FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

This! Read the information yourself. Don't rely on DCUM. I understood that a placement for IB or AP does not require a sit out, but read it yourself.

Oakton to Chantilly is AP to AP. The only way they could pupil place is for the specialized STEM Academy programs at Chantilly and then their daughter would have to take those classes in order to stay at Chantilly.

You can pupil place based on siblings attending. Oldest would be grandfathered in at Chantilly.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

This! Read the information yourself. Don't rely on DCUM. I understood that a placement for IB or AP does not require a sit out, but read it yourself.

Oakton to Chantilly is AP to AP. The only way they could pupil place is for the specialized STEM Academy programs at Chantilly and then their daughter would have to take those classes in order to stay at Chantilly.

You can pupil place based on siblings attending. Oldest would be grandfathered in at Chantilly.

If there is space at the school, if there isn’t it can be turned down. Pupil placing for the Academy is probably a better bet since you can argue that there are unique educational opportunities available and Chantilly has been accepting kids for the academy even though it is over crodwed.

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Anonymous wrote:We are not at risk of moving to Skyview. But we are at risk of being moved out of Chantilly HS because it’s in 2/3 of the scenarios. This worries me as my oldest will be a senior and grandfathered in. If I pupil place my youngest at Chantilly, they would not be eligible for any VHSL activities for an entire year. This puts them at a great disadvantage. It would also be a huge burden to our family to have siblings at two different schools. What do we do??

How is it a burden to have kids at different schools for one year? They take the bus or walk to school. Regardless of the school. It is one year where you might have to go to some events at two schools. A pain in the butt, sure. A huge burden? Not really.

And your youngest can’t play sports or any other activity that VHSL runs, like theatre. Are you going to punish your youngest so you don’t have to split time between schools for a year? What joint activities are there? You can send one parent to one open house and another parents to the other. Hopefully there isn’t a lot of overlap between events.

I happen to know for a fact there is. And my husband cannot attend daytime events as he works so sending one parent to one event and another to the other doesn’t always work. We are a Chantilly family. The commute to Oakton would be a huge burden on our family. Having kids at two different high schools won’t work.

Moving kids from Chantilly to Oakton is stupid, I don’t think anyone disagrees with that. You will have one year where you might have to decide what event to go to. I wonder how often you actually have to go to school during the day, we have an 8th grader and I have been to the MS for one event after school. I can’t imagine that I am going to be going to the HS for many events during the day. After school events, probably some but not that many, sports events if he makes the team.

I would be miffed that they are moving my kid that distance away because they are violating one of the basic factors that they had in the process, decreasing commute times. I doubt that they are going to move your kids school to Oakton because it is too ludicrous. If they do, then you have to decide to deal with two kids at two schools for a year or to sacrifice your youngest opportunities freshman year. And yes, it would suck to be in that position.

I am assuming that your ES has written all the school board reps and Dr. Reid to complain about this?

Thank you. I appreciate that. And no, it seems the communities are divided. There are some that wouldn’t mind moving to Oakton because they see it as a better school. And Navy is a split feeder to begin with. The majority end up at Oakton. A few communities end up at Chantilly.

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Anonymous wrote:We are not at risk of moving to Skyview. But we are at risk of being moved out of Chantilly HS because it’s in 2/3 of the scenarios. This worries me as my oldest will be a senior and grandfathered in. If I pupil place my youngest at Chantilly, they would not be eligible for any VHSL activities for an entire year. This puts them at a great disadvantage. It would also be a huge burden to our family to have siblings at two different schools. What do we do??

How is it a burden to have kids at different schools for one year? They take the bus or walk to school. Regardless of the school. It is one year where you might have to go to some events at two schools. A pain in the butt, sure. A huge burden? Not really.

And your youngest can’t play sports or any other activity that VHSL runs, like theatre. Are you going to punish your youngest so you don’t have to split time between schools for a year? What joint activities are there? You can send one parent to one open house and another parents to the other. Hopefully there isn’t a lot of overlap between events.

Some people happen to be single parents. Wake up.

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Anonymous wrote:We are not at risk of moving to Skyview. But we are at risk of being moved out of Chantilly HS because it’s in 2/3 of the scenarios. This worries me as my oldest will be a senior and grandfathered in. If I pupil place my youngest at Chantilly, they would not be eligible for any VHSL activities for an entire year. This puts them at a great disadvantage. It would also be a huge burden to our family to have siblings at two different schools. What do we do??

