How soon before liberals ban Christmas?

[Anonymous]

Are you kidding OP? JESUS would've banned Christmas.

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Anonymous wrote:.....and Christians should note the effectiveness of Muslim beheadings in censoring liberals.

What does that even mean? Somebody's been reading the scribblings on his bedroom walls again.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously, OP, is there a new move to ban Christmas that you fear has growing support, or are you trying to start a discussion about church and state, or just trying to start a fight?

The OP is one of those hyper partisan mindless Republicans who is better at screaming than dealing with real issues. Fortunately, not all Republicans are like that, but many are. Now, the right wing talking idiots, such as Rep Bachman, are spreading the story that Obama will be spending $200 Million a day (for a total of $2B) on his trip to India, a country with which, following Bush's lead with the nuclear pact, Obama is trying to strengthen ties for economic and international policitical reasons. This story is apparently based on some quote from some unnamed official in rural India that no one can locate. The war is Afghanistan costs considerably less than $200M a day, so the number is silly on its face. But these idiots started screaming WITHOUT checking their facts. How mindless? As for the OP, Democrats are strong believers in the First Amendment and its separation of church and state, so I am not sure how that leads to banning Christmas under any theory. The more subtle issue (which the OP is incapable of seeing) is whether is it okay for a Christmas scene to be placed at both a local federal courthouse and a local church?? That First Amendment wall PROHIBITS the Federal government from outlawing Christmas scenes on local church property or on other private property. It also PROHIBITS the govt from outlawing the celebration, etc, of Christmas or any other religious holiday. This means that, with few exceptions, the govt can't interfere in the religious sphere. That SAME WALL, however, limits the situations in which religious activities, such as the placement of a Christmas scene, can take place on state or govt property. By working both ways, the wall ensures that the govt does NOT interfere with the private exercise of religion, which is what govts in Russia, Middle East, etc, have done for decades. [In Russia, for example, the Soviets confiscated churches and outlawed religion. That could NOT happen in the US. In many countries, the govt outlaws the practice of certain religions, regardless of whether that practice occurs on public or private property.] But the wall also ensures the religious activities are kept separate from govt activities. This actually protects religion. It also discourages the govt from being biased in favor of one form of religion over another, whether that form be the pseudo Christianity practiced by the right or mainstream Christianity, etc. These pseudo Christians consistently argue for the protection of private property while also arguing that religious (particularly Christian ones) activities is permitted on public property, whether that be schools or local courthouses. No one is arguing, suggesting, implying, etc, that these pseudo Christians can't practice on private property, whether that be a home or a church.

God, what a pretentious bore!

why? Because he/she is right?

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Anonymous wrote:God, what a pretentious bore!

why? Because he/she is right?

No, because the "boring" post was a serious discussion of the issue rather than another one of the petulant ad hominem rants that are favored by several of our colleagues. [Note: this is a new poster chiming in, not one of those involved in the above dispute.]

Perhaps there ought to be two political forums, one for when we are in the mood for constructive exploration of political ideas and the other for when we feel like ranting at the stupidity of the fools on the other side. We could call them Pensive Politics and Pissmatch Politics.

BTW, why does "forums" sound so much better than "fora", but "datums" sounds really dumb?

[Anonymous]

Okay, so I read through so many of the rants from the previous posters. But I don't think this is such an absurd question from the OP. Technically, Christmas is a religious holiday. And is it not true that liberals believe in separation of church and state? So maybe there wouldn't necessarily be a ban on Christmas. But I wouldn't be surprised if decades down the road, workers wouldn't always get Dec. 25th off. Maybe at the most, it would no longer be considered a federal holiday and we would have to work that day. But again, I doubt it would be a full out "ban."

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Anonymous wrote:.....and Christians should note the effectiveness of Muslim beheadings in censoring liberals.

What does that even mean? Somebody's been reading the scribblings on his bedroom walls again.

It means that when liberals are scared...like right after 911...they realize and accept that they are cowards at the very core and they look for someone to protect them. They also keep their yaps shut until they feel safe enough to start whining and complaining about waterboarding, or phantom warming, or gay marriage. Watch...if a city anywhere in the world gets nuked, they will shut their yaps....it will be very quiet, they will totally forget about phantom warming for exactly how long it takes for the conservative soldiers, cia operatives, to make them feel safe and cozy enough to bitch, moan, complain....get back to normal using precious resources and producing fecal matter.

