said that he considered something like that. |
I do know one person who did it and regretted it horribly. She removed herself completely from many social circles b/c she was so embarrassed, of course the men told everyone. Another who regretted something similar b/c he wanted to advance his political career, and always worried that it would come back to haunt him. |
Not all, but nearly all. There is a difference between a couple of magazines in college, and a 45 year old man with wife and kids bringing that home. It has never come into my house, and I would like to keep it that way. Also, not all men cheat. |
And why do you think that your husband is any less sexual now than in college? Why because he has a wife and kids should he not have a few magazines, what does that have to do with it? He especially needs porn now that he probably is not getting the sex he was getting in college. Your husband looks at porn, you just don't know about it. |
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22:48- then for those people it became an issue and they should seek help to deal with it.
It doesn't make the practice bad for everyone. Personally, most of the things i regret are those that i didn't do. Not things where I weighed the risks, my desires, and made an informed and knowledgeable decision to engage in. |
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My DH, like many older men get less sex because he is older. Physiology.
BTW, we teach our kids to avoid participating in any activity that involves exploitation. Like child labor, porn, diamonds, and so on. We are atheists, and granola. That work for us. |
Agree, just explaining that it is not all post swing bliss. |
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I don't think any action in life is always bliss for all people before, during, and after the choice is made. There are always going to be people who did something and would rather they didn't or who had a really hard time dealing with it after. Be it owning a pet, making a career move, marrying, engaging in certain lifestyle choices, having children, or eating the tuna for dinner instead of the steak. It's life, mistakes will be made both big and small. Certainly some choices are harder to undo and leave more of an impact... But that doesn't make the choice an inherently bad one for everyone. Just unfortunate for the individuals that it does end up being a bad choice for. It does mean people should consider their actions and the potential fallout before doing something that may affect them long term though.
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| can't we all just get along? here's something-why do ducks have flat feet? to put out the fires. why do elephants have flat fee? to put out the flaming ducks. what does that mean??? |