*without "hurt" |
| Honestly your examples make you look hypersensitive, OP. I’ve had to deal with a 60-something, non-demented parent who called me fat, who said my toddler daughter was fat, and told me I’d ruined my life by marrying my husband… this is what intentional cruelty looks like. |
This is OP. Thank you for your thoughtful responses. It may be selfish but I don’t want to deal with his complex psychological issues. I am already trying to tell him as little as possible about me or my kids, so that’s a step. Now I need to stop paying attention to all the tales of someone’s daughters or sons. Ugh there’s fewer and fewer things I can talk to him about. |
Yeah except they aren’t so cute |
I think my problem is that I take Dad’s words too seriously -OP |
Thank you, this helps a lot. My mother used to say that too, but it was much clearer with her in my mind that I don’t owe it to her. But my dad was the nice guy, so it’s not so clear. Someone mentioned his track record of being nice. Now that I think of it, him being nice was mostly not doing all the bad things my mother did. It was some image that I had of him. However, I am not trying to decide if he was indeed a nice guy or just someone who didn’t have an opinion on anything and wanted to stay out of things. Not sure it makes sense but writing here and discussing it helps me process things. -OP |
Yes, what you mention sounds horrible. My mother was pretty cruel in a lot of what she said but with her it was clear for me that “she is bad, I am good, she should be thankful I even talk to her still”. With my dad it’s not so clear. I am still trying to process my family history and understand what his role was and if he indeed was/is the good guy (it’s all triggered by my mother’s fairly recent death). It feels like I don’t really know my dad that well, he was always in my mother’s shadow (at least since I moved out as a college student) and I didn’t have a chance to form an opinion on him. I am getting to know him now and unfortunately I don’t like most of what I see
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Yes I’m already trying to limit what he knows about me but I slip up sometimes or there all these bragging friends of his. I guess it’s work in progress. I think I don’t like the fact that as I hang out with him, my opinion of him is getting less and less positive? I understand it’s old age and all but I can’t change the overall feeling about it. |
Okay thank you! Appreciate your opinion |
Yes I know he judges some of my parenting and it’s ok with me. I guess I just want him to keep it to himself. I don’t know if you say anything to your daughter about her parenting, but I think she would be hurt if you did even if she didn’t show it. At least about the snacks issue you mentioned. I think there’s just no way for a parent to say anything about their adult child’s parenting without hurting them at least a little, tbh. They’ve learned everything they thought they needed to learn about parenting by now, and if they aren’t doing it the way that would get approval from you is that either they disagree, or their child is different. But I digress. Yes I am trying to understand if he is just blurting it out or he is trying to hint at something. This is the whole point. |
I don't think it's appropriate to criticize someone's parenting related to what kids eat or how they dress. Unless there are obvious health problems, we all eat some sugar/snacks sometimes and nobody cares! I always hated my mom commenting on how I dress since I was a teen -- she's overweight and was projecting, so every clothing item had some problems, especially skinny pants or anything that showed some body shape! Who cares if a teen wears ripped pants or shoes that have laces that you don't have to lace... I have often wondered if parents/grandparents don't themselves realize how stupid they sound judging fashion trends. A lot of old folks make it their mission to only "communicate" through judging and negative comments. You can have your different opinions, but learn to keep them to yourself, nobody wants to listen to you literally not liking anything and being out-of-date with current trends! |
DP. Do you think it’s ok if I tell DS I like his outfits? Or there should be no comments at all? My parents used to buy me ridiculous outfits but they also never commented on my fashion choices. Idk if teens want no comments or only positive ones or what. Some of his choices are, well, risky imho and I try to gently tell him that. Like he can buy and wear a woman’s suit jacket. |
It's my daughter who struggles with weight and is now doing the same thing to her toddlers who is "out-of-date" with the damage that sugar causes. Of course everyone eats treats. That's not the issue. All of you who say that grandparents should never comment on parenting sure like to comment on your own parents' lives, conduct, etc. Hint: that's what family members do. If I love my grandkids, I can say something, which she is free to ignore. |
Of course you can say you like his outfits! I think all of us like positive comments and that others notice you. Kind of when you go to your office in a new outfit and people mention something they like about it -- it's pleasant! If you don't like some of his outfits, you can compliment something that you do like -- perhaps color combination he chose or different clothing items he matched! Teens are about experimenting. I wore mens suit jackets (my dad's old ones!) when I was a teen and my mom got a "heart attack" every time over it! It absolutely didn't convince me otherwise. In fact the more it irritated her, the more I liked an outfit, it was like a challenge! Then a few years passed and once she could fit into my stuff, she suddenly started wearing my shirts from my closet when I was away at college (yes, without asking)! Needless to say, I have never taken my mom's advice on how to dress. My own teens do ask advice sometimes and I keep my comments pleasant. I personally don't like current baggy trend on boys, but then you know what, I'm not wearing it and I do have to admit it's comfortable! |
I never understood and actually really dislike this view of "if I love someone, I'm free to critique them 24/7". Has your critiquing helped your daughter lose weight? Or maybe every time you talk about it (again) she goes and stress-eats a gallon of ice-cream? It's not up to you what your grandkids eat, you're not in charge -- your daughter is! Maybe look at your own parenting if your daughter has issues with her weight -- why didn't you teach her proper eating habits?! |