Does your team have trouble keeping B meet partners (NVSL)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Join a league for b meets

We tried for years to join a B meet league but they are kind of set and don't ask for new teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Join a league for b meets

We tried for years to join a B meet league but they are kind of set and don't ask for new teams.

OP — Are you a small team where most kids swim A meets anyway? (Sorry if you already stated this.) My thoughts are, if this is the case, 3 B meets versus other teams and 1 intrasquad meet would be perfectly sufficient for your swimmers. But if there are swimmers who never swim A meets, I see the concern. Making fun, A-meet-similar intrasquad meets might be your best short term option.

[Anonymous]

The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

If you are talking OKM there B meets are incredibly fast even against other larger teams. They can swim 400 kids and be done at 9. Preseed is huge.

But agree you cannot stop for DQs. You have to keep going.

[Anonymous]

Our B meets are now preseeded and it has helped speed things along and make the swims more competitive for the swimmers (swimming against properly seeded heats). But our B meets are still incredibly slow and it is the timers and chief timers. Waiting for the timers to be cleared every heat is so slow. Or at least for our team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

I’m the person who talked about pre-seeding and I am also the one who talked about using 6 S&T judges and chief judges. We are not who you mention because we go FAST. Our B meet league teams use the same protocols (at least when we do B meets together anyway). These teams are Orange Hunt, South Run, Old Keene Mill, and Walden Glen (among others).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

Our B meet league tries to do this. Sideburn Run does a good job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

If you are talking OKM there B meets are incredibly fast even against other larger teams. They can swim 400 kids and be done at 9. Preseed is huge.

But agree you cannot stop for DQs. You have to keep going.

Agree, Old Keene Mill runs a fast meet, but they have like 40 officials on deck so the meet only stops if there is vomit in the pool or a thunderstorm. We were at a B meet with them and a thunderstorm was 15 minutes away. We were on backstroke and we got through the end of fly. Their starter and referee are no joke!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

If you are talking OKM there B meets are incredibly fast even against other larger teams. They can swim 400 kids and be done at 9. Preseed is huge.

But agree you cannot stop for DQs. You have to keep going.

Agree, Old Keene Mill runs a fast meet, but they have like 40 officials on deck so the meet only stops if there is vomit in the pool or a thunderstorm. We were at a B meet with them and a thunderstorm was 15 minutes away. We were on backstroke and we got through the end of fly. Their starter and referee are no joke!

How do they clear their timers? Or do they not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

If you are talking OKM there B meets are incredibly fast even against other larger teams. They can swim 400 kids and be done at 9. Preseed is huge.

But agree you cannot stop for DQs. You have to keep going.

Agree, Old Keene Mill runs a fast meet, but they have like 40 officials on deck so the meet only stops if there is vomit in the pool or a thunderstorm. We were at a B meet with them and a thunderstorm was 15 minutes away. We were on backstroke and we got through the end of fly. Their starter and referee are no joke!

How do they clear their timers? Or do they not?

The same two head timers work every meet and have been doing it together for 10 years. There are also standby timers. It’s PVS meet fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pre-see vs. not pre-seed is such a funny argument to me. There is a team on here that constantly talks about how fast their meets move with pre-seeded heats. I can almost guarantee I know who they are and their meets are SO SLOW! It's not the heats holding them back but their announcer/officials who move at a snail speed.

If you are talking OKM there B meets are incredibly fast even against other larger teams. They can swim 400 kids and be done at 9. Preseed is huge.

But agree you cannot stop for DQs. You have to keep going.

Agree, Old Keene Mill runs a fast meet, but they have like 40 officials on deck so the meet only stops if there is vomit in the pool or a thunderstorm. We were at a B meet with them and a thunderstorm was 15 minutes away. We were on backstroke and we got through the end of fly. Their starter and referee are no joke!

How do they clear their timers? Or do they not?

The same two head timers work every meet and have been doing it together for 10 years. There are also standby timers. It’s PVS meet fast.

Our ref is great, but runs it way to much like an A meet instead of looking to run it more like a club meet.

[Anonymous]

Most teams can't get 40 volunteers on deck for a B meet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most teams can't get 40 volunteers on deck for a B meet.

B meets are difficult to get volunteers but I think if they ran faster you would have better luck.

[Anonymous]

There are several teams out there that are known to be not great B meet partners. Sometimes it is just because the team is so large. There are other teams that are just not welcoming or don't have a culture of treating a visiting team like a guest that is welcomed. This gives little incentive to keep them as partners.

[Anonymous]

Here is what I could gather on B Meet leagues for teams that are also in NVSL. There may be errors, but I thought this board could both correct the errors and thought it would be helpful to OP:

Springfield Burke Developmental League
South Run
Orange Hunt
Fox Hunt
Springboard
Rolling Hills
Rolling Forest
Cottontail
Ravensworth
Walden Glen
Hunt Valley
Crosspointe
Fairfax Station
Newington Forest
Old Keene Mill
Laurel Hill
Daventry
Village West

Woodson Developmental League
Long Branch
Truro
Ilda
Canterbury Woods
Fair Oaks

Western Fairfax Developmental League
Sully Station
Brookfield
Greenbriar
Little Rocky Run
Poplar Tree
Oakton
Pleasant Valley
Virginia Run

Fairfax Area Swim Team (FAST) Developmental League
Fairfax Club Estates
Sideburn Run
Lakeview
Sully Station II
Kings Ridge

Fairfax Developmental League
Villa Aquatic
Mosby Woods
Country Club Hills
Mantua

McLean Developmental League
Hamlet
Donaldson Run
High Point Pool
Chesterbrook
Shouse Village
McLean
Langley
Overlee
Kent Gardens
Great Falls
Poplar Heights

B Meet League (unnamed)
Woodley
Camelot
Holmes Run
Parliament
Lake Braddock
Burke Station

Vienna Developmental League
Hunter Mill
Vienna Woods
Lakevale
Vienna Aquatic Club
Cardinal Hill