Swinging is morally wrong and SICK!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:pp, you should care STD's can become your problem.

If you don't swing and have a monogomous relationship, you won't get an STD.
If you don't swing and get an STD, the problem is not swinging, but issues with your partner.

Following this logic, SWINGING DOES NOT HARM OR EFFECT YOU if you choose not to participate in the lifestyle.

So again, why judge others? Why tell them what choices they should make? What gives us to right to decide what is moral for others?

(btw, I am not a swinger. but would hate to deny others the right to get their freak on if it is something they willingly choose.)

[Anonymous]

Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

another person with some sense

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

How do you know what their behavior involves? Have you been in the bedroom with these folks? Seriously. Glad to know you believe its not worth it to criticize them. But you did just that. So please don't be surprised if *they* criticize your judgement. (I am not a swinger, lest you misread my response as overly aggressive, and therefore indicative of my immoral behavior!!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't swing, but I don't care what ANYONE does in bed as long as it's legal and consensual.

I cannot understand why in the heck anyone even cares. I don't care about other people's sexual preferences. However, just like the PP, I find the swinging post completely fascinating.

BTW, everyone has different wedding vows, not everyone gets married under religious law. NEWSBREAK, some people just have civil ceremonies. Your interpretation is a religious one and that's great for you, but please change your panties before bed, because they are apparently all in a wet wad.

LMAO!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

How do you know what their behavior involves? Have you been in the bedroom with these folks? Seriously. Glad to know you believe its not worth it to criticize them. But you did just that. So please don't be surprised if *they* criticize your judgement. (I am not a swinger, lest you misread my response as overly aggressive, and therefore indicative of my immoral behavior!!)

I'm a psychologist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is not a thing wrong with OP's values.

Other than being a judgmental misery trying to inflict her puritanism on everyone else.
I have no interest in swinging but can't understand why it is anyone's business but those indulging in it.
Every marriage is different and I don't know what gives some people the right to judge an activity that poses no harm to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

How do you know what their behavior involves? Have you been in the bedroom with these folks? Seriously. Glad to know you believe its not worth it to criticize them. But you did just that. So please don't be surprised if *they* criticize your judgement. (I am not a swinger, lest you misread my response as overly aggressive, and therefore indicative of my immoral behavior!!)

I'm a psychologist.

You are either a liar or a very very bad psychologist!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

How do you know what their behavior involves? Have you been in the bedroom with these folks? Seriously. Glad to know you believe its not worth it to criticize them. But you did just that. So please don't be surprised if *they* criticize your judgement. (I am not a swinger, lest you misread my response as overly aggressive, and therefore indicative of my immoral behavior!!)

I'm a psychologist.

I am a clinical psychologist as well. And I have yet to be invited into the bedroom of any of my clients! I have to say I help more people with dysfunctional monogomous relationships than anything else. And yes, there sexual addiction, paraphranelia, unhealthy practices, and damaging behavior among married couples as well. The truth is, there if often just as much variation within groups than between groups.

[Anonymous]

I don't see why religion has to come into judging something so bizarre. Promiscuity is dangerous, we know. And yes, we all eventually pay. Try being single in your late 30's trying to find a man without some yucky disease to treat you to. Thank goodness there are some nice decent men out there, but it gets tough.

HPV, HSV, gonorrhea, syphilis, HIV, and hepatitis are passed from mother to child. Gonorrhea causes infertility. HIV kills. HSV and hepatitis causes cancer. The diseases can be transmitted to people not involved in that lifestyle, like the unborn child, the health care worker, the blood transfusion recipient, and the unsuspecting future partners.

What is wrong with monogamy? When I had my kids with DH I assumed that he would be home to our house every night. I assume that our kids and I were his main concern. If he were preoccupied with other women or children, he would be less of a father and husband. That has not a thing to do with Jesus. It is just practical. And really, I think that most women want it that way. That risk taking is just that, risky.

One of my best friend's sister died of AIDS in 1996 which she contracted from a college student who was with MANY other women. He passed HIV onto at least 5 women before he died. The strange thing is that he did it intentionally, always telling his girlfriends that he was very cautious, and concerned about getting diseases. He turned the table and made them feel safe, believing that he was never promiscuous. All the while at sex clubs in town. Her illness costs the system tons of money. Not to mention the emotional burden on her family. She never got her dream job as a computer programmer. It was her third sex partner.