[Anonymous]

The original question shows that the poster does not understand the true meaning and power of Christmas. Read John 3:16.

[Anonymous]

God loves all sinners...its just than lights has come into the world...moaners,complainers, cowards,flag burners,abortionists hate the light and love the darkness...lest their evil deeds be exposed.

[Anonymous]

Yom Kippur is as sacred to religious Jews as Christmas to Christians. It is not a national holiday, it is observed with a seriousness that does not involve running around shopping, and probably serves as a good example of what the Pope would like Christmas to be. It should be the religious right lobbying to get Christmas back in the churches and out of the public sphere.

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Anonymous wrote:.....and Christians should note the effectiveness of Muslim beheadings in censoring liberals.

What does that even mean? Somebody's been reading the scribblings on his bedroom walls again.

It means that when liberals are scared...like right after 911...they realize and accept that they are cowards at the very core and they look for someone to protect them. They also keep their yaps shut until they feel safe enough to start whining and complaining about waterboarding, or phantom warming, or gay marriage. Watch...if a city anywhere in the world gets nuked, they will shut their yaps....it will be very quiet, they will totally forget about phantom warming for exactly how long it takes for the conservative soldiers, cia operatives, to make them feel safe and cozy enough to bitch, moan, complain....get back to normal using precious resources and producing fecal matter.

Psych studies confirm that it is conservatives who have outsized fear response. That is why they react so strongly to people and situations different from their own. You can google those results easily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.....and Christians should note the effectiveness of Muslim beheadings in censoring liberals.

What does that even mean? Somebody's been reading the scribblings on his bedroom walls again.

It means that when liberals are scared...like right after 911...they realize and accept that they are cowards at the very core and they look for someone to protect them. They also keep their yaps shut until they feel safe enough to start whining and complaining about waterboarding, or phantom warming, or gay marriage. Watch...if a city anywhere in the world gets nuked, they will shut their yaps....it will be very quiet, they will totally forget about phantom warming for exactly how long it takes for the conservative soldiers, cia operatives, to make them feel safe and cozy enough to bitch, moan, complain....get back to normal using precious resources and producing fecal matter.

Psych studies confirm that it is conservatives who have outsized fear response. That is why they react so strongly to people and situations different from their own. You can google those results easily.

People who are in the psych field are very liberal....do you really think they are going to admit in any "'study" that liberals are inferior? If there was a war between the Michigan Militia and The American Psychology Association i think we all know what would happen

[Anonymous]

Don't engage with Cuckoo Ellipses! Not worth it!

[Anonymous]

Studies show that liberals are not afraid to lose their freedom. They are more open to experiencing repression and tyranny than reactionary conservatives,

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Anonymous wrote:Studies show that liberals are not afraid to lose their freedom. They are more open to experiencing repression and tyranny than reactionary conservatives,

Point me to one. That is a lie.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:.....and Christians should note the effectiveness of Muslim beheadings in censoring liberals.

What does that even mean? Somebody's been reading the scribblings on his bedroom walls again.

It means that when liberals are scared...like right after 911...they realize and accept that they are cowards at the very core and they look for someone to protect them. They also keep their yaps shut until they feel safe enough to start whining and complaining about waterboarding, or phantom warming, or gay marriage. Watch...if a city anywhere in the world gets nuked, they will shut their yaps....it will be very quiet, they will totally forget about phantom warming for exactly how long it takes for the conservative soldiers, cia operatives, to make them feel safe and cozy enough to bitch, moan, complain....get back to normal using precious resources and producing fecal matter.

Psych studies confirm that it is conservatives who have outsized fear response. That is why they react so strongly to people and situations different from their own. You can google those results easily.

People who are in the psych field are very liberal....do you really think they are going to admit in any "'study" that liberals are inferior? If there was a war between the Michigan Militia and The American Psychology Association i think we all know what would happen

It's not the judgment of liberal psychologists. It's actual brain scans. But I can see how you might fear psychologists. They have probably been giving you bad news for years now.