How is it a burden to have kids at different schools for one year? They take the bus or walk to school. Regardless of the school. It is one year where you might have to go to some events at two schools. A pain in the butt, sure. A huge burden? Not really.

And your youngest can’t play sports or any other activity that VHSL runs, like theatre. Are you going to punish your youngest so you don’t have to split time between schools for a year? What joint activities are there? You can send one parent to one open house and another parents to the other. Hopefully there isn’t a lot of overlap between events.

Some people happen to be single parents. Wake up.

Read the information for yourself. There is only one theater activity that the child could not participate in. Most school clubs and activities are not VHSL sponsored. Sports and some other activities that involve competition fall under VHSL.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I just found out if you pupil place your child at the high school when the boundary changes take place (like you may if an older sibling already goes there and is grandfathered), they wouldn't be allowed to participate in any VHSL activities for one year. This is horrible for rising freshman who want to stay at the same school as an older sibling for the year 2027-2028 which is when the boundary changes take place.

There is a workaround process. There is a form, they just want to ensure transfers aren’t happening just to get kids on better teams or whatever. This will not impact typical athletes transferring from IB to AP schools for example.

New rules passed this year that prevent that. If you are attending a public school that is not your base school, you sit a year. Private school kids moving into public school for HS have to attend the base school associated with their address and not pupil place to a different school or they sit. Kids transfering for IB or AP will sit out a year. The exceptions are places like TJ.

So yes, a kid who is affected by the boundary change needs to attend the new school or sit a year. People are calling it the Hayfield rule.

Again, interested posters should read the FCPS materials linked to above. You are posting misinformation.

DP. I need a TLDR or layman explanation of the materials. This all sounds nuts.
I have a rising 10th grader who for now wants to stay at our base school. We are likely to be zoned to Skyview, which is fine, but would this mean that in order to stay at the base school for 27-28 we would have to “transfer” to the base school and then be ineligible for sports at the school attended and played sports at for the first 2 years of high school?
We need this cleared up.

I believe, and I could be wrong about this, that the initial phasing will be freshman in 27-28 and not moving Juniors and Seniors. Next year they will be starting with a full freshman and sophomore class, or pretty close to full. They are not going to be moving in kids for those classes because there will not be room. They will be adding the freshman class, the rising 9th graders.

This shouldn’t be like the boundary moves because there are not people moving out or spaces for older kids moving them in due to under enrollment. But I could be wrong.

There is no suggestion whatsoever that they are starting out pretty close to full. Last report was that they'd be at about 80% of the planned 1000-student capacity for 2026-27, and that was based on opening up Skyview to students across the entire county.

The last count that I heard, they are at 450 for the 9th grade class, that is 50 shy of what they were looking for. The 10th grade class is smaller and no one is surprised by that. If the 450 is accurate, they have 250 kids in the 10th grade. They are not going to move 11th graders in 27-28, not 10th graders because there isn’t space in that class, and add the freshman class.

To be accurate they wanted 500 freshman from five pyramids, not 450 from across the entire county. It would be good to know where the freshmen are coming from to know if they are relieving the schools that were most overcrowded.

They had 400 freshman from the 5 pyramids. Given that they were allowing kids to opt in, so there are families that probably never even looked at the emails to make a choice, and that there are no sports at Skyview, I am impressed that they got 400 kids from the 5 pyramids.

So you say, and perhaps it's even true. But the lack of transparency is a problem, and they did not achieve their initial goal, which was to find 1000 students from the five pyramids to launch Skyview.

Without knowing where kids are pupil placing from, it's hard to assess the effects of their opt-in model. The school that is most overcrowded may see limited relief. The school with the highest FARMS rate could lose the most high-performing kids. The way they are going about opening Skyview is anything but impressive or thoughtful. The only consideration appears to have been that, if Skyview couldn't offer sports this fall, they shouldn't force anyone living within the new boundaries to go there yet.

It doesn’t matter, they are setting boundaries for every year after next year. That is the point of this process.

[Anonymous]

Reid should be fired. She has made a complete mess of this.