I am an atheist that finds swinging dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.


I am not a psychologist, but I think YOUR aggressive post is misdirected sexual energy. Maybe you should get LAID ONCE IN A WHILE!@!!! Or masturbate!!!! Or maybe THAT's immoral too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't see why religion has to come into judging something so bizarre. Promiscuity is dangerous, we know. And yes, we all eventually pay. Try being single in your late 30's trying to find a man without some yucky disease to treat you to. Thank goodness there are some nice decent men out there, but it gets tough.

HPV, HSV, gonorrhea, syphilis, HIV, and hepatitis are passed from mother to child. Gonorrhea causes infertility. HIV kills. HSV and hepatitis causes cancer. The diseases can be transmitted to people not involved in that lifestyle, like the unborn child, the health care worker, the blood transfusion recipient, and the unsuspecting future partners.

What is wrong with monogamy? When I had my kids with DH I assumed that he would be home to our house every night. I assume that our kids and I were his main concern. If he were preoccupied with other women or children, he would be less of a father and husband. That has not a thing to do with Jesus. It is just practical. And really, I think that most women want it that way. That risk taking is just that, risky.

One of my best friend's sister died of AIDS in 1996 which she contracted from a college student who was with MANY other women. He passed HIV onto at least 5 women before he died. The strange thing is that he did it intentionally, always telling his girlfriends that he was very cautious, and concerned about getting diseases. He turned the table and made them feel safe, believing that he was never promiscuous. All the while at sex clubs in town. Her illness costs the system tons of money. Not to mention the emotional burden on her family. She never got her dream job as a computer programmer. It was her third sex partner.

I am an atheist that finds swinging dumb.

Hm....your friend's sister died from engaging in presumably monogamous sex with her partner. So...by your argument, unprotected sex is dumb. With anyone. Hell, your husband could be cheating on you with some whore and give you AIDS. So..no one is safe.
Abstinence for all!

[Anonymous]

pp, I hope you're not assuming that all swingers are responsible adults who always use protection. Also, I don't know everything about what my DH does, but I think that I am taking less of a chance than I would be with a sex maniac...even the responsible kind who uses a condom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please. OF COURSE it's sick. Much of the behavior involved is paraphilia-related. A milder way of saying it is a sexual addiction. It's not a coincidence that the people who are apparently involved are so aggressive (anonymously) in defending their behavior. By criticizing them, you are threatening everything they are obsessed with - everything important in their worlds.

It's not worth it. Half of the posts are jokes - probably many others are written by the same people. Just ignore it if it upsets you. Be thankful you don't have these issues.

How do you know what their behavior involves? Have you been in the bedroom with these folks? Seriously. Glad to know you believe its not worth it to criticize them. But you did just that. So please don't be surprised if *they* criticize your judgement. (I am not a swinger, lest you misread my response as overly aggressive, and therefore indicative of my immoral behavior!!)

I'm a psychologist.

So the F what. Like most psychologists you probably went into the field trying to figure all your own neurosis or why your mom and dad were so imbalanced. I've never met a psychologist who was not a few cards short of a full deck.

Most people defending swingers are non-swingers. Apparently you slept through your critical reading classes in college. There are VERY few actual swingers posting and those defending people's personal choices are the monogamous "vanilla" set. I am another non-swinger who passes no judgment on what people do with their sex life. I think the people who are not bothered by it are secure in who they are, secure in their relationships, and clearly do not feel threatened by other people's sexual preferences. There are some intensely insecure people posting here, because a swinger threatens everything they cling to. They probably are the same people who cannot trust their husbands and get bent out of shape if they find a Penthouse magazine under their husbands side of the bed.

To the poster who said STDs would be my problem. Why would that be my problem, I've had sex with the same disease free person for the last 10 years?

[Anonymous]

pp, the Penthouse would be a problem. Pornography spells exploitation. Why would DH read that if he wouldn't want dd working as a porn star?
Atheist